First Journal

[The Hemp Goddess]

Anyway, I don't believe it was PH. I think I must have put too much of one nute or the other in the water -- and it probably PHed fine, but was deadly -- my bad -- I feel terrible.

You said in a prior post that the pH was 7.5. If it was that high, it could be pH problems. Can you remember how much of each nutrient you put in? It would be nice to know if this was nute related.

 

[Rosebud]

Isn't it a bummer when they look like that? looks like heat to me too. Green mojo to you again Hemper.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

Anyway, I don't believe it was PH. I think I must have put too much of one nute or the other in the water -- and it probably PHed fine, but was deadly -- my bad -- I feel terrible.

You said in a prior post that the pH was 7.5. If it was that high, it could be pH problems. Can you remember how much of each nutrient you put in? It would be nice to know if this was nute overload.

I just cannot believe that this is heat as it happened overnight when the lights were out.

 

[HemperFi]

That was the first thing that went through my mind Roddy, so I sprayed her down and took her out of the light -- then I realized the light had JUST gone on, and it was in the low 70's in the tent all night, so it couldn't be heat stress -- has to be nute burn. I'm PHing some water now and will give her a good 5 gal flush and put her back under the light.

I almost fed the AK-47 with the same nutes last night, but thought she would need it this morning instead -- glad of that -- I just gave her water this time.

 

[Locked]

not nute burn but imo nute lock out

:yeahthat:

When the leaves get all twisted and mangled looking like that it is almost certainly a ph problem. Different then over feeding.

 

[HemperFi]

here are some better pics -- I don't know if it was PH or nutes, but one of them for sure. I'm thinking nutes.

 

[Locked]

I know you are not growing hydro but this kinda applies since you said your ph was 7.5. When it gets too high it causes problems more so then too low.

Give this a read>>>http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58339

 

[HemperFi]

I have read it Hammy -- it is not likely PH -- Nute lock out sounds more like it, but, over night? Has to be nutes.

 

[Locked]

I have read it Hammy -- it is not likely PH -- Nute lock out sounds more like it, but, over night? Has to be nutes.

Well nute lockout is caused by your ph being either too high or too low. When it is high like yours was at 7.5 you also hve to worry about things that link talks about. If your ph was really 7.5 then I wld think that wld hve a lot to do with it. 7 is high in soil....let alone 7.5. Jmo

 

[Roddy]

:yeahthat:

 

[HemperFi]

well, She has been flushed and looks the same so far -- I'll keep you updated. PH in hydro, from my limited understanding, can have some dramatic effects in a short time -- in soil it takes a lot longer for PH to have such a dramatic effect -- I may have put more of one of the three parts of the GH nutes in the mix. Stoned and such.

 

[HemperFi]

I have a device called a "Rapitester" It is a PH meter. I have just used it to test all the plants. The soil in all of them is 7.0 PH.

 

[HemperFi]

According to my research nute lock out can be caused by a few things -- I'm thinking I may have hit her with double of one or another of the GH 3 parts. I don't remember.
The only book I own on growing weed cost me 5 bucks at the hydro store when I bought the CFLs. I got it for half price because I bought the light. The author isn't identified, but says he opened his own Hydro store from profits from his grows. The info in this little book is pretty much the same as you fine folks have been telling me, but he has thisd to say about PH -- "For Ph to actually cause a problem in soil the garden would have to practically be abondened. The water would evaporate long before PH levels could fall far enough outside the acceptable range to be the problem..." He suggests over watering or over nuting.

"The infamouse "it's nutrient lockout caused by your PH" answer is the standard go to responce..."

 

[HemperFi]

Isn't it a bummer when they look like that? looks like heat to me too. Green mojo to you again Hemper.

It truly is RoseBud -- it's a damn shame is what it is... Thank you for your concern, you nice, nice lady.

 

[Locked]

I have a device called a "Rapitester" It is a PH meter. I have just used it to test all the plants. The soil in all of them is 7.0 PH.

I don't trust soil ph testers and I never test the ph of my soil....I only worry about the ph of what goes into my soil. 6.5 and my plants and I are golden. Jmo

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

According to my research nute lock out can be caused by a few things -- I'm thinking I may have hit her with double of one or another of the GH 3 parts. I don't remember.
The only book I own on growing weed cost me 5 bucks at the hydro store when I bought the CFLs. I got it for half price because I bought the light. The author isn't identified, but says he opened his own Hydro store from profits from his grows. The info in this little book is pretty much the same as you fine folks have been telling me, but he has thisd to say about PH -- "For Ph to actually cause a problem in soil the garden would have to practically be abondened. The water would evaporate long before PH levels could fall far enough outside the acceptable range to be the problem..." He suggests over watering or over nuting.

"The infamouse "it's nutrient lockout caused by your PH" answer is the standard go to responce..."

Id def go with the answer from the book written by a dealer/stoner no name author....

 

[Locked]

The author isn't identified, but says he opened his own Hydro store from profits from his grows. The info in this little book is pretty much the same as you fine folks have been telling me, but he has thisd to say about PH -- "For Ph to actually cause a problem in soil the garden would have to practically be abondened. The water would evaporate long before PH levels could fall far enough outside the acceptable range to be the problem..." He suggests over watering or over nuting.

"The infamouse "it's nutrient lockout caused by your PH" answer is the standard go to responce..."

Sounds like this "book" wld make good kindling in the fire place because he is talking dog farts. I grow in soil and I don't " abandon" my grows and hve seen ph problems and ph lockout first hand. But JAAM is right...maybe he is right and all of us stoner/growers are wrong.

 

[Sol]

Aww shoot! I just found out you were having probs. I can't really offer advice but i can hope for the best for you & plants. If you used soil, did you also include worm castings? Because if so , they should have buffered any severe ph imbalance. Its' the only thing i have to offer for advice. I'm going to re-read your journal so i kn ow more.But these guys know way more than i

 

[Sol]

If i read it correctly you are using some MG potting soil with perlite/vermic mixed in. Then you added some bat guano to the soil. There are several types of guano, i think mexican for veg and peruvian sebird for bloom( i believe) . Could you have mixed a bloom guano in my mistake or perhaps the roots ran into a strong pocket of ferts and is reacting??

Im just throwing ideas out, if everyone is sure that its lockout then thats what it is.

 

[bho_expertz]

I also think that the problem is in the water ph. You really need to buy a PH pen. WaterProof. Try Hanna. They have good stuff.

EC pen is good also if you are afraid to overfert.

I thought that Adwa was nice but it is crap.

Good luck