Sativas not flowering

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didn't mean to cause a fuss with my post :eek:

medicore sorry your thread got trashed because of what I posted bro :eek:

not what I wanted......

grow on

:ccc:
 
Mutt said:
I do not look at post count.
I look at grow journals and how the people you ahppen to be saying is full of bolgney showed me the right way. You are challenging a group...yes more than one that happened to learn from the two people YES two that are "regurgitating" information. Two of which among many that happen to be my mentors.
You may have "lucked" out. With a deep freeze or two. But please do not confuse frost with freeze. They are two different things.
Post count HA....post count don't mean squat to me. It is a decent guideline...but I am a mod. I watch and read every damn post.
Just because you don't "see" some members grows here doesn't mean they are "regurgitating" information.
I am not ban happy.
I am pissed because you showed me squat. I can yank a pic outa the gallery snow covered and purple due to temps. But it couldn't take much more I will tell you that.
I will not argue...show me a picture snow covered and a therm with below 45F for more than 15 days and it lived and budded THEN and ONLY then WILL I believe you.
Period. I will admit I am wrong then..Prove It.

Mutt, I don't know what showing you snow covered bud will prove. As you say in your post, " I can yank a pic outa the gallery snow covered and purple due to temps. " I showed you a nice purple bud that'd been temp shocked. By suggesting that, it tells me that you too know that low temps shock the bud into changing color, and not dying out. In the same text you're saying this then telling me that it's no proof.

If you agree with me, then why are you on the other side of the fence? I saw a bad piece of advise and called it out. If it had been from a new poster, we wouldn't be having this discussion, but it wasn't. It was from an 'experienced grower.

The best proof would be to tell you what area I'm in then you could check the weather for the last month, but I've already shown you too much. So, I'd decided to show you proof that only an experienced grower would recognize.
 
OK not a picture.....not a link or proof to what you say. What ever....You have not broken any rules. So have your fun dude. I'm out.
Have fun dude. Time for this dog to get up back on the porch and go to sleep.
This old dog knows what works for him. Night dude. What ever floats yer boat down the merry river.
 
Wow man, I leave for a couple days and everybody is kung foo fighting. HaHaHa. Hey Iheartindica, get off my thread man. I appreciate all advice, but you didn't have to start off with those first few comments. I am serious man, you just posted to make HGB sound stupid, that's not right. Next time give me your opinion, you don't have to tell anyone they are wrong. Just leave this thread alone so I can get more opinions from other people. Thanks and peace.........please.
 
Iheartindica said:
Mutt, I don't know what showing you snow covered bud will prove. As you say in your post, " I can yank a pic outa the gallery snow covered and purple due to temps. " I showed you a nice purple bud that'd been temp shocked. By suggesting that, it tells me that you too know that low temps shock the bud into changing color, and not dying out. In the same text you're saying this then telling me that it's no proof.

If you agree with me, then why are you on the other side of the fence? I saw a bad piece of advise and called it out. If it had been from a new poster, we wouldn't be having this discussion, but it wasn't. It was from an 'experienced grower.

The best proof would be to tell you what area I'm in then you could check the weather for the last month, but I've already shown you too much. So, I'd decided to show you proof that only an experienced grower would recognize.

Purple is temp shock....Did you not say that nute uptake is in "freezing" level ?
Undernfrost level conditons (temp) in MJ cease....not heresay...biological fact....End convo for me....
Damn bong hits.....got better damn things to do than go in circles.
 
No I didn't say that nute uptake is in freezing. I said that nute uptake doesn't stop at 60 as HGB suggested. That it'll continue on till temps reach nearly 32.

medicore sorry for the intrusion, but if you reread his post,

"when temps dip below 60 the plants stop uptake'n nutes :)
dont think any amount of P will help them and will most likely couse more harm than good now...."

I called it balogny. In fact, I called it balogny using a joking, non insulting way. Only Mutt found it an insult...and he's a mod???

I didn't sign up to get into a Peeing contest with Mutt. What I'm suggesting is that 60 is still spring temps. Your plants do well in the spring right? Then they'll do fine now. Just give them the 10 52 10 and force bloom.
 
Marijuana Grower's Handbook - Part 1 of 33

"Marijuana : The Plant"

from

Marijuana Grower's Handbook
[Indoor/Greenhouse Edition]
Ed Rosenthal

"Temperature"

Marijuana plants are very hardy and survive over a wide range of temperatures. They can withstand extremely hot weather, up to 120 degrees, as long as they have adequate supplies of water. Cannabis seedlings regularly survive light frost at the beginning of the season. Both high and low temperatures slow marijuana's rate of metabolism and growth. The plants function best in moderate temperatures - between 60 and 85 degrees. As more light is available, the ideal temperature for normal plant growth increases. If plants are given high temperatures and only moderate light, the stems elongate. Conversely, strong light and low temperatures decrease stem elongation. During periods of low light, strong elongation is decreased by lowering the temperature. Night temperatures should be 10-15 degrees lower than daytime temperatures. Temperatures below 50 degrees slow growth of most varieties. When the temperature goes below 40 degrees, the plants may experience some damage and require about 24 hours to resume growth. Low nighttime temperatures may delay or prevent bud maturation. Some equatorial varieties stop growth after a few 40 degree nights.
A sunny room or one illuminated by high wattage lamps heats up rapdily. During the winter the heat produced may keep the room comfortable. However the room may get too warm during the summer. Heat rises, so that the temperature is best measured at the plants' height. A room with a 10 foot ceiling may feel uncomfortably warm at head level but be fine for plants 2 feet tall.
If the room has a vent or window, an exhaust fan can be used to cool it. Totally enclosed spaces can be cooled using a water conditioner which cools the air by evaporating water. If the room is lit entirely by lamps, the day/night cycle can be reversed so that the heat is generated at night, when it is cooler out.
Marijuana is a low-temperature tolerant. Outdoors, seedlings sometimes pierce snow cover, and older plants can withstand short, light frosts. Statistically, more males develop in cold temperatures. However, low temperatures slow down the rate of plant metabolism. Cold floors lower the temperature in containers and medium, slowing germination and growth. Ideally, the medium temperature should be 70 degrees. There are several ways to warm the medium. The floor can be insulated using a thin sheet of styrofoam, foam rubber, wood or newspaper. The best way to insulate a container from a cold floor is to raise the container so that there is an air space between it and the floor.
Overhead fans, which circulate the warm air downward from the top of the room also warm the medium.
When the plants' roots are kept warm, the rest of the plant can be kept cooler with no damage. Heat cables or heat mats, which use small amounts of electricity, can be used to heat the root area. These are available at nursery supply houses.
When watering, tepid water should be used. Cultivators using systems that recirculate water can heat the water with a fish tank heater and thermostat. If the air is cool, 45-60 degrees, the water can be heated to 90 degres. If the air is warm, over 60 degrees, 70 degrees for the water is sufficient. The pipes and medium absorb the water down a bit before it reaches the roots.
Gardens using artificial lighting can generate high air temperatures. Each 100 watt metal halide and ballast emits just a little less energy can a 10 amp heater. Several lights can raise the temperature to an intolerable level. In this case a heat exchanger is required. A venting fan or misters can be used to lower temperatures. Misters are not recommended for use around lights.
Greenhouses can also get very hot during the summer. If the sun is very bright, opaquing paint may lower the amount of light and heat entering the greenhouse. Fans and cooling mats also help. Cooling mats are fibrous plastic mats which hold moisture. Fans blow air through the mats which lowers the greenhouse temperature. They are most effective in hot dry areas. They are available througn nursery supply houses.


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everything I find on low temps say the same thing

low temperatures slow down the rate of plant metabolism

this tells me the plant cant uptake nute's as well if temps are below 60*.... How is pumping more P to it going to help if it cant metabolism it?

last winter my grow room got down to 55 and no matter how much 0-50-30 I gave it made NO diff in the plant growth.... sure I got a crop but not like I do when temps are up around 75*

pink and purple can also be a pheno trait like the POG I grow :) and has nothing to do with cool temps.

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.... HGB, maybe you could copy the whole book for me in a PM... Please? :eek: I'm not an expert outdoor grower and I live in SoCal so I never really worry about freezing temps but reading and gathering information made my experiences much more comprehendible. I've read a few books by Ed Rosenthal.

Experience is key but scientific evidence is hard to argue with. ;)
 
Hey, my sativas are flowering, checked them this morning and they are just beginning. So we will see how far they will get before the cold starts effecting them.
 
Heres a picture of my partners home made cherry pie
shall we all have a smoke and a slice of pie and calm down?

Hippy lmao

cherry pie.jpg
 
medicore said:
Hey, my sativas are flowering, checked them this morning and they are just beginning. So we will see how far they will get before the cold starts effecting them.

Thats great news medicore, what temp. range are they seeing now?
 

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