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JustAnotherAntMarching said:
If you still think the problem is from over nuting them you have not learned much the last few days... at least 5+ people here who can view pics of your plant gave you their opinions yet you still refer to a book by some unknown weed "GOD"....

Here's my question: If you get better answers from your book then why do you have multiple threads about this lone plant having problems??

IMO if your plants are from seed then every plant is different, even if they are the same strain... Some plants are just effected more then others by nutes, Ph, heat even if they are all the same strain, bc they are all unique individuals...

Take that phamplet, crumble it up & target it into the trash can bc its just skewing your thoughts..... :48:


You know what ANT -- your opinion is what I will crumble up and toss in the trash.

First of sll -- that plant is a clone. and second, I don't care how many people have looked at a picture of that plant and immediately came to the conclusion that it was a PH problem -- It was NOT a Ph problem -- when someone has a problem you don't start bad mouthing them -- if you can't help, and you can't, then just piss off....

I didn't say the guy who wrote this book was a guru of growing -- I simply quoted something he had written. I have a sick plant. I don't need you coming in here with your superior attitude telling me I haven't learned anything. I have learned plenty pal. But I have NEVER learned a thing from YOU -- I supose you are intittled to your opinion, but stay out of my face with it -- please.

Peace

,....
 
Hamster Lewis said:
A ph of 7.5 will cause all sorts of things to go out of whack....up there you are locked out of a bunch of nutrients.



the charts say that at 7.5 you would be deficient in iron and one other nute -- I really doubt that would cause such a dramatic effect as what happened to my plant.

I do not have a fundamental problem in my garden due to Ph. I slightly resent the insinuation.

As far as the little book goes... nevermind.

The guy is correct that over watering can cause nute block -- roots swell up like your fingers in a hot tub and lose their ability to absorbe nutes.

It isn't always due to Ph.

Enough said.
 
HemperFi said:
the charts say that at 7.5 you would be deficient in iron and one other nute -- I really doubt that would cause such a dramatic effect as what happened to my plant.

I do not have a fundamental problem in my garden due to Ph. I slightly resent the insinuation.

As far as the little book goes... nevermind.

The guy is correct that over watering can cause nute block -- roots swell up like your fingers in a hot tub and lose their ability to absorbe nutes.

It isn't always due to Ph.

Enough said.

Your grow your show....you won't hear another peep from me. Have fun.
 
HemperFi said:
You know what ANT -- your opinion is what I will crumble up and toss in the trash.

First of sll -- that plant is a clone. and second, I don't care how many people have looked at a picture of that plant and immediately came to the conclusion that it was a PH problem -- It was NOT a Ph problem -- when someone has a problem you don't start bad mouthing them -- if you can't help, and you can't, then just piss off....

I didn't say the guy who wrote this book was a guru of growing -- I simply quoted something he had written. I have a sick plant. I don't need you coming in here with your superior attitude telling me I haven't learned anything. I have learned plenty pal. But I have NEVER learned a thing from YOU -- I supose you are intittled to your opinion, but stay out of my face with it -- please.

Peace

,....

:holysheep: good luck brosef....
 
PuffinNugs said:
its a chain reation though, locks out one thing that causes another to not preform right, causeing too much of another which locks out the next ect...

examples... K can get locked up from too much Ca, Too much P can lead to iron deficiency, Mg can get locked-up by too much Ca.

Zinc also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH

I agree with you Puff, I think it probably was a chain reaction, but it was due to me and the nutrients I gave that particular plant when I fed her. It is not a fundamental Ph problem in my grow. If it were, all my plants would be affected. Don't ya think?

I fed two more of them today, and hit them with a little Cha Ching -- they look fine so far.
 
Ola Hemperfi.Question? If your Ph is too high, what is used to bring it down. Or what works. You are doing a great job. The plants look sweet Bro. Don't ya just love this learnin thing :] I think you got this one figured out. Tune in next week to see if the ant farm gets flooded, Hahaha, meanwhile back at the ranch.....Big Injun chief once said, "****"
 
smokster42 said:
Ola Hemperfi.Question? If your Ph is too high, what is used to bring it down. Or what works. You are doing a great job. The plants look sweet Bro. Don't ya just love this learnin thing :] I think you got this one figured out. Tune in next week to see if the ant farm gets flooded, Hahaha, meanwhile back at the ranch.....Big Injun chief once said, "****"

I use General Hydrophonics PH Down, and thank you very much. Yep, this learning thing is great fun. I will be tuned in my friend --turned on and dropped out as well :)
 
I noticed that there are liquids and dry solids for raising and lowering ph. Have you tried the dry or any of the other brands? BTW I called Gothem products and ordered a couple of fans/filters, another tent, light, and they gave me an additional $10 bucks off each item. Saved about $50 bucks from their ebay and store prices. Great company so far. Thanks for turnin me on to them. Big man hug to ya.
 
Hemperfi. Not trying to butt in on your thread, but I have a ph problem and thought that since we were on the subject, I need some help. My tap water measures 7.5ph and the bottled water I checked measures 8.5 to 9.0. Can anyone recommend something that is inexpensive but fairly easy to use to lower my ph. What I have seen says a tablespoon per gallon to lower ph 1 point. So is that 1 point as 7.0 t0 6.9 or 7.0 to 6.0. At 7.5 it would take a lot of liquid ph down at .1 a tablespoon (6 Tbls) a gallon just to get to 6.9. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Yeah, I guess there are a lot of things out there to manipulate Ph -- I was directed to the GH Ph up, and Ph down. They work fine. The nutes work fine as well -- if you mix them right. I screwed up that plant giving it a double dose of nutes -- I think. I know there are no fundamental problems in my grow. The bud development after only two weeks in 12/12 is amazing. I can not wait to show you the close-up shots of my end product. I have noticed it doesn't happen often. You see what LOOKS like some sweet buds growing, and then you hear about some new strain breaking ground and never see the end product. Some people are growing so many different strains they could not possibly know much about any one of them. I am going to grow and clone, and I am going to find the one strain I like which grows good for me, and I am going to fill up some jars with that S***. That's my objective. I got into this because I am tired of buying sub-standard bud from sub-standard people. Although I am fond of all the people I buy weed from. I just want to be self sufficent. I am close. I am not in this forum because I desire popularity or need to have my ego inflated. I am here because after reading this forum for a month before even asking a question, I realized this was a place where I could actually learn how to grow. I saw you people giving educated, proven advice and not asking anything in return. I respect that. I saw what can only be described as a movement in a society that needs to be moved. I am proud to be a part of MP. I am a beginning grower, but I have a fine little crop coming up because of all of the instruction I have recieved from you folks. Thank you.


Peace
 
smokster42 said:
Hemperfi. Not trying to butt in on your thread, but I have a ph problem and thought that since we were on the subject, I need some help. My tap water measures 7.5ph and the bottled water I checked measures 8.5 to 9.0. Can anyone recommend something that is inexpensive but fairly easy to use to lower my ph. What I have seen says a tablespoon per gallon to lower ph 1 point. So is that 1 point as 7.0 t0 6.9 or 7.0 to 6.0. At 7.5 it would take a lot of liquid ph down at .1 a tablespoon (6 Tbls) a gallon just to get to 6.9. Any help would be appreciated.

Smoke, Get some GH Ph up and PH down -- two different bottles -- I estimate the PH by the color in the vial. It is easy to manipulate. *says the blind leading the blind,* lol.
 
those plants i seen a page two back look just fine to me. gotta love some cha ching. what was ff thinking when they named that? lol. why not bada bing, cause that sounds more like, 'hey, i got this'. :)

i was a new grower, new gardener, new daddy once too. took me exactly three full indoor grows to get in a descent groove where i was comfortable with the buds i was smoking from these. so just go slow, and don't overlook the little things that are obvious to you hemper-fi. that fourth full on grow, i guarantee you'll be walking the walk, talking the talk, look back on today, and say, ''cha-ching. i got this''!!!

peace...

:48:
 
Just whaT i NEED, ANOTHER judge of my character. Feel free, and do what you believe is right -- and bless you on the way out the door.
 
HemperFi said:
Just whaT i NEED, ANOTHER judge of my character. Feel free, and do what you believe is right -- and bless you on the way out the door.

No offense bud, but after reading the last few pages of your thread....You seemed to be verbally pissing on some people whom were trying to help you. Some pretty darned knowledgeable peeps at that. Learn to take crticism when you ask for help. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU POSE QUESTIONS ON AN INTERNET FORUM. Why bother asking if you dont want an answer?
 
No offence BUD, but all I have done is disagree with the prognosis of the "master grower" you are so enamored with. My garden does NOT have a problem with Ph. That's the truth no matter who says what about what. I over nuted a plant -- why is that so hard to believe?

I don't need this....

I want to thank those of you who have helped me so much -- I truly appreciate everything you have taught me . I guess I just don't play well with others. It's is something I have been trying to work on. I thought I had found a home (so-to-speak) but I guess my personality is so flawed I can't even get along in an "internet forum." Thank you -- I think I can take it on my own from here.

Peace
 
Can't say I didn't see this coming....

AK is absolutely correct, good info by great people being dismissed because you believe you know what is going on. Maybe you do, maybe all us watching are fools, but listening isn't really that hard...especially if you believe you are right.

You'll see this as an attack too, but it's not, just wanting you to realize you ran everyone off, everyone who was gung-ho on watching and helping you. Read back and realize, there were a lot of good people in here watching and helping...

Be safe, my friend, and good luck!
 
You all probably don't care what I think, but I feel the need to chim in. Opinion are like aholes. Everybody has one. Mine will be an opinion. Take them for what they are worth. HemperFi had a problem. He was on top of the world with how easy things were going and then all the sudden he opens his tent and bamm. One of his beautiful plants was sick. Now everyone of us handles things like this differently, but we usually research, ask questions, read everything we can on the subject, you know the drill. He read information in a grow pamplet, book whatever, and came up with what seemed resonable as to what happened. He came on here and asked all you very knowledgeable people your "opinion". You all did as asked and started giving him "ideas" as to what mite be wrong. But not once, but over and over, and over. Almost like you would do a child. It felt to me like you ALL were trying to FORCE your opinion, and thats all it is is an OPINION. Just like the pamplet he read. Yes, you could see the pictures. And everyone of you may be right. But trying to force a person to see your opinion as the their own is not the answer. Its like a marriage, or raising children. You CAN NOT force your opnions, beliefs, experiences, whatever, on someone. Humans are not built that way. We can be told that fire is hot but have all have to check it for ourselfs. And thank God we are that way. But then we live an a ME world so this is what we end up with. If you all truelly read this grow from the start and really cared then you would have remembered that HemperFi is a veteran. A fighter, a hero, a survivor. He has been to WAR. He has more going on then any civilian could ever wrap thier mind around.
 
Sorry, It posted before I was through. It felt like to me that most of you were trying to push Hemp into agreeing with your opinion and that be the end of it. It doesn't work that way. Sometimes, some of you (my opinion here so don't no one get thier dander up) act like you are the know all tell all and will post whatever you can find to push your "facts/ opinions on to someone. Nothin is the "fact" in this ever changing world. New discoveries are made every day. IMO Hemp was feeling like you guys were pushing him into seeing it your way and he did what his instinct told him and he kindly fought back. The Ant fellow again IMO was very rude. And then more bombarding with the same opinion that it just had to be the PH. If trying to push your opinions as "right" onto someone causes this type of reaction then something is wrong with the delivery. Give your opinion, if the person asks for more then give more. If they don't take it then so be it. Don't keep trying to get them to see things your way, and don't accuse them of not knowing anything, or that what they think is wrong. I think you are all wrong and all right. Just take what you can use and go on. Its funny. The quote I have had at the bottom of my page has been there since I became a member. I also get from it that being RIGHT can come at a price. If it does come at a price then how much was it worth just to be RIGHT. Take it for what it's worth. ITS JUST AN OPINION. Right
 

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