PurpleBerry

[bombbudpuffa]

Okay folks i'm going to try and mix some blue mystic and purple widow. Any suggestions on a method? Should I use the blue or purple for the father? When making hybrids should I back cross or just sex 2 strains and collect the seeds? I do not want to screw this up:cry: so any help/suggestions/comments welcome and appreciated!:ciao:

 

[hashpipe]

pr= as father, but either way it would be a good strain, good luck on the decision.ps: see what other pepl think first.:ccc:

 

[LaserKittensGoPewPew]

I've just barely gotten into reading up on this stuff, but I think to help make the strain more stable you should back cross it with the mother. I think some strains take years to create stable crosses.

edit: To create truly stable strains it will take years of backcrossing and selection.

As for who will be male and female...I can't say for sure. Personally I would just grow a bunch of each and start narrowing down the most vigorous males and females in the two bunches. Keep them seperated until the time comes of course. But I would select that way and then from that smaller group of top males and females I would select the even more vigorous ones and use those to do the cross.

Like HP said though, wait for someone with experience in doing this. LdyLunatic knows about this stuff. I'm sure E-man, TBG, StoneyBud, Hick know a lot too. Good luck dude. Sounds like a pretty awesome cross.

 

[Elephant Man]

Sounds tasty...I crossed BM with WW. The babies are tiny, but a few freinds are growing them out too. I used one WW male and my favorite BM fem as a clone...I was well familiar with her traits. I kept the male, but what happens next only time will tell....playing by ear.

If I had the room, I would clone all the moms and dads and cross them individually...some say the only way to properly pick a male, is to examine his progeny....but of course, this could be a mess in a closet.

Do you have particular traits in mind? Or is this your first grow of these strains? If you have grown them out, was there a lot of variance? I only popped one BM the first time, but I'm hoping the scond one I just popped is a male. I got ten phenos out of ten WW, so...I'm guessing they are F2's.

Give me a few more details on your intentions and I might be able to give a little advice or a few good links. Are you devoted to stabilizing?...or just having fun (like myself)? Since you mentioned backcrossing, I expect you will be keeping the males (or one)....throw some numbers at me and pehaps we can come up with a plan (if you want)....how many fems and males of each you have and stuff. I'm not pretending to have breeding figured out, but perhaps we can put our stoner heads together.

I am still far too busy trying many strains looking for the smoke I like to take on a 'stabilization', but I pollenate nearly everyone...just for fun (or in case).

 

[Ravishing_68]

I'm not pretending to have breeding figured out, but perhaps we can put our stoner heads together.

LOL, sounds like a joke... how many stoners does it take to ....??? I've noticed that if you get 4-6 stoner heads together you end up with MUSH. :rofl:

I'm waiting to see if I was successful with NLxBig Bud mom and DPxSk dad. So far everything is looking great, the pistil are swollen... just waiting.... hopefully will have a nice bunch of seed.

Good luck to ya mate. eace:

 

[bombbudpuffa]

Okay...i'm not trying to make up my own strain or anything, just do a lil crossing. I was just wondering if back crossing on top of the initial mix would make them even more predictable. For instance, I cross the BM and the PW. I find a short purp plant(example) but it just isn't blueberry enough for me. Would crossing it with the BM again give me a more BM taste? I'm not trying to create something I can post here later and say "hey, everyone this is my new strain!". I'm just wondering if I can get uniform(well, more of a uniform) results with the back cross. Hope everyone can understand my nonsensical ranting :rant: and noones like :huh: but if you are just remember...I don't know what i'm talking about.

 

[Elephant Man]

Okay...i'm not trying to make up my own strain or anything, just do a lil crossing. I was just wondering if back crossing on top of the initial mix would make them even more predictable. For instance, I cross the BM and the PW. I find a short purp plant(example) but it just isn't blueberry enough for me. Would crossing it with the BM again give me a more BM taste? I'm not trying to create something I can post here later and say "hey, everyone this is my new strain!". I'm just wondering if I can get uniform(well, more of a uniform) results with the back cross. Hope everyone can understand my nonsensical ranting :rant: and noones like :huh: but if you are just remember...I don't know what i'm talking about.

I'm right with you bro, basically 'hopeful crossing' more than actual breeding.

I think you are on the right track...but recessive and dominate traits is where it gets tricky, how many fem and male phenos do you have now? Or do you think they pretty much all look the same? I can give you a few ideas on picking a male, or...if you think you might be able, you can pollenate a single branch on each fem...mark each branch, and after cure of each seperately, choose the seeds to plant. THEN, based on those kids, go back and choose your male...after that...might have to experiment and see if a backcross is necessary. If your lucky I guess, maybe the best traits will be dominate. If you wind up with a totally different plant, go back and start over I guess...always have beans on hand. Just alot of growing plants over and over, and taking tons of notes. This is how I am planning to do it...when I pick a strain.

But...if you just pic one male...it gets alot less complicated.

 

[bombbudpuffa]

Yep...i'm going to pick one male. I'm not trying to get complicated with it. I want a purple pheno that tastes like blueberries so should I use the PW male for the purp or the BM male for the taste or should I sex four plants, BM(male)xPW(female), PW(male)xBM(female), to up my chances of getting the right pheno? This all seems like it could be very interesting. Right now I only have 2 PW and 3 BM in veg. The PW is about 8(can't remember exactly) days old and the BM is about a month old(failed hydro attempt relocated to soil, they look about 8 days old..lol). I'm thinking I should start 2 more PW and 1 more BM for this...would you start more than four apiece for this project? Thanks for all the help guys! Btw, doesn't purple berry sound so...cliche?!? What about Burple?!?

 

[Elephant Man]

Call it Bombud.

I like your idea...it could be done. You really only need to isolate the fem for a day or 2....sometimes, if he is a stud, you can get pistillate change in hours. A good washing up and she can go back in flower. It might not be a bad idea to space them a month apart...it will lessen the chances of an unintended cross-pollenation.

I can think of a few ways to go about it...if they are very different plants, you can easily make BM F2's too...after growing them out, you will know the difference.

I wanna post up some more ideas but my shoulder is killing me right now...lemme ponder this and smoke some meds and I will try and get more ideas up for you.

 

[bombbudpuffa]

Ok, thanks!

you can easily make BM F2's too

Yep, this might just help. Sex PWxPW and BMxBM 1st. I'd have alot more room to do what i'm trying to do, being had have loads of f2 beans!

Call it Bombud.

BombPurp, Purple Puffa...lol.