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[P Jammers]

5'3" is going to be tough. Even in pots on the ground. I'd go taller for sure.

 

[N.E.wguy]

this thread is fun of win!

just was thinking of you, all good thought all good high thoughts

reflipped them had taken clones have 14 different phenos gave 2 moms to a buddy

they hardly ever stopped budding i think they will go fast and the clones look great all real nice tight node cuts

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

5'3" is going to be tough. Even in pots on the ground. I'd go taller for sure.

Yeah, I was worried about that and hence why I was asking you. I think you're right ESPECIALLY with led's being in the picture. I've figured out what I will do. I'll re-create some place to hang and dry my harvest, and use this 2x2x7 tent I already HAVE hahah It's all setup and ready to go, just needs a light. I've been using it as a drying only space. I imagine I can get the same results with totes and clip fans though? lol.

this thread is fun of win!

just was thinking of you, all good thought all good high thoughts

reflipped them had taken clones have 14 different phenos gave 2 moms to a buddy

they hardly ever stopped budding i think they will go fast and the clones look great all real nice tight node cuts

Cheers for enjoying the thread and thinkin' of us. :aok:
Nice to hear all is going well with you.

 

[N.E.wguy]

ya much different cloning off a flower plant back to reveg how much sturdy and hardier they seem, but i also used a better clone tray and gel not powder and rockwollish cube blocks and not rapidrooters

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

*Update*

Just ate .7 g's of Critical Jack Herer on a piece of peanut butter toast. Took dried bud from months ago, that tastes horrible when smoked.. and decarbed in in my convection oven at 270° for 30 minutes, as per recommendation by Weedhopper :aok:

Will update in 45-60 minutes with my thoughts

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

its well past an hour.... so did it put ya down?

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

After 35 minutes a *whoooosh* feeling came in.. and I've been smoking along with it ever since. Still floating along. I'd say it did something. Next up, I do 1g and add some hash. Probably will do that pretty soon here to blast back off further.

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

After 35 minutes a *whoooosh* feeling came in.. and I've been smoking along with it ever since. Still floating along. I'd say it did something. Next up, I do 1g and add some hash. Probably will do that pretty soon here to blast back off further.

:aok: LMAO sounds like a very productive day at your place doc... :48:

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I'm actually considering starting my harvest 2 days early (today instead of Saturday)... not much going on. Once I hurry up and harvest, I can get it back to hydro in there again!!! I'm dying to do that!

So it only makes sense that I medicate to the fullest on this finest day of daze!

 

[Hushpuppy]

Guys I would like to see if I can give a little more insight on the Hygrozyme/organic tea/synthetic nute discussion if I can. First Thanks D for the very kind words and for blowing my head up. I don't know if I deserve all that but I do enjoy learning new stuff and sharing it with others.

I don't consider myself to be a MJ grow master. I still see myself as a student who enjoys learning. But to the point of the feeding regimen:
I used to work for an international company(Novo Nordisk) that makes(produces) enzymes. I learned that the way microbes do all that they do in "natural processes" for making a lot of things, and how they break down raw materials and make them available to plants in nature(process called chelation) is through the use of enzymes that these microbes create within their bodies. An enzyme is a chemical that acts like a tool to break apart molecular structures. I won't go into the whole biochemistry lesson (partly because I don't know all of the facts), but what I do know is that companies who produce enzymes like Novo and Hygrozyme, do so by farming microbes.

These enzyme solutions are precisely the same enzymes that are produced by microbes in natural settings. The companies gather vast amounts of microbes and hold them in huge tanks where they feed them certain nutrients to keep them alive and happily producing their own enzymes. Then these enzymes are collected through special processes, bottled or dried and bagged, and sold to people who need the "natural process" but don't have the ability to utilize microbes.

For those of us who like the flavors given to the MJ products from "organics" but who don't want to go the "organic" method for what ever reason, The hygrozyme/organic tea is a shortcut to get the organic flavors.
Like DGF, I have high regard for PJ and those of you on here who do use the "organic method", but I think you may be misunderstanding my process. We are not trying to add microbes to the synthetic system only to have them die from the synthetics. We are skipping the need for the microbes by using the enzymes that are produced by those microbes.

There are several types of "organic tea" on the market. Some are more microbe teas and some are mainly liquefied, raw, "organic" nutrients, that are in some level of chelation. Some of these nutrient teas are full of microbes while others have very little living microbes left in them by the time they reach the customer. Since adding these teas to the synthetic system will kill off any microbes that may still be living, I decided to skip the microbes and add in the chemicals that they produce (enzymes) which is used to chelate the nutrients so that the plant can absorb them.

I have used several methods in my years of growing and I settled on my favorite method of using hydroponics. I used "organics" for some time, and while I am in no way at the level of experience of growers like PJ, I did do the organic method long enough to decide that I didn't like it for me. If you like it and want to do organics, my method isn't for you. You should do what you enjoy and also works for you.

I don't know if anyone else has discovered this method as I didn't get it from anyone. I take exception to the idea that my method is the result of being brainwashed by any companies. I was happy with the results that I was getting with synthetics until a friend who regularly bought bud from me told me that he and his friends preferred "that organic flavor" in their bud. I was set to go back to organics in one segment of my grow so that I could provide what they liked, but then I saw the discussion of hygrozyme on this forum, and the idea of substituting enzymes for microbes occurred to me.

I tried the hygrozyme and an organic tea (which I had already bought for growing organic). I found that my plants were healthy and happy right up to harvest with virtually no yellowing off toward harvest. I noticed that this first run with this new method had significant yield and odor improvement (using the same strain of plants from clones that I had before beginning the new method). I told no one of my experiment and continued to sell my bud to certain individuals who had been buying from me exclusively. Every person who bought the "new" bud came back to me and said, "man what are you doing to your buds? the flavor is amazing and even more potent than any before. What ever you are doing, keep doing it."

I wasn't satisfied to believe that the "zyme and tea" method was responsible, so I decided to get a couple friends to try it and tell me what results they get. Both people had the same results and continue to use it. One of those is DGF I cant tell you the exact reason it works like it does but the results so far are positive. I would invite anyone interested to try this method and share the results (good, bad, or indifferent. I don't want smoke blown up my skirt), I want to know if it is a viable method.

I normally tell people that you should never mix organics with synthetics or vice-versa as it leads to far too many possible problems. But I see this method, when carefully followed, to be more of a synthetic method with an organic trick up its sleeve. I believe the key to it is the hygrozyme.

 

[Grower13]

Guys I would like to see if I can give a little more insight on the Hygrozyme/organic tea/synthetic nute discussion if I can. First Thanks D for the very kind words and for blowing my head up. I don't know if I deserve all that but I do enjoy learning new stuff and sharing it with others.

I don't consider myself to be a MJ grow master. I still see myself as a student who enjoys learning. But to the point of the feeding regimen:
I used to work for an international company(Novo Nordisk) that makes(produces) enzymes. I learned that the way microbes do all that they do in "natural processes" for making a lot of things, and how they break down raw materials and make them available to plants in nature(process called chelation) is through the use of enzymes that these microbes create within their bodies. An enzyme is a chemical that acts like a tool to break apart molecular structures. I won't go into the whole biochemistry lesson (partly because I don't know all of the facts), but what I do know is that companies who produce enzymes like Novo and Hygrozyme, do so by farming microbes.

These enzyme solutions are precisely the same enzymes that are produced by microbes in natural settings. The companies gather vast amounts of microbes and hold them in huge tanks where they feed them certain nutrients to keep them alive and happily producing their own enzymes. Then these enzymes are collected through special processes, bottled or dried and bagged, and sold to people who need the "natural process" but don't have the ability to utilize microbes.

For those of us who like the flavors given to the MJ products from "organics" but who don't want to go the "organic" method for what ever reason, The hygrozyme/organic tea is a shortcut to get the organic flavors.
Like DGF, I have high regard for PJ and those of you on here who do use the "organic method", but I think you may be misunderstanding my process. We are not trying to add microbes to the synthetic system only to have them die from the synthetics. We are skipping the need for the microbes by using the enzymes that are produced by those microbes.

There are several types of "organic tea" on the market. Some are more microbe teas and some are mainly liquefied, raw, "organic" nutrients, that are in some level of chelation. Some of these nutrient teas are full of microbes while others have very little living microbes left in them by the time they reach the customer. Since adding these teas to the synthetic system will kill off any microbes that may still be living, I decided to skip the microbes and add in the chemicals that they produce (enzymes) which is used to chelate the nutrients so that the plant can absorb them.

I have used several methods in my years of growing and I settled on my favorite method of using hydroponics. I used "organics" for some time, and while I am in no way at the level of experience of growers like PJ, I did do the organic method long enough to decide that I didn't like it for me. If you like it and want to do organics, my method isn't for you. You should do what you enjoy and also works for you.

I don't know if anyone else has discovered this method as I didn't get it from anyone. I take exception to the idea that my method is the result of being brainwashed by any companies. I was happy with the results that I was getting with synthetics until a friend who regularly bought bud from me told me that he and his friends preferred "that organic flavor" in their bud. I was set to go back to organics in one segment of my grow so that I could provide what they liked, but then I saw the discussion of hygrozyme on this forum, and the idea of substituting enzymes for microbes occurred to me.

I tried the hygrozyme and an organic tea (which I had already bought for growing organic). I found that my plants were healthy and happy right up to harvest with virtually no yellowing off toward harvest. I noticed that this first run with this new method had significant yield and odor improvement (using the same strain of plants from clones that I had before beginning the new method). I told no one of my experiment and continued to sell my bud to certain individuals who had been buying from me exclusively. Every person who bought the "new" bud came back to me and said, "man what are you doing to your buds? the flavor is amazing and even more potent than any before. What ever you are doing, keep doing it."

I wasn't satisfied to believe that the "zyme and tea" method was responsible, so I decided to get a couple friends to try it and tell me what results they get. Both people had the same results and continue to use it. One of those is DGF I cant tell you the exact reason it works like it does but the results so far are positive. I would invite anyone interested to try this method and share the results (good, bad, or indifferent. I don't want smoke blown up my skirt), I want to know if it is a viable method.

I normally tell people that you should never mix organics with synthetics or vice-versa as it leads to far too many possible problems. But I see this method, when carefully followed, to be more of a synthetic method with an organic trick up its sleeve. I believe the key to it is the hygrozyme.

awesome content hp ........ sounds like a easy way for someone like me to grow organic.

good rep sent your way.

 

[Kraven]

I'm in hushpuppy. If you would be kind enough to either pm me and lay out the basics, or post for anyone who wants to give this a try, my next up is an Afgooey and I will be running it in my same 5gal dwc. I use the the Sensi Line AN puts out and I add superthive for the b complex and I use Big bud as an enhancer, if i add in hydrozyme and the tea could you help me with when and how I could implement it into my nute rotation? Thanks.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I could help you as well Mr Kraven :aok:

How and when.. I got you.. or HP does. Either way, give it a try.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Oh and started the chop early. Took down 3 Critical Sensi Star today

 

[N.E.wguy]

so i went crazy copy cat on your nute set Total: $288.63 total for it all lol every thing in first post + the tea in big bottles lol

 

[N.E.wguy]

gratz on the early chop can't wait to see what's to come

 

[Kraven]

I could help you as well Mr Kraven :aok:

How and when.. I got you.. or HP does. Either way, give it a try.

thanks doc, When i start the thread for my new grow can you drop those pic's in it and also can you help me work it into my feeding schedule. I would like to get the results we discussed back halfway through my current grow. I would welcome either you or hushpuppy's help....I'm hooked on hydro now

http://www.marijuanapassion.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

 

[Kraven]

Oh and started the chop early. Took down 3 Critical Sensi Star today

ostpicsworthless:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

so i went crazy copy cat on your nute set Total: $288.63 total for it all lol every thing in first post + the tea in big bottles lol

Hah, well then!! Let's see what kind of results you get!

gratz on the early chop can't wait to see what's to come

Thanks man. I chopped another one after that post, so that's 4 total down today. 3 Critical Sensi Star, 1 Pineapple Express

thanks doc, When i start the thread for my new grow can you drop those pic's in it and also can you help me work it into my feeding schedule. I would like to get the results we discussed back halfway through my current grow. I would welcome either you or hushpuppy's help....I'm hooked on hydro now
http://www.marijuanapassion.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

Which pics? I can help you however needed, so certainly. Just let me know what you want posted in your next journal when it's up :aok:

I had a feeling you were going to get hooked.

ostpicsworthless:

Will grab some tomorrow of chopped stuff. It's my ugly soilless run, so nothing too amazing to see

 

[Kraven]

lol was just giving ya a hard time