Nute Question

[Hushpuppy]

I suspect yer probably fine with what yu have there, but it is a little low on the Phosphorous compared with what I have seen in other nute formulas. It can't be too bad looking at yer plant. It is developing nicely, and it will develop further as yu get closer to harvest. I go back to what I said about the ballance of nutrients. I don't know how many lumens yer plant is getting at this point, so adding another bloom formula might boost the bud production some or it may not make much difference. I wouldn't sweat it right now, but if yu want to get some bloom boost talk to yer hydro guy and see what he says. Or Yu could finish out this grow like it is so long as yu don't see any deficiencies, and then on the next grow add some bloom boosters.

 

[Hushpuppy]

I just looked up yer DNF and found one place in the States that carries it. I don't know if they ship there but yu can probably order the stuff from yer hydro-guy. I saw on "aghydroponics.com" which is in Colorado has the Dutch Nutrient Formula products, and they list several nute boosters that go along with what yu are using. I would suggest for yer next grow that yu get the carbobooster and the bloom booster....I know that yu wanted to keep things simple but it's hard to do that with a nute formula that is all things for all plants and is simple as the chemistry doesn't work well that way...If yu look up any of the nute brands that are top of the market, yu will find that they have the basic formulas and then formula suppliments that just can't be mixxed with the basic formula in the same bottle for chemistry reasons...Check out the website and look at the other products offered by DNF then if yu want to buy it local then just get yer hydro-guy to order it for yu.

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

ya true about this grow and see whats up next one..
Right now im using:
3x4200 lumens
1x2250 lumens
3x1200 lumens
2x900 lumens
Total 20,250 lumen...... i think im good there donno tho?

Whats the site your talkin about brother?
If i post the site the store i buy from has would you mind pointing me in the direction of what i might need because he carries a fair bit

 

[Hushpuppy]

sure, no problem, I'll check it out for ya...20k lumens? how big is yer grow area? it looked like about 4 square feet? If so then lumens are still a little weak, which will limit yu on yer growth and yeild, but will not ruin yu.

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

ya my grow area is exactly that haha not much but its producing
right on thanks....
http://steveshydroponics.ca/

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

im actually in the process's of findind a hps either 4 or 6 hund watt to replace my lighting for my next run

 

[Hushpuppy]

Whew!! took me a few to go through the website for yer hydro store. He looks impressive, got a lot to choose from. I don't mess with canna products as I have heard not so good things about using them for hydro-grows. I can't remember if yu said yer in soil or DWC, but if yu like the DNF product then stay with it for now. There's a lot to be said for getting the feel for using one product to its best. If yu want to add anything to yer plant at this point then I would say get the DNF Carbologic. Or yu could add the Advanced Nutrients' "Big Bud", but ask yer hydro guy if the two different brands would work together ok (got to be careful about changing nute brands midstream). For the next grow yu could stay with the DNF and get the Grow A+B and DNF Green, and DNF Carbologic...If yu want to change up nutes next grow, a lot of people like the General Hydroponics Flora series or Flora Nova series... If yu want to move up, yu can go with the Advanced NUtrients' grow-Micro-Bloom or if yu want to go organic, yu can get Advanced Nutrients' Iquana Juice grow&bloom with Organic B1, then add Advanced "Big Bud" during flower. Do some reading of the nutrient stickies before yer next grow, I think they may help yu understand a little more. But deciding on nute brands is almost like putting all their pictures on the wall and throwing darts to decide which to try first. I think everyone here has their own liking and their own experiences with bad nute issues, but a lot of peeps on here like General hydroponics or foxfarm organics, or Advanced Nutrients. I use Technaflora nutes and have not talked to anyone else on here who has used it. I have had solid results with it so far and like it, but I will probably change in the future just to see if I get better results with another. Good luck with it brother. Big bud mojo

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

I use dirt right now wanna get the hang of that before i DWC.....
thanks for everything man, i happy hes got such a laid out site, bud got a nice little setup by me i was impressed, problem with me is im a perfectionist and would much rather quality then quantity, so i'll have to some more readin.
i didnt even realize he had GH products there. id like to start using thos because alot of ppl talk highly about the product

On the site he has alot of GH products if i wanted to use thos next run what would u recommend?
Flora Series Bloom
Flora Series Micro

 

[Hushpuppy]

I'm glad I can help. I think the GH flora series would be a good start rather than the Nova series. The flora has the 3 parts, grow, micro, and bloom. Make sure yu get all three.Also look up GH online to get the feed schedule, if yer hydro guy doesn't have it. I have seen it on another site and it is good to have and follow its instructions. Just remember that when yu start out, reduce what the feed schedule says by half for the first part of the grow then gradually increase it so that the plants can tell yu how much they like.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

Remember that just because someone owns a grow shop does not mean that they know what they are talking about.

I use GH 3 part with no bloom enhancers of any kind. I tried Carboload for a while, but really didn't see any difference in the buds.

It still looks to me like the Dutch Formula has far too much N and not enough P for a flowering nute.

 

[Hushpuppy]

Good Mornin Goddess. Do yu use anything else with the GH3 part or does that do the job for yu. I use Technaflora and have considered switching to GH3 part myself. Have yu ever heard any other comments about Technaflora?

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

Ill look into the 3part gh i like the sounds of it seems to be alot of ppl use it have have great results.... thanks again

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

Good Mornin Goddess. Do yu use anything else with the GH3 part or does that do the job for yu. I use Technaflora and have considered switching to GH3 part myself. Have yu ever heard any other comments about Technaflora?

I generally add some Cal-Mag. My tap water is about 50 ppms, so not much in it.

Can't say as I have heard anything about technaflora--is this a nute line or a bloom enhancer?

 

[Hushpuppy]

Technaflora makes a whole line that they call the "recipe for success". It has the basic 3 part, and then includes a cal/mag, rooting enhanser, a micronute +B vitamins called "thrive alive", a bloom booster, and a carbbooster. I started with this about a year ago when my hydro-lady (who grows for herself) recommended it. I read some decent reviews on it b4 buying it, but yu know how those are. Another friend told me that he had used it successfully for some time so I went with it, and have done well. Unfortunately I don't have any way to compare its results with anything else unless I talk to others or try something new myself, which I may yet do. It sounds like a lot but the price works out about the same for the "recipe" versus GH, AN, and Dutch Master, and the nute schedule is fairly easy to work. It actually allows for micromanaging the individual NPK levels which I like to be able to do if I see the need. I haven't done a lot of experimenting with it but I have had to make adjustments a couple times to correct issues that I caused, and it worked well to allow me to do that.

 

[Johnny Trip]

A NPK of 4 7 6 is good for flowering or P is not big enough ?

 

[Hushpuppy]

Generally yu want the Nto be considerably lower than P and K as those are the flowering nutrients that are most needed. Also, everything I have read and heard says that yu don't want much Nitrogen during flower as that can inhibit flowering in some way. I would say 4-7-6 would be good for the first 2 weeks of flower but then N should probably either drop off or Pand K should increase. The NPK numbers from what I understand are percentages of available nutrient in the mixture, but I'm not sure how that works. I have seen bloom formulas that are 0-20-20 and as much as 0-50-30 but those numbers can be deceiving when comparing them to say a 2-8-7 formula. Ultimately yu have to test out formulas to find what yer plants are happy with for your setup

 

[dman1234]

Ill look into the 3part gh i like the sounds of it seems to be alot of ppl use it have have great results.... thanks again

Its what i use, along with koolbloom the last 4 weeks of flower.

 

[Menimeth]

Ill look into the 3part gh i like the sounds of it seems to be alot of ppl use it have have great results.... thanks again

It is what I use as well, and when my girls go to flower I will use Koolbloom for the last half of the flower cycle. Even in the extreme heat and drought I have been forced to endure, my plants are growing at about an inch a day in veg.

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

Gh Flora series is what i need then thanks again for all the feed back

 

[MrBobMarleyJr]

my hydro guy has bloom boosters and most are organic or a 0-55-30 or 0-50-30