lst - i was just reading up on this method the last couple weeks (many threads in this "excellent forum") + it seems u s/b doing the lsd (many,many years ago) s/b/ lst - asap. personally, i haven't ever done that - i wait until the plants r 24" (in veg.) or so, then try 2 tie down the tops. - not very good - in fact i'm going to post pics in my g/j "a S.A.G.E. in thyme" right now, showing my "lst". next time i will tie down +/or top them earlier in veg. mode not flower, + control them instead of just letting them b.