First Journal

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

I have another quote from this "pamphlet" written by the hydro guy. "Nutrient lockout is an accurate discription of the problems caused by over watering, not from the pH being out of range."

Makes a lot of sense to me.

I have read all the stickies, and much, much more. I have asked questions and argued with some folks, and I have thought deeply about this -- what I am loving is that it is a growing thing, lol, don't think the pun was intended. No one has all the answers. All the answers may be out there, but they have yet to be compiled. I love the adventure of growing, and I don't really mind a failure on ocassion. It's a learning process -- no matter how much you know -- you don't know it all...

Dude first hit this piece :48:

No offense but does your book & pamphlet have eyes?? Can it talk??

Im pretty sure all the peeps here, with eyes + tons of growing experience, see & deal with these issues all the time...

It just baffles me that you continue to think you dont/didnt have a Ph problem.... :holysheep:

If your problem is just from overwatering, then why would you change your procedure on making & storing nutes???

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

Sure shows that there some things going on during the dark period -- dramatic things -- Makes me wonder if I shouldn't change the lights in vedge to 18/6 and give them some down time as well.

You are misinterpreting this. Just because this happened during the dark period does not mean anything. If you had been running veg instead of flowering, whatever caused this still would have happened (still believe it is a combination of pH, nute lockout and nute overload). Do not take this to mean that plants in veg need a dark period--they do not. A 18/6 veg time only causes stretch and does nothing good for the plant. The dark during flower is because the plant needs dark for the flowering hormones.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

I have another quote from this "pamphlet" written by the hydro guy. "Nutrient lockout is an accurate discription of the problems caused by over watering, not from the pH being out of range."

Makes a lot of sense to me.

That is not a true statement and makes me question every other thing he has written. We know for positive that nutes are only uptaken at certain pH levels--this is science--a biological truth that cannot really be disputed. PH does cause nute lockout. I grow hydro, so do not know if overwatering can do it too, but there is no doubt whatsoever that high or low pH causes nute lockout.

 

[HemperFi]

Dude first hit this piece :48:

No offense but does your book & pamphlet have eyes?? Can it talk??

Im pretty sure all the peeps here, with eyes + tons of growing experience, see & deal with these issues all the time...

It just baffles me that you continue to think you dont/didnt have a Ph problem.... :holysheep:

If your problem is just from overwatering, then why would you change your procedure on making & storing nutes???

It's pretty clear that my problem was over nuting the plants -- this may have caused a PH shift, but it was the nutes that damaged my plants. These plants have been in the ground for weeks and weeks -- if I hadf a PH problem ALL my plants would show some kind of dificiencies -- they don't -- all but the one I nuked are fine -- it isn't/wasn't a Ph prob, imo. I won't quote the "pamphlet again. Although, the advice given in it is as good and better than some I have gotten in here.

Peace

 

[HemperFi]

That is not a true statement and makes me question every other thing he has written. We know for positive that nutes are only uptaken at certain pH levels--this is science--a biological truth that cannot really be disputed. PH does cause nute lockout. I grow hydro, so do not know if overwatering can do it too, but there is no doubt whatsoever that high or low pH causes nute lockout.

Damn, the guy is NOT saying that nute lockout doesn't occure. He simply stated that it is usually caused by over watering. He just says that it is more likely than a Ph problem. I WILL put calcium in my next batch of soil, but I am not having Ph problems in any of the other plants, and I don't believe I have general Ph problems now. I over nuted the damn plant.

 

[HemperFi]

You are misinterpreting this. Just because this happened during the dark period does not mean anything. If you had been running veg instead of flowering, whatever caused this still would have happened (still believe it is a combination of pH, nute lockout and nute overload). Do not take this to mean that plants in veg need a dark period--they do not. A 18/6 veg time only causes stretch and does nothing good for the plant. The dark during flower is because the plant needs dark for the flowering hormones.

I believe you Goddess. I'm not misinterpreting -- I'm trying to understand. I KNOW something dramatic went on in that tent when it was dark. It just got me to thinking -- Probably a mistaske -- thinkin

Peace

 

[HemperFi]

liek i said before i dont ph my water, i dont really apply nutes like they should, i give really high amounts, sometimes mixed together with others, my current flowering plants are in prenuted MG soil, i dont even let my water sit anymore. been doing that the last 3 years non stop, breaking alot of rules and not once has my plants ever had a problem from a one time nuting.

on the other hand i got ph issues overnight after watering with melted snow.

i personally think that MG is being locked out of your plants.... just look it up and see what happens when they are "praying for MG"-- type whats in the quotes into google and youll see its not just this board thats going to tell you this.

It tickles me to realize I am not the only person in this room who ocassionally screws up when they water plants. What color was that snow?

I truly resent the implication that they is something fundamental wrong in my garden that I am unaware of, yet you folks all over the country can see it in the pics I put in here. I do not have a "general" Ph problem. I over nuted the plant, and it blew up over night. I'm going to go open the tent right soon, and if all my other plants look like the one yesterday -- well, I will rethink what is going on here. Right now I feel like a target because I have one damaged plant.

Peace

 

[drfting07]

Wish you the best!

 

[HemperFi]

Thanks BB, your two cents are always welcome.

My plants (except the one) are just fine -- no signs of any dificiencies what ever.

I snipped some of the real bad leaves off last night. She looks better today, and I believe I can detect new growth. We will see how she goes....

Think I'll go and Ph my coffee or something...

Peace

 

[Rosebud]

Maybe you should go pee on a stick..lol! It can be so huge the first time something happens and ya don't have a clue, and ya might never have a clue, if you are a control freak like me, that isn't easy to handle... Everyone wants to help and know the right answer for you.
Ok, i am gonna go pee on a stick and I don't know why. Hope i am not preggers at 59 years old.

 

[HemperFi]

lol no yellow snow, but its the astmosphere conditions that made the snow have a really high ph or something, i thought the snow would be better.
i showed you the pictures of the ending battle of that one.

i notice you use lake water sometmes... becareful with that too, check ph first, and hope for no pests/ fungi


your not a target, we are just trying to help. i will stop now about this whole thing.

Hell, I have been a target most of my life Puff, I have learned how to duck and zig zag (mostly zig zag) and I am a survivor -- damaged, but still here kicking. I am open to any thoughts you may have on the subject of growing weed my man -- I believe you know what the heck you are talking about, and I never felt I was being attacked by you. I use lake water exclusively, and I check the Ph every time. I know just how to treat it before I test it, but I do everytime anyway. I like the lake water -- all those ppl growing veges in S. Cal are using it, and I get it before they do

Peace

 

[HemperFi]

Wish you the best!

Thank you drifting -- I needed that....

 

[HemperFi]

Maybe you should go pee on a stick..lol! It can be so huge the first time something happens and ya don't have a clue, and ya might never have a clue, if you are a control freak like me, that isn't easy to handle... Everyone wants to help and know the right answer for you.
Ok, i am gonna go pee on a stick and I don't know why. Hope i am not preggers at 59 years old.

Thanks Rosy, I really needed a laugh

If I found out I had a child on the way I'd abort myself.

 

[HemperFi]

Sorry, sounded a little harsh -- I have all the kids I need in the vedge room. The girls in the tent have been in flower 2 weeks tomorrow. They look good to me.

Peace

 

[HemperFi]

Here is what they look like this evening:

 

[HemperFi]

And the AK-47:

 

[HemperFi]

oops -- thai's the one with the Ph prob. Here is the AK-47:

 

[Sol]

Jeez, i think you have been doing outstanding in this grow, i remember when you cracked the first bean , yours was really the first journal of anyone i actually followed from start till,well now and man you've handled yourself very well. Target nothing. Don't mind my crazy inputs man, i just ramble ideas till i find the right one Hope it never rubbed u the wrong way, we all really want the best for each other. That has been my impression anyway
I'm lookin forward to seeing a fantastic harvest for you bud

 

[HemperFi]

Jeez, i think you have been doing outstanding in this grow, i remember when you cracked the first bean , yours was really the first journal of anyone i actually followed from start till,well now and man you've handled yourself very well. Target nothing. Don't mind my crazy inputs man, i just ramble ideas till i find the right one Hope it never rubbed u the wrong way, we all really want the best for each other. That has been my impression anyway
I'm lookin forward to seeing a fantastic harvest for you bud

I truly appreciate your support Sol. You HAVE been here from the beginning, and I thank you very much. I don't mind you rambling, every little bit helps. And I don't resent anything you have ever said. No, you don't "rub" me the wrong way my friend. I can't wait to show you some very fine nugs. It's going to happen -- it's happening.

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

It's pretty clear that my problem was over nuting the plants -- this may have caused a PH shift, but it was the nutes that damaged my plants. These plants have been in the ground for weeks and weeks -- if I hadf a PH problem ALL my plants would show some kind of dificiencies -- they don't -- all but the one I nuked are fine -- it isn't/wasn't a Ph prob, imo. I won't quote the "pamphlet again. Although, the advice given in it is as good and better than some I have gotten in here.

Peace

If you still think the problem is from over nuting them you have not learned much the last few days... at least 5+ people here who can view pics of your plant gave you their opinions yet you still refer to a book by some unknown weed "GOD"....

Here's my question: If you get better answers from your book then why do you have multiple threads about this lone plant having problems??

IMO if your plants are from seed then every plant is different, even if they are the same strain... Some plants are just effected more then others by nutes, Ph, heat even if they are all the same strain, bc they are all unique individuals...

Take that phamplet, crumble it up & target it into the trash can bc its just skewing your thoughts..... :48: