Why are my girls so skinny...

[NewbieG]

I'll give a little bit of story before I jump into the question. I vegged for almost two months, "forced flower" by turning the light on to 12/12. The roots are extremely developed. I have two of my plants in 8.3 quart jugs and I can see the roots at the bottom. I believe I've been in flower for around 5 to 6 weeks and I'm just really not happy with the growth I've seen... It seems very very small compared to what I'm seeing from you guys... I used bag seed, and I realize that seeds have a big role, but I've heard if you grow right you can get 10 to 20 ounces a plant... From the look of things I'll be lucky to harvest an ounce at this rate... I have 5 females. Two are in solo cups, one is in a larger container, and two are in 8.3 liter tubs. I used MG soil, one dose of MG nutes for veg. and have used about 2 feedings of mG flowering nutes (it says to only use once every two weeks to prevent nute burn). I've watered, and they look very very healthy and happy, but they just aren't producing alot of buds.. Its frustrating.
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[KADE]

errr... 20 ounces a plant? you need a long veg time and huge amounts of light for something like that.....
typical indoor amounts are typically around an ounce a plant.... unless you are growing a ebb n flo bucket type system... i believe stoney does it that way? he is also a homegrown professional..

I have a buddy that gets 2lbs off of one plant (32 ounces) but it takes him 6 months and a lot of plant training to do it.

 

[NewbieG]

errr... 20 ounces a plant? you need a long veg time and huge amounts of light for something like that.....
typical indoor amounts are typically around an ounce a plant.... unless you are growing a ebb n flo bucket type system... i believe stoney does it that way? he is also a homegrown professional..

I have a buddy that gets 2lbs off of one plant (56 ounces) but it takes him 6 months and a lot of plant training to do it.

no I completely understand I'm not going to get 20 ounces. I wasn't expecting more than 2 or 3 per plant. But I was expecting an average of an ounce a plant... not an ounce total. I mean with 4 to 5 weeks left in flowering, should I be expecting a dramatic increase in bud size... or is this it??

 

[mastersativa]

Hard to say but if your at 6 weeks now and you let it go for another 4 weeks, you should see some good growth. They tend to pack it on a little in the end.

 

[TheStickyIcky]

For one thing, they are probably extremely rootbound. Especially the two in solo cups. That's about as much that can be determined. What kind of lights are you using? If you vegged for 8 weeks, they should be BIG strong plants that are sexually mature. With the lack of information, I'm going to go out on a limb and say insufficient lighting. Give us some more info and pics and we might be able to help you a little more. Good luck.

 

[Hick]

I have a buddy that gets 2lbs off of one plant (56 ounces) but it takes him 6 months and a lot of plant training to do it.

..Okay, when "I" was in school, a pound weighed 16 ounces X2= 32 oz.
..an ounce is 28 grams X2=56 gr.
..hee hee ....KADE made a boo-boo..
...either, or, 2 lbs is a huge ID plant..

 

[simo123]

ostpicsworthless:

If you want to post some pictures then we all will know what you are dealing with

 

[jash]

plants in 8.3lt pots that veg for 2 months + roots runing out of bottom sounds like rootbound= growth slows down. im using some 8lt pot 4flowering without problems but after veg for a month only-you need larger pots for flowering 2months vegged plants

 

[KADE]

..Okay, when "I" was in school, a pound weighed 16 ounces X2= 32 oz.
..an ounce is 28 grams X2=56 gr.
..hee hee ....KADE made a boo-boo..
...either, or, 2 lbs is a huge ID plant..

HAHAHAH ohhh my... I knew that too.... perhaps i was *ahem* thinkin 28.3 grams in an ounce? LMAO Can ya tell I dont sell? hahah

Thank you hick sir...

Yeah, i tell my buddy he'd get more off a scrog grow... but he is always scared of the # of plants... so he grows ONE.. 2ce a year.. lol

 

[NewbieG]

I'm trying to underwater for a day hoping that it'll scare the plant into some fast growth. I'm going to visit my ladies tonight sometime so I'll try to remember to take some pictures of the girls. But the roots aren't coming out of the bottom of the 8.3 quart ones, they are just visible. They are very small roots, but still roots none the less. I guess my lesson is that I vegged for too long. Its my first grow and I was looking for alternation nodes on the main stem and that didn't occur until after I forced flower.
Like I said I'll take pictures so you guys can give me some advice.

 

[Hick]

HAHAHAH ohhh my... I knew that too.... perhaps i was *ahem* thinkin 28.3 grams in an ounce? LMAO Can ya tell I dont sell? hahah

Thank you hick sir...

Yeah, i tell my buddy he'd get more off a scrog grow... but he is always scared of the # of plants... so he grows ONE.. 2ce a year.. lol

:hubba:..

 

[TheStickyIcky]

I'm trying to underwater for a day hoping that it'll scare the plant into some fast growth.

Honestly that will only stress them out more.

 

[NewbieG]

Honestly that will only stress them out more.

I realize this, but people do stress training all the time. This is my logic... when the plants are stressed beyond their normal levers of comfort, the get scared into the fact that they might die, in order to make up for this they put more and more strength into "seed production" (or in our case producing bud). We didin't stress them too much, we should have watered yesterday, we watered today instead, no big. I also trimmed the plant in hopes that it will produce more bud on the main cola. But I guess We'll see. I forgot to take the camera today, so I'll take it tom. when I check up on them.

 

[tom-tom]

i think u might want to leave them alone now and just harvest what u can when they are done cause i think its 2 late to transplant now ,like the outhers said u got root bound and they stoped growing rapidley,we all learn from are mistakes i make them all the time lol but mabey next time ull use bigger pots ,cause i think more light and biger pots equal way hapier plants,,hope it works out for u but if i was u i would not and i stress would not try stress traing them while in flower i think stressing ur plant while in flower is a big no no ,at least if u want any thing to smoke at all if u stress it u may just stress it enof to where it not only stops growing but stops flowerin ,,also u said u are going to underwater for a day does this mean u are watering ur plant every day? if so that might just be the problem 2

 

[TheStickyIcky]

I realize this, but people do stress training all the time. This is my logic... when the plants are stressed beyond their normal levers of comfort, the get scared into the fact that they might die, in order to make up for this they put more and more strength into "seed production" (or in our case producing bud). We didin't stress them too much, we should have watered yesterday, we watered today instead, no big. I also trimmed the plant in hopes that it will produce more bud on the main cola. But I guess We'll see. I forgot to take the camera today, so I'll take it tom. when I check up on them.

I don't want to come out and tell you that your logic is wrong, but I can tell you putting un-needed stress on your plants in flower is never good. It will decrease bud production and may cause the plants to hermie. Trimming isn't good for them either.

 

[S']['()|\|3D]

Ok i think i read right that u have them growing in solo cups?? That means 16 oz cups?? Well if that is the case the plants are long overdue for a transplant and u might want to consider a transplant ASAP! Ur plants will only grow as big as the roots can stretch and grow... So if they have been there for the entire grow u might wanna consider 1 gallon - 5gallon pots. Just my opinion.

Also even in 1 gallon pots if vegged for only a month and flowered for 2 u will proly get 1 oz off of one plant. IMO.
But if vegged for longer u will get more height and more branches with alterning nodes, thus more bud sites which equals more bud obviosly.
Hope this helps

 

[KADE]

I don't want to come out and tell you that your logic is wrong, but I can tell you putting un-needed stress on your plants in flower is never good. It will decrease bud production and may cause the plants to hermie. Trimming isn't good for them either.

Well I won't tell him he is wrong either.... but the medical growers bible by jorge cervantes sure would.

You don't trim before flowering... and u want zero stress.

Low humidity is the only thing you want to get a lil more resin... but even too low humidity and u'll make the plants work harder to keep hydrated.