Sopappy's grow

[sopappy]

I'm a week and a half behind your grow Sopappy. I hope mine look that good. green mojo

How'd it go, Mr Fury? I'm not hard to beat :-(

 

[Kraven]

My EIGHT plant harvest is coming in at a whopping FOUR OUNCES. Worse than I thought but not by much hahaha. There's guys here that get that ON A BRANCH!

Sopappy, you did that yourself, tis the fruit of your labor man, and I bet it is some epic smoke bro. Good job on getting from seed to baggie. Now we just get 8 z' off eight plants next time, an before I'm done with you you can pull 9 z's off one plant in a four plant set-up.

 

[sopappy]

Sopappy, you did that yourself, tis the fruit of your labor man, and I bet it is some epic smoke bro. Good job on getting from seed to baggie. Now we just get 8 z' off eight plants next time, an before I'm done with you you can pull 9 z's off one plant in a four plant set-up.

oh man, am I glad you popped by... I'm off to a better start this time; jump in any time if you spot something dumb. The bubblers are pretty good... I'm only running them for 5 minutes every half hour, adding H2O2 as I still see some brown again :-(

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[sopappy]

Hey Kraven, Doc, you lads around this morning? anybody? I did a rez change last night and ph is up (5.5 to 5.8) AND ppms are up (340 - 390).. how the hell does the ppm go up?
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one more.... should I leave those bubblers 7/24 or can i go 5 min every half hour?

 

[Kraven]

Whats the rez temp, that's an indicator that the your getting something in the rez. Look at the roots, are they nice and white, smell the water does it have a murky smell? If your feeding too light the pH will go everywhere while the ppm goes down, if your right then the pH will slowly ramp up from 5.7 -6.2 and the ppm will fall slowly, if your getting a spike in pH and the ppm is going up is the water level going down fast? Also less water = more nutes unless you top off daily, which you need to do.

 

[sopappy]

I'm using frozen cubes of solution to keep it between 18 - 22 (65 - 72) but it has crept higher for couple hours each night (75) <br /)
One has a half dozen nice white hairs about 3 inches long. Another has one long one with a little bit of brown at the net pot but white all the way down.
(I worry the bubbles rub the hairs against the net pot), the other 3 look good but no roots showing yet.<br /)
I have not had to add anything in about two weeks of this. I just figured, no roots, no level change, but with roots now, I'm amazed the ppm rose. The water level is exactly the same.
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and holy smokes, what took you so long hahaha.... I was researching myself after posting and found this: Why does PPM go up? Can only be one of two reasons - either water is leaving faster than the nutes (and you are not replacing it) or you are adding some other "salt" (like pH down).
<br /> I had to add pH to get it down to 5.5 for Pete's sake, pleasing these plants is like trying to please wimmen.

 

[Kraven]

Ahhh yea your pH will not stabilize till 24 hrs or so, so I always mix my nute solution the day before and pH then the next day I always have to make a minor adjustment, but at that point its pretty stable.

 

[sopappy]

Ahhh yea your pH will not stabilize till 24 hrs or so, so I always mix my nute solution the day before and pH then the next day I always have to make a minor adjustment, but at that point its pretty stable.

I read that somewhere else too. I guess I had to hear it twice, sheesh, thanks.

 

[Rosebud]

I think THG calls that a drift.

Baby mojo Sopappy!

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Yep, you're drifting. 5.5 - 5.8 with that ppm rise is most likely water evap or they are drinking. If there's no roots really in there, they are probably not drinking much. Also, yeah, like Kraven said....after you take water and put it to air, it takes about 24 hours to "settle" where it wants to be. So just factor that in...usually it will come out at, say, 5.5 and settle to around 5.8 just over night.

Personally, I have 0 experience putting little tiny things like that into the hydroton so soon. I just popped some seeds the other day (first time in over a year) and will be waiting until the cotyledons yellow and fall off, and I have a few sets of "true leaves" before I put my "core" (Sunshine Advanced Mix #4) into the mesh pot and surround it with hydroton. I think you're asking too much of that little tiny seed to spread her roots into such a VAST area so soon. You know?

I hope that all makes sense... for for peats sake, PM me so I get a notification that you would like someone to check this out, ya dig? :aok: :48:

I'm not on MP as much as I used to be, but I do still check everyday quickly...life has been coming at me at 100 mph, and yeah.

 

[sopappy]

Yep, you're drifting. 5.5 - 5.8 with that ppm rise is most likely water evap or they are drinking. If there's no roots really in there, they are probably not drinking much. Also, yeah, like Kraven said....after you take water and put it to air, it takes about 24 hours to &quot;settle&quot; where it wants to be. So just factor that in...usually it will come out at, say, 5.5 and settle to around 5.8 just over night. <br />
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===> I always have a big tub full of chlorinated water sitting with a stone in it but I haven't been letting mixtures sit for 24 hours. After K-tips this morning, I whipped up batches for nute change tomorrow. Both are at 5.5 and 80 ppms today.<br/>

Personally, I have 0 experience putting little tiny things like that into the hydroton so soon.<br/>

===> Kraven's method. I couldn't believe it when I saw the picture, I laughed out loud until I saw the pictures that followed it. I'm having a hard time with it though. How else do you do it? I can't see washing dirt off roots ??? and i like the idea of no transplanting<br/>

I just popped some seeds the other day (first time in over a year) and will be waiting until the cotyledons yellow and fall off<br/>

====> I've had plants with 6 nodes and cotyledons still looking just fine, then again, that's me and my processes <br/>

and I have a few sets of &quot;true leaves&quot; before I put my &quot;core&quot; (Sunshine Advanced Mix #4) into the mesh pot and surround it with hydroton. I think you're asking too much of that little tiny seed to spread her roots into such a VAST area so soon. You know? <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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I hope that all makes sense... for for peats sake, PM me so I get a notification that you would like someone to check this out, ya dig? <img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="images/smilies/aok.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Aok" smilieid="31" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="images/smilies/48.gif" border="0" alt="" title="share toke" smilieid="24" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I'm not on MP as much as I used to be, but I do still check everyday quickly...life has been coming at me at 100 mph, and yeah. <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" />

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A busy soldier is a happy soldier, I'm glad to hear you're staying ahead of it. There's several here who jump in when they see me going down for the 3rd time so I'm reluctant to PM people but I do appreciate the offer
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[sopappy]

I think THG calls that a drift.

Baby mojo Sopappy!

Yup, there's a drift you shoot for... 2 weeks now and I'm close but still no ramp. Thanks for the mojo, Rose, can't get enough of it here hahaha

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Kraven's method. I couldn't believe it when I saw the picture, I laughed out loud until I saw the pictures that followed it. I'm having a hard time with it though. How else do you do it? I can't see washing dirt off roots ??? and i like the idea of no transplanting

I pop my seeds between 2 plates and 2 moist paper towels. When they have 1/8" or so of tap root, I transplant into red solo cup full of Sunshine Advanced Mix #4. This is a soilless medium (no nute and works for hydro!). I've done ENTIRE crops with sunshine only... but there's no need to use that much. After your seedlings grows out of the red solo cup, and has nice established roots, you can transplant that into any other medium and situation you want, without issue. Like, you could transplant that into mesh pot and surround the "Sunshine Core" with Hydroton / Lava Rock / etc.. and absolutely none of the Sunshine CAN or WILL get into your hydro system

Also, the Sunshine is a perfect "starter" mix in my honest humble opinion. Coco coir, peat moss (slight amount), perlite, mycorrhizae

They make a perfect core :aok: Go thumb though the years of journals I put up. Take your time and just scroll through all the pics. You don't have to get caught up in the discussion, unless you want to.. but I think it would help ya.

I've had plants with 6 nodes and cotyledons still looking just fine, then again, that's me and my processes

Oh, I have as well! But I consider it "established" at that point, you know?

 

[sopappy]

trimmed good stuff, thanks. ....Like, you could transplant that into mesh pot and surround the &quot;Sunshine Core&quot; with Hydroton / Lava Rock / etc.. and absolutely none of the Sunshine CAN or WILL get into your hydro system

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how can that be?
I can get it here but I'm not following how it won't get in to the water.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

lol...by the time you transplant it, it's an entirely solid "core"...mostly just a root cube at that point. When you surround it on all sides by a bunch of Hydroton, there's no place for anything from the core to go. Not even a piece of perlite escapes. :aok:

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

oh man, am I glad you popped by... I'm off to a better start this time; jump in any time if you spot something dumb. The bubblers are pretty good... I'm only running them for 5 minutes every half hour, adding H2O2 as I still see some brown again :-(

The bubbles have to run all the time. Roots that sit in un-aerated water are subject to all kinds of bad things. I think I lost a plant because I had a foul up with an airstone and a plant sat in un-aerated water all night--the roots look icky.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Yep... much aeration is GOOD!
No / minimum aeration is BAD!

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

lol...by the time you transplant it, it's an entirely solid "core"...mostly just a root cube at that point. When you surround it on all sides by a bunch of Hydroton, there's no place for anything from the core to go. Not even a piece of perlite escapes. :aok:

I have done this in the past--I take a soil plant and let all the soil that comes off easily come off. Then I shove it into a net pot. If there is any space left, I add hydrotron. The first time I did this as my system does not recirc, I figured that as the dirt washed away into the res that I would add more hydrotron and change out the bucket more often. To my surprise, I got virtually no dirt in the nute solution. The net pot contained the soil and the roots grew through the net pot just as they did when I started them in a rapid rooter and hydrotron.

 

[sopappy]

lol...by the time you transplant it, it's an entirely solid &quot;core&quot;...mostly just a root cube at that point. When you surround it on all sides by a bunch of Hydroton, there's no place for anything from the core to go. Not even a piece of perlite escapes. :aok:

I NEVER would have thought that, it's on my shopping list and I can get it here too.

 

[sopappy]

The bubbles have to run all the time. Roots that sit in un-aerated water are subject to all kinds of bad things. I think I lost a plant because I had a foul up with an airstone and a plant sat in un-aerated water all night--the roots look icky.

Hi THG, It IS still recirculating 7/24 but is no longer a drip. I ran the drip hose down through the hydroton so it &quot;drips&quot; below the pot (so I still have the recirculation) I added bubblers in each pot, you can see the bubbles picture up there somewhere. Plenty o' bubbles so I was thinking maybe I don't have to run it all the time.