East Coast/West Coast, Outdoor Satori grow off

[ston-loc]

Yeah, was trying to skimp a little and went 8 foot span and it has some sag to it. Going to add them in the middle so 4 foot span should make it pretty sturdy. Gotta get some plastic and prep it up so it's ready to go when the time comes to cover them up. Honestly wondering if its going to be high enough. A few of the girls are already a foot from the 8 foot horizontal section. They've all stretched up a lot these past few weeks, not sure how much more vertical growth I'm going to get.

Question on when to switch to flowering nutes. When do you guys usually make the change. 4 of the five are showing a good amount of pistils, but the one i posted a pic of on the last page is def flowering. Calyxs arent really swelling up yet, but they are solid pistils everywhere. I'm using GH3 by the way.
Thanks for stopping in

 

[nouvellechef]

Yeah, was trying to skimp a little and went 8 foot span and it has some sag to it. Going to add them in the middle so 4 foot span should make it pretty sturdy. Gotta get some plastic and prep it up so it's ready to go when the time comes to cover them up. Honestly wondering if its going to be high enough. A few of the girls are already a foot from the 8 foot horizontal section. They've all stretched up a lot these past few weeks, not sure how much more vertical growth I'm going to get.

Question on when to switch to flowering nutes. When do you guys usually make the change. 4 of the five are showing a good amount of pistils, but the one i posted a pic of on the last page is def flowering. Calyxs arent really swelling up yet, but they are solid pistils everywhere. I'm using GH3 by the way.
Thanks for stopping in

You can switch now. If you look at the NPK of the micro and bloom. It has a surprising amount of nitrogen still. Thats why lucas formula works well across the board. You could actually get by with only bloom/micro and dolomite lime. Buy them in the 5gal tubs. Much cheaper, longterm. Esp when you have to feed she beasts.

 

[ston-loc]

Right on NC, actually just ran out of the grow, so that's perfect. Lucas formula search says 8ml micro, 16ml bloom per gallon on a quick search. I've been giving what you advised NC. Tbsp of grow and micro per gallon up til now. Not sure what the conversion of ml is, but I planned to switch to tbsp of micro and bloom per gallon. Or should I double the bloom? Also added the dolomite lime in the soil mix you gave NC. Are you saying to add more?

Didn't know they sold them in 5gallon tubs. Been using the 1 or 2 gallon ones that are the biggest ones the closest hydro store sells. I'll look into that, thanks man!

 

[Dan K. Liberty]

hey ston - a tablespoon is 15 ml, so its about 1/2 tablespoon micro then full tablespoon bloom for each gallon . . . so yes, with Lucas the bloom is double the amt of micro . . . I have a 100 ml. plastic syringe that's handy for making up multi-gallon batches of solution, you can attach a piece of tubing to the tip and suck up a very accurate volume of the nutes outta the bottle without pouring . . . got it here:

hxxp://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ecoplus-100-mlcc-syringe-catherter-tip-p-3610.html

I'm assuming you're needing to make up multi-gallon batches for those b*tches . . .

You can use any good cal/mag supplement instead of dolomite lime in solution . . . I'm using epsom salts for magnesium and antacid tablets for calcium . . . buds are saying "Yum !!" :cool2:

jm2c :48:

 

[ston-loc]

Been thinking of ways to lessen the work load. Have actually been mixing 2 gallons at a time in my watering can.... 6 gallons per plant...
Definitely could use some shortcuts.
I added the lime in the soil mix, should I still supliment? Added a cup of lime per cf. All the girls are looking great, and the entire house is smelling fabulous with the back windows open Thanks for the input Dan... Actually need to convert 32 tbsp to cups, cause I'm gonna be mixing full trash cans of nutrients from now on.. I think that will help :aok:

 

[Dan K. Liberty]

yes, I would still add some kinda cal/mag supplement for a nice robust flowering

and . . . how bout this handy little converter ?

hxxp://www.asknumbers.com/tablespoon-to-cup.aspx

32 US tablespoons = 2 US cups . . . so for 32 gallons solution . . . mix 1 cup micro, then 2 cups bloom !!

the internet is cool, man

danK

 

[ston-loc]

Thanks Dan :aok: hey NC you initially said one to one, should I do that or half to one like Lucas states? Have been kickin *** following you advice so far, just wondering. Appreciate all the input guys and gals... The fun part is just beginning

 

[drfting07]

The fun part is just beginning

:yeahthat: :woohoo:

Working in the garden today. Thinning out the bottom branches, cleaning out all of the dead fan leaves, top dressing a few amendments... stuff like that :cool2:

Also picking up a couple things from town, Soft Rock Phosphate, Ground Oats and Muchroom Compost. I still cant believe my two local gardening centers dont carry EWC. Gotta order some today, and a qrt of Roots Organics HP2.

Oh, and BTW....Im in flower :icon_smile: No new growth, just throwing out the pistils!

 

[Dan K. Liberty]

cool drft . . . lets see the baby bud ****, yer gonna end up with some nice big skunk tails on those mamas from what I've been seeing !!

 

[drfting07]

Thanks Dan :ciao: Ill try and find time to snap some pics today.

Just got back with goodies! Time to make a Tea....:cool2:

 

[ston-loc]

Hey drft, sounds good. Lets see em

Went out and snapped a few pics before direct sun hits them. A couple of the garden, and a couple baby bud ****. Gonna work out there a bit today too. Add some more supports on the tent, and start some staking.

Have a good weekend everybody! :48:

 

[drfting07]

:ciao: Ston-loc

You are a bit ahead of me in bloom. Couple weeks maybe? lookin good.....:48:

 

[ston-loc]

Both those pics are of the one Satori that started throwing pistils super early. All the others are a bit behind that one. They all have pistils, but none were too picture friendly. Didn't look like much when I tried snapping some shots. They are all a little staggered too, so that will be good come harvest time.

 

[ston-loc]

Here ya go Drft, went and tried to get a few better shots of some of the others.

First two are 2 different Satoris, then third the more string-beany Beyond the Brain

 

[SquidyPacheco]

Looking good ston and drifting... :ciao: I was looking at picking up some Mandala gear .. Satori is a must in my garden now after seeing so many people on here giving it rave reviews... I also thought id try and purchase Beyond the brain too.. glad i get to watch your guys grows from start to finish.. great job both of you. and thanks for all the info and pictures.

 

[drfting07]

:ciao: Squidy!

I, like you, had to have it in the garden after all the happy growers here at MarP. Hope you enjoy it!

Just finished my top dress.

1/2 gallon mushroom compost per plant
1 cup Kelp Meal per plant
2 Tbls Epsom Salts per plant
1 1/2 cups Soft Rock Phosphate per plant

I will be using guano based teas from here on out.

 

[drfting07]

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:48:
Drfting07

 

[drfting07]

I see you down there Guerilla

 

[Dan K. Liberty]

dang, thumbs up is right drft . . . nice tight nodes up top there, just ready to bust out into one giant ADULT bud !!

my indoor plants shot up so fast in the stretch, with too much stem and not enough nodes, so the buds below probably won't make it to the buds above them and close up the gap

oh well, looking great guys . . . . bring on the flowers !! :cool2:

 

[nouvellechef]

Right on NC, actually just ran out of the grow, so that's perfect. Lucas formula search says 8ml micro, 16ml bloom per gallon on a quick search. I've been giving what you advised NC. Tbsp of grow and micro per gallon up til now. Not sure what the conversion of ml is, but I planned to switch to tbsp of micro and bloom per gallon. Or should I double the bloom? Also added the dolomite lime in the soil mix you gave NC. Are you saying to add more?

Didn't know they sold them in 5gallon tubs. Been using the 1 or 2 gallon ones that are the biggest ones the closest hydro store sells. I'll look into that, thanks man!

-No you dont need more lime. Or supplements since you added a healthy amount at the start.

-No. Dont decrease the amount like base lucas. 16ml/8ml. Your already beyond that. Thats just where to start. I always do 2tb micro and 1tb bloom at this point of flowering. All the way to chop.