Loolagigi's first grow journal, 400 hps

[loolagigi]

Hows the cab turnin out?

good. i have a my 400 hps obviously, but its summer here, and all the ventilation and air cooled hood i could use, just isnt very efficient. temps go up to high 80's. so, i have been using 4 cfl's for the little ones for now, and just today i upgraded cfl's......16 toatal, heres pics........as you can see there is 2 bulbs missing, i dropped them. ill hit the store up tomm. and i alsi raised the pots a little close than in pics. temps went up some so i turned on 465 fan, let me see what the temps are right now........80.2 at 54 r/h. so far so good. i am afraid that when the time comes to flower, the hps is ganna make me spent more loot on cooling, but well see, maybe by then the temps outside will relax some...

 

[loolagigi]

here ya go, i used half day light , and half soft white bulbs

 

[smokybear]

Looking good so far. I like the panels you built there. Very nice my friend. Hopefully you can get temps in control. Keep us posted. Take care and be safe.

 

[zipflip]

thanks for sharin man. im a watch along. im interested on sein ya results. ya room looks bout exactly same size my flower room. and my last grow before one goin now i used same number cfl's as you and all 26watters as well.
and considering all the abuse i put em thru wit my beginner hands i still think i had a alright turnout on em tho. and now im runnin 20 cfls same 26watters. and more plants. really tight fit in my room butits still workin nice considering they cfl's.
you are keepin the lights closer to ya plants than in the pix tho right?
if not, might i suggest ya give em a boost closer to the lights or bring ya lights down to they level more. when i was runnin 16 cfl's i only had a 4 inch puter fan for exhaust as well as a 4 inch pc fan for intake.
granted i had to keep my door to the grow open durrin lites on it still got pretty warm in there tho.
maybe check wally world for them 4 inch high velocity fans... i believe i paid 7bux each for mine. and i got two blowin down the ballast line of all my cfl's. and it help wonders really.
they got a piece on the fan that'll allow you to hang it nice nd neat right on the edge of ya hood too.
grab a few of them and put two on ya hood and one blowin down across te canopy/tops of ya plants and you should be able kep it a bit cooler even.
also another thing that may help is i noticed in ya pic above ya got two ventillation Puter fans. i assume ones intake and ones exhaust,no? i think you'd find better results havin ya exhaust closer to the top ya cab there. maybe right up by the lites and that way it can suck out the hot air comin off the lights from the high velocity fans blowin down ya litebulbs ballasts.
i dig the setup totally man the way it is. im jsut tryin to throw out a few things for ya that i found to be very effective in my runn wit cfls and that bein i had 16 as well last grow.
my rooms only 2.5' x 2.8' x 3.5ft high

 

[loolagigi]

thanks for sharin man. im a watch along. im interested on sein ya results. ya room looks bout exactly same size my flower room. and my last grow before one goin now i used same number cfl's as you and all 26watters as well.
and considering all the abuse i put em thru wit my beginner hands i still think i had a alright turnout on em tho. and now im runnin 20 cfls same 26watters. and more plants. really tight fit in my room butits still workin nice considering they cfl's.
you are keepin the lights closer to ya plants than in the pix tho right?
if not, might i suggest ya give em a boost closer to the lights or bring ya lights down to they level more. when i was runnin 16 cfl's i only had a 4 inch puter fan for exhaust as well as a 4 inch pc fan for intake.
granted i had to keep my door to the grow open durrin lites on it still got pretty warm in there tho.
maybe check wally world for them 4 inch high velocity fans... i believe i paid 7bux each for mine. and i got two blowin down the ballast line of all my cfl's. and it help wonders really.
they got a piece on the fan that'll allow you to hang it nice nd neat right on the edge of ya hood too.
grab a few of them and put two on ya hood and one blowin down across te canopy/tops of ya plants and you should be able kep it a bit cooler even.
also another thing that may help is i noticed in ya pic above ya got two ventillation Puter fans. i assume ones intake and ones exhaust,no? i think you'd find better results havin ya exhaust closer to the top ya cab there. maybe right up by the lites and that way it can suck out the hot air comin off the lights from the high velocity fans blowin down ya litebulbs ballasts.
i dig the setup totally man the way it is. im jsut tryin to throw out a few things for ya that i found to be very effective in my runn wit cfls and that bein i had 16 as well last grow.
my rooms only 2.5' x 2.8' x 3.5ft high

thanks man. awesome info. plants are doing well for 10 days/// heres some pics. ppm is 375, and ph is 5.9. dirty, where ya at?

 

[DirtySouth]

lookin good.So sorry,I feel like something is rippin me hips in2.I feel cold/hot/clammy.
It looks as though the left plant had direct contact w/ runoff.No biggy,b careful.If you drip on the plant(maby moving after dippin ?) just leave it outta the direct light until she is dry.
I like the node placement w/ compact floros/floros.Much tighter! Glad to see your doing the damn thing.
I check ur thread daily,seem to have it under controle,4 the mean time.
Any questions bout Dirtys dro?

 

[loolagigi]

lookin good.So sorry,I feel like something is rippin me hips in2.I feel cold/hot/clammy.
It looks as though the left plant had direct contact w/ runoff.No biggy,b careful.If you drip on the plant(maby moving after dippin ?) just leave it outta the direct light until she is dry.
I like the node placement w/ compact floros/floros.Much tighter! Glad to see your doing the damn thing.
I check ur thread daily,seem to have it under controle,4 the mean time.
Any questions bout Dirtys dro?

no q"s yet.....just compliments.......thank you!:holysheep:

 

[DirtySouth]

The simplisity

 

[loolagigi]

fed last night, 5.9 ph, with a ppm of like 260. lots of babies.

 

[DirtySouth]

lot-o-water.Dont trip.The rockwool cubes hold a gang of water,maby the cubes are water logged.I dont like to put in pots until bout 6-8"high.My reasoning is simple.Once I dip me plant,Leave submerged 4 15-30 sec.Once I remove said plant from water I give it a-lil squeeze,nothing major(dont want to damage roots,lol).Just enough so as I move them around they don't drip ANYTHING.
Yopur makin progress,maby your ladies dont like 5.9?There is no set ph,it varries strain to strain.

 

[DirtySouth]

heres some pics. ppm is 375, and ph is 5.9. dirty, where ya at?
fed last night, 5.9 ph, with a ppm of like 260
What are you doing?DONT DO THAT!Why are you droppin the ppm?Consistantcy!
The plant on the left is NOT nute burn!375ppm play w/ ur ph(5.5-5.9)anything else ur askin 4 trouble?

 

[loolagigi]

heres some pics. ppm is 375, and ph is 5.9. dirty, where ya at?
fed last night, 5.9 ph, with a ppm of like 260
What are you doing?DONT DO THAT!Why are you droppin the ppm?Consistantcy!
The plant on the left is NOT nute burn!375ppm play w/ ur ph(5.5-5.9)anything else ur askin 4 trouble?

260 was a typo. you told me around 400, so 360-375 was where it was, sorry. yeah, i think it might be too much water. i am going to wait a little longer between dips and see if they perk up.

 

[DirtySouth]

Ya only reason you back down is if their burnt!Look good.

"i am going to wait a little longer between dips and see if they perk up" B careful
O.k. your nutes are added 2 ur water,absorbed into the cube.The roots uptake water/nutes as needed.As the water evaporates the nute consentration is greater(mix up some nutes,375, and put in a cup,place said cup by a window.Come back in 24 hours,the ppm is gonna b alot higher).
The cube DOES NOT need to be completely submerged inorder to uptake water/nute solution.Dip your pot so bout 1/4 of cube is in water.Trust me here.This will eliminate the "droopyness" of the leaves.
Now your lil seedlings,give em a gental squeeze b4 replacing under the light.You dont want the cubes drentched so to speak.
Do you have more 4" cubes?Put em in.You don't want the inital TAP ROOT to air prune(once it hits direct air it basicly stops vertical growth.This is fine later in life,now the root is essential).Just dont put into pots,yet.
Remember 200 ppm 5.6 ph 4 the water 4 the cubes!Don't leave the cube soakin 4 2 long(I drop into bucket,let sink,wait 4 air bubbles to do their thing,give it a squeeze while submerged,let it refill,then remove and squeeze out the excess.

 

[loolagigi]

Ya only reason you back down is if their burnt!Look good.

"i am going to wait a little longer between dips and see if they perk up" B careful
O.k. your nutes are added 2 ur water,absorbed into the cube.The roots uptake water/nutes as needed.As the water evaporates the nute consentration is greater(mix up some nutes,375, and put in a cup,place said cup by a window.Come back in 24 hours,the ppm is gonna b alot higher).
The cube DOES NOT need to be completely submerged inorder to uptake water/nute solution.Dip your pot so bout 1/4 of cube is in water.Trust me here.This will eliminate the "droopyness" of the leaves.
Now your lil seedlings,give em a gental squeeze b4 replacing under the light.You dont want the cubes drentched so to speak.
Do you have more 4" cubes?Put em in.You don't want the inital TAP ROOT to air prune(once it hits direct air it basicly stops vertical growth.This is fine later in life,now the root is essential).Just dont put into pots,yet.
Remember 200 ppm 5.6 ph 4 the water 4 the cubes!Don't leave the cube soakin 4 2 long(I drop into bucket,let sink,wait 4 air bubbles to do their thing,give it a squeeze while submerged,let it refill,then remove and squeeze out the excess.

awesome tips bro. ok next time i dip the 2 that are in pots, i will just dip until the cube gets 1/4 ish soaked. i hope that works....i trust ya. yes i only have 6 4" cubes, so i will pick the 6 best seedlings to transplant into the bigger cubes. 200 ppm, at 5.6. thanks brother.

 

[DirtySouth]

yep 1/4 ish.Now its changed a bit.Since not totally submerged let sit-n-soak,30-45 secs or so.This ensures water absorbtion 2 the top.Make sence?You want the cube moist enough the roots r NOT searching 4 water,but not waterlogger.I know catch 22,right!

 

[loolagigi]

dirty, i just transplanted 5 babies into 4" cubes....can i wait till tomm to cover tops of cubes with plastic, in order to discourage algea?

 

[DirtySouth]

ya

 

[loolagigi]

been working on my 68 camaro paint job, been lazy with the grow this weekend. everything seems ok. i ran out of bigger cubes, so that why there are some in the small ones. and yes, i need to plastic my cubes. whats up dirty, see anything i can improve on? laterz

 

[DirtySouth]

looks 100 from here.1 thing.Looks like you folar fed,y?Very tricky!Light/water/nutes=poss.funeral.C how the water is beadded up,add 1 liny winny drop of cascade(spreadder,stopps beading-heat burns from light and nute magnification)
Check out my Boysenberry+ grow.I took some pics of how to reconize when to bump the nutes up.If you notice it looks like they lacking zinc,sulfer,nitrogen.If I did not know the PH,thats where 1 would assume the problem lies.My ph is 5.5-5.72,not a problem there.This is tellin me Bump em up!!

 

[DirtySouth]

Camaro,vrum vrum screeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhh