Island Of Misfits

[joeb631a]

I would have a chance with my swimmies

In other words what i measn as a mechanic its not easy with different makes and models and bad engineering.
Much less working on a car that was worked on before by some one who is nt that good.
I think with a repair shop you see and do almost everything.Some old and some butchered.
Where I would think cars brought into dealers are newer ,mantained,legit parts .
I thought you owned a shop.

as in any trade as a electrician I have seen some work done by "pros" to home owners
Some people are schittty and work the same.

 

[NewbOldster]

I would have a chance with my swimmies

In other words what i measn as a mechanic its not easy with different makes and models and bad engineering.
Much less working on a car that was worked on before by some one who is nt that good.
I think with a repair shop you see and do almost everything.Some old and some butchered.
Where I would think cars brought into dealers are newer ,mantained,legit parts .
I thought you owned a shop.

I started out at independent shops. Tried the dealership route, but to be honest I got incredibly bored doing somewhat repetitive work day in and day out on the same make of cars. That, and service writers/managers had a tendency to want techs to lick their boots, which means that if you don't do that, they would dole out **** work to you that didn't pay good, thereby controlling your salary in a way. I don't lick anybody's boots, so I went back to indy shops and stayed.

I trained and tooled myself art my own expense and worked on everything from Acura's to Yugo's. Yes...I even worked on a couple Yugos. LOL I had a chance to buy a shop from an employer once, but at the time I'd have had to use someone else's capital (familial), and the economy at the time led me to question my ability to repay the loan, so I stuck with working for someone else.

But I did OK. When I quit working, I had 5 weeks vacation/year and I was fixing cars that dealer techs couldn't. When I moved from Florida to Missouri, I sent ten resumes out beforehand and got ten job offers once I got here. There were no unions in Florida except Teamsters at the time, and a union dealership here offered me a job once. I almost took it, but my kid was just starting school and the dealer mechanics went on strike for about six weeks, as I recall. So again, I stuck with an indy shop. No pension, but mama's a number cruncher and I just gave her my check every week.

And now I'm retireded. Not to mention a tad mental. Mentally Retireded, if you will.

 

[RosterMan]

All the old school pride in ones work is gone.
Had a minor clog in a dedicated sink line that ran to a small pool that never needs pumping . I call a well known Big Named Plumber on long Island Rays Joe might know him.
He sent 2 young fellows over and they said we will need to power clear the line. I explained to them it was a grease clog that has happened once before and it was 4 foot from the vent stack outside house. They look and told me they needed to clear the whole line and I was wrong. I said OK how much?
The dudes looked at each other and then looked on their clipbord for prices , had a price list without doing any work.
The one dude says $900 I said no fing way, its right there 4 feet in.
The other dude says well how much would you pay us? I said maybe $200 they laughed, that is when I said get the Fook out of here , if it takes me all wee k I'll do it myself.
I make a powerful nozzle on a garden hose and blasted it open myself. Then some chems to degrease it and Hot flushes.
$900 dollars my azz, no wonder people hate these guys.

 

[RosterMan]

I started out at independent shops. Tried the dealership route, but to be honest I got incredibly bored doing somewhat repetitive work day in and day out on the same make of cars. That, and service writers/managers had a tendency to want techs to lick their boots, which means that if you don't do that, they would dole out **** work to you that didn't pay good, thereby controlling your salary in a way. I don't lick anybody's boots, so I went back to indy shops and stayed.

I trained and tooled myself art my own expense and worked on everything from Acura's to Yugo's. Yes...I even worked on a couple Yugos. LOL I had a chance to buy a shop from an employer once, but at the time I'd have had to use someone else's capital (familial), and the economy at the time led me to question my ability to repay the loan, so I stuck with working for someone else.

But I did OK. When I quit working, I had 5 weeks vacation/year and I was fixing cars that dealer techs couldn't. When I moved from Florida to Missouri, I sent ten resumes out beforehand and got ten job offers once I got here. There were no unions in Florida except Teamsters at the time, and a union dealership here offered me a job once. I almost took it, but my kid was just starting school and the dealer mechanics went on strike for about six weeks, as I recall. So again, I stuck with an indy shop. No pension, but mama's a number cruncher and I just gave her my check every week.

And now I'm retireded. Not to mention a tad mental. Mentally Retireded, if you will.

Man you got that right
That, and service writers/managers had a tendency to want techs to lick their boots, which means that if you don't do that, they would dole out **** work to you that didn't pay good, thereby controlling your salary in a way. I don't lick anybody's boots, so I went back to indy shops and stayed.
You were a peon to them LOL

 

[RosterMan]

It’s a picture book. You can probably handle it.

I thought it was A Cook Book
To Serve Man

 

[NewbOldster]

Man you got that right
That, and service writers/managers had a tendency to want techs to lick their boots, which means that if you don't do that, they would dole out **** work to you that didn't pay good, thereby controlling your salary in a way. I don't lick anybody's boots, so I went back to indy shops and stayed.
You were a peon to them LOL

Yep. NOPE! lol

 

[joeb631a]

I started out at independent shops. Tried the dealership route, but to be honest I got incredibly bored doing somewhat repetitive work day in and day out on the same make of cars. That, and service writers/managers had a tendency to want techs to lick their boots, which means that if you don't do that, they would dole out **** work to you that didn't pay good, thereby controlling your salary in a way. I don't lick anybody's boots, so I went back to indy shops and stayed.

I trained and tooled myself art my own expense and worked on everything from Acura's to Yugo's. Yes...I even worked on a couple Yugos. LOL I had a chance to buy a shop from an employer once, but at the time I'd have had to use someone else's capital (familial), and the economy at the time led me to question my ability to repay the loan, so I stuck with working for someone else.

But I did OK. When I quit working, I had 5 weeks vacation/year and I was fixing cars that dealer techs couldn't. When I moved from Florida to Missouri, I sent ten resumes out beforehand and got ten job offers once I got here. There were no unions in Florida except Teamsters at the time, and a union dealership here offered me a job once. I almost took it, but my kid was just starting school and the dealer mechanics went on strike for about six weeks, as I recall. So again, I stuck with an indy shop. No pension, but mama's a number cruncher and I just gave her my check every week.

And now I'm retireded. Not to mention a tad mental. Mentally Retireded, if you will.

Interesting to me to talk with someone who diagnoses.

 

[NewbOldster]

All the old school pride in ones work is gone.
Had a minor clog in a dedicated sink line that ran to a small pool that never needs pumping . I call a well known Big Named Plumber on long Island Rays Joe might know him.
He sent 2 young fellows over and they said we will need to power clear the line. I explained to them it was a grease clog that has happened once before and it was 4 foot from the vent stack outside house. They look and told me they needed to clear the whole line and I was wrong. I said OK how much?
The dudes looked at each other and then looked on their clipbord for prices , had a price list without doing any work.
The one dude says $900 I said no fing way, its right there 4 feet in.
The other dude says well how much would you pay us? I said maybe $200 they laughed, that is when I said get the Fook out of here , if it takes me all wee k I'll do it myself.
I make a powerful nozzle on a garden hose and blasted it open myself. Then some chems to degrease it and Hot flushes.
$900 dollars my azz, no wonder people hate these guys.

I had to pay 600 bucks for a plumber to take out my toilet and unclog the main line. They won't get up on the roof anymore and go through the vent, and I damn sure ain't gettin' up on no roof again. I can't hardly hold myself upright when I'm on the ground, and my acrophobia is only getting worse as I get along in years. I literally need to hold on to something to get up on a two or three foot step stool so I can get the pancake mix out of the cupboard. lol

 

[boo]

My air conditioning man’s name is HUNG, he’s Vietnamese but he’s got a great personality. I’m having a hard time keeping him quiet. He asked me to make sure I kept Ivan out on the back porch and Dutch as well… if all goes well, and I don’t get into an argument and throw him off the property today I should have my tent up and running…

 

[RosterMan]

I had to pay 600 bucks for a plumber to take out my toilet and unclog the main line. They won't get up on the roof anymore and go through the vent, and I damn sure ain't gettin' up on no roof again. I can't hardly hold myself upright when I'm on the ground, and my acrophobia is only getting worse as I get along in years. I literally need to hold on to something to get up on a two or three foot step stool so I can get the pancake mix out of the cupboard. lol

LOL
These kids the company sent would not even look at the pipe in my crawl space they were afraid of the spider LOL
Forget about them going on a roof

 

[joeb631a]

All the old school pride in ones work is gone.
Had a minor clog in a dedicated sink line that ran to a small pool that never needs pumping . I call a well known Big Named Plumber on long Island Rays Joe might know him.
He sent 2 young fellows over and they said we will need to power clear the line. I explained to them it was a grease clog that has happened once before and it was 4 foot from the vent stack outside house. They look and told me they needed to clear the whole line and I was wrong. I said OK how much?
The dudes looked at each other and then looked on their clipbord for prices , had a price list without doing any work.
The one dude says $900 I said no fing way, its right there 4 feet in.
The other dude says well how much would you pay us? I said maybe $200 they laughed, that is when I said get the Fook out of here , if it takes me all wee k I'll do it myself.
I make a powerful nozzle on a garden hose and blasted it open myself. Then some chems to degrease it and Hot flushes.
$900 dollars my azz, no wonder people hate these guys.

I know of Long Island Ray.
I think the best thing he does is advertise.
My Buddy has a 8k commercial building one side shipping one production .
He had a clog in a line and really from the hand washing sink and the years of pumice to clean hands.
He called a rotor rooter kinda guy and they sent 2 guys.
Spent 3 hours there .NFG Next day they send 2 guys more experienced commercially and were able to spot a problem fitting clog ,located it put a clean out and a access panel.
My buddy balked at the number because clearly the first two guys were more residential.
The number my buddy called was almost like a broker who has people he can call and make $

 

[joeb631a]

LOL
These kids the company sent would not even look at the pipe in my crawl space they were afraid of the spider LOL
Forget about them going on a roof

Funny you say crawl spaces.
I have been in some bad ones,but in some states im sure there are snakes ,bad *** spiders ,and other things that bite .
At least Long Island dosent have much that can kill

 

[RosterMan]

I know of Long Island Ray.
I think the best thing he does is advertise.
My Buddy has a 8k commercial building one side shipping one production .
He had a clog in a line and really from the hand washing sink and the years of pumice to clean hands.
He called a rotor rooter kinda guy and they sent 2 guys.
Spent 3 hours there .NFG Next day they send 2 guys more experienced commercially and were able to spot a problem fitting clog ,located it put a clean out and a access panel.
My buddy balked at the number because clearly the first two guys were more residential.
The number my buddy called was almost like a broker who has people he can call and make $

Nailed it That was quite a few yrs back Glad I left

 

[RosterMan]

Funny you say crawl spaces.
I have been in some bad ones,but in some states im sure there are snakes ,bad *** spiders ,and other things that bite .
At least Long Island dosent have much that can kill

Yes Other than the owner

 

[NewbOldster]

Interesting to me to talk with someone who diagnoses.

Another benefit of working in indy shops. I always had one-to-one communication with the customer. So much miscommunication can occur between the time a customer makes an appointment and it gets to the guy in the bay who's supposed to fix that intermittent huck-a-buck or odd characteristic their car has.

Service writers and managers may not be (or maybe even ever have been) a mechanic, so they don't know how to get the info out of the driver. I nearly always test drove a vehicle with the customer when they had an oddball symptom or a specific complaint. Less time and money wasted. I never was good at throwing parts at a car to try to fix it.

Instead of simply replacing that failed wheel bearing (again), I wanted to find the root cause, such as the bad ground wire connection that caused it. (Yes, that was a thing)

 

[RosterMan]

May be moving again
I have a VPN and keep it as The same it has always been before I got it

 

[RosterMan]

Another benefit of working in indy shops. I always had one-to-one communication with the customer. So much miscommunication can occur between the time a customer makes an appointment and it gets to the guy in the bay who's supposed to fix that intermittent huck-a-buck or odd characteristic their car has.

Service writers and managers may not be (or maybe even ever have been) a mechanic, so they don't know how to get the info out of the driver. I nearly always test drove a vehicle with the customer when they had an oddball symptom or a specific complaint. Less time and money wasted. I never was good at throwing parts at a car to try to fix it.

Instead of simply replacing that failed wheel bearing (again), I wanted to find the root cause, such as the bad ground wire connection that caused it. (Yes, that was a thing)

Bet you did not last long there LOL
*******s

 

[joeb631a]

Another benefit of working in indy shops. I always had one-to-one communication with the customer. So much miscommunication can occur between the time a customer makes an appointment and it gets to the guy in the bay who's supposed to fix that intermittent huck-a-buck or odd characteristic their car has.

Service writers and managers may not be (or maybe even ever have been) a mechanic, so they don't know how to get the info out of the driver. I nearly always test drove a vehicle with the customer when they had an oddball symptom or a specific complaint. Less time and money wasted. I never was good at throwing parts at a car to try to fix it.

Instead of simply replacing that failed wheel bearing (again), I wanted to find the root cause, such as the bad ground wire connection that caused it. (Yes, that was a thing)

I understand ,BUT Some times you cant talk a hour to a customer who likes to talk.
Even as his brother ,I would not visit him or bring him or his son lunch .
they were busy.
I always came in at the end of the day and he would stay late and we would bololschit.
I agree with you ,but after you're done explaining and Im done asking .
Go home ,get home with out me !

 

[joeb631a]

May be moving again
I have a VPN and keep it as The same it has always been before I got it

where you going

 

[pute]

I worked at car dealerships all my life. And I know exactly how the system works. But before I chime in you have to go through my Associate.....ASK ROSTER!