First 1000 Watt Indoor Cali Medical Op

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When should i harvest them??

  • mostly clear trichomes??

  • mostly milky trichomes??

  • milky and amber trichomes??

  • all amber trichomes??


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DirtySouth said:
I'm just sayin, where and when.

first of all i wasnt even talking to you, i thought u left my journal for good, man was i wrong!!!!!

you in nor cal near sac??????
 
Hamster Lewis said:
Everyone please leave Albino alone...he obviously knows way more then all of us combined and we are clearly just jealous....Albino please continue to teach us even though we are unworthy...and please keep PM ing me telling me I don't know anything about growing...

are you done yet rat????
 
Time4Plan-B said:
shut up greenfingers youre boring us all

Time4Plan-B

scooter i thought u were leaving to go study and i thought u were blocking me, wat happened???? am i that damn sexy or wat?? and its my journal homeboy your the one thats boring me along with ur buddies so get out!
 
when the hell did i say i know it all, seriously bro just shut up or get out, this is a growing forum, not no jerry springer show ho. im learning just like you, so let me learn and do what i do and u stick to doing watever u do, cuz seriosuly im way to old and way to mature to be arguing over the net, if ur not in cali then we dont have nothing to talk about, peace, and after this dont trip i cant read wat u type im blocking you since ur obviously some immature kid, peace
 
Seems u got a lil slammed, just take it with a grain of salt man.

But, I gotta tell ya man, I watched ur vid,and though u did get some bud, it is only a fraction of the potential. Your plants burned up man, and it looks like Nuit issues, but could be heat.
Don't flip out man, it is just obvious that the plants are not the picture of health. I think if you adjusted a few things, you could really blow out some great herb.

Was your room temp ok for the entire grow? If so, you are definatly overfeeding man.
 
Just thought I'd cast my line into this stormy sea.Albino,if you are happy with what you are growing,I say good for you.Personally I think anybody can grow a plant.And if they only get a joint at harvest,I say good for them.Everyone gets different amounts off X number of plants.Everyone has different methods,habits,mixes,etc.I think those 40+ reputable growers might have been using manners in thier replies,which is also needed here I think.Seems to me you came through the door like a peacock with his tail all spread out wide saying"look at me,see what I can do".I think you forgot about the "peckin order",and manners.Now if you came in like "hey guys this is my first time growing,tell me what you think." You probaly would have gotten the same response:D and probaly acted as you did so basically live with it.I know,I know I'll show myself out.
 
AlbinoDanko12GA said:
are you done yet rat????

I dunno..are you done PM'ing me?

AlbinoDanko12GA said:
and sorry dirty nig south but i cut 3 plants and averaged 24 grams a piece! so im about already over the 2-3 0Z mark! stop hating and go do some reasearch and mess with your own crop and keep ur comments to ur self! YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW ****!!!!!!!!!! and that goes for the both of you newbs!!!!!!!
This is were you used a racial epithet and then bragged about averaging 24 grams per plant...I averaged more then that off of my Auto Dwarfs last grow... but you don't see me running around telling the world how great I am do you?...You PM'd me to tell me I don't know crap...I didn't PM you...you posted a grow journal with a poll on it... sounds like you wanted input?? Then when we do gve input you get your panties all up in a bunch and go ballistic on anyone who does not see how brilliant and talented a grower you (think you) are...

Why don't you start another GJ titled "This is the I am so awesome Grow Journal and if you do not agree don't post in it..." Just come in and stroke my ego... it is what I am really here for any how....

Do me a favor and do not PM me anymore.... It seems you did the same amount of research on me as you did on growing because in your PM you told me to stop wasting my time with the "7 inch autos and grow real plants"...well if you had clicked on my 1st grow you wld hve seen I hve already done that and gotten pretty good results too...I got a hell of a lot more then 24 grams per plant..that's for sure...

And since I did not ask you to PM me there is no reason for it to be private...so here it is for everyone to enjoy..

AlbinoDanko12GA said:
U OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING! WE'LL SEE WAT I GET IN A 10X10 WITH NO WINDOWS, CO2, AC, AND 4 1000'S WITH 100 BABIES! SAY WAT U WANT BUT FOR A FIRST TIMER I PULLED IT OFF PRETTY GOOD! U OBVIOSULY DONT KNOW WAT 1/2 GRAM PER LIGHT MEANS HAAAAA??? BUST OUT YOUR CALCULATER, SO CHECK OUT MY JOURNAL IN 2 MONTHS TO SEE MY HARVEST:D

MAYBE IT WILL MAKE U WANNA UPGRADE AND STOP MESSING WITH THOSE 7 INCH BABIES UR GROWING AND MOVE ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS

Peace...let me know when your grow book comes out....I will make sure to not buy it....:)
 
NorCalHal said:
Seems u got a lil slammed, just take it with a grain of salt man.

But, I gotta tell ya man, I watched ur vid,and though u did get some bud, it is only a fraction of the potential. Your plants burned up man, and it looks like Nuit issues, but could be heat.
Don't flip out man, it is just obvious that the plants are not the picture of health. I think if you adjusted a few things, you could really blow out some great herb.

Was your room temp ok for the entire grow? If so, you are definatly overfeeding man.

my room was hott for sometime (90 - 95). the 6th week i bought a 12,000 btu portable ac! i barely gave them nutes, when i did i only gave them 1 teaspoon per gallon, the bottle said 6 teaspoons! my scheldule was water, water, feed (1 teaspoon of pura vida bloom) i still have a whole bottle pretty much! it could probally be the thrips and spider mites! wat u think??????? im building a 10x20 bedroom/growroom so im just gonna start new with all new clones that are healthy and use my azatrol to prevent them! i got infested and tried to kill them after that, thats where i messed up at
 
Hamster Lewis said:
I dunno..are you done PM'ing me?

dude im not even gonna waste my time copying and pasting wat u said to me loser, catch ya later i hit the ignore button on ya, so u might as well just stay out here, i dont want to hear your 2 cents, ill listen to everyone else and take there knowledge in and keep on learning! u just came off on me wrong in the beginng along with ds and time4plan-b see ya guys later
 
oldsman said:
Just thought I'd cast my line into this stormy sea.Albino,if you are happy with what you are growing,I say good for you.Personally I think anybody can grow a plant.And if they only get a joint at harvest,I say good for them.Everyone gets different amounts off X number of plants.Everyone has different methods,habits,mixes,etc.I think those 40+ reputable growers might have been using manners in thier replies,which is also needed here I think.Seems to me you came through the door like a peacock with his tail all spread out wide saying"look at me,see what I can do".I think you forgot about the "peckin order",and manners.Now if you came in like "hey guys this is my first time growing,tell me what you think." You probaly would have gotten the same response:D and probaly acted as you did so basically live with it.I know,I know I'll show myself out.

YES ANYONE CAN GROW A WEED!!! BUT THERES ALWAYS ROOM TO IMPROVE! some of the guys jsut came off to me a lil hard, and so i got mad about it, im over it thoguh im ignoring those 3 guys! ill build my rep up! ya i guess i should of had more leafs on those damn things! ya im just happy i had a harvest but now its time to do some more homework and see wat went wrong! i def have a pest problem but cant do nothing about it, i tried everything in the book (neem oil, alcohol/water mix, dish soap, foxfarm no bug me, fogger, azatrol) and i still have these things, so hopefully when im done framing my room up ill start fresh with no bugs and no plants with bugs and ill use my azatrol as a preventative! maybe i needed to give more bloom nutes????? it def was hott but i ended up getting a ac in week 6 of flower! sorry if i came off wrong to some of you guys but some of those dudes just made me mad! im willing to listen adn learn from all you, that is why i signed up for this forum!
 
What nuit brand are you usuing?

Controlling the spider mites is critical man. Ensure that you use the Azetrol every 3-4 days for a couple of weeks while you are vegging. Spidermites lay thousands of eggs and they mature and hatch every 3-4 days.

Spidermites will eat your leaves with the quickness, and high heat will make them thrive.

So, start over with your new room. Treat your plants with the azetrol like clock work.

The next big thing will be getting a good nuit regimine for you, so let us know what nuits you plan to use, and maybe what strain you are thinking of running.
 
AlbinoDanko12GA said:
ya i guess i should of had more leafs on those damn things! ya im just happy i had a harvest but now its time to do some more homework and see wat went wrong! i im willing to listen adn learn from all you, that is why i signed up for this forum!
Seems like the leaf thing is what got all this started.Most of us know fan leaves will be used up and die but I don't think it is supposed to be that dramatic is what the guys were saying to start with then it went crazy from there.I hear you about just being happy with a harvest of any amount.I am close to harvesting my first plant I've ever grown and if I get 10-15g:hubba: I will be happy.Not much but still something to feel good about knowing it will get better as long as I listen,learn and apply correctly.These guys/girls will still help because they are growers and that's what this is all about.I think you need to keep it simple though.100 babies is a lot for anybody to manage.Keep it small but well managed.:D
 
AlbinoDanko12GA said:
now stop all your hating or get out of my thread! im here to talk about cannabis not all ur guys immature ********! for the last time..............plants will use up all the nutes in soil and then go to the leafs and suck all the nutes out of them in the last 2 weeks while ur giveing them water and will start to die off! and i said 40+rep growers liked my vids and my setup!!! DID I SAY I WAS THE NEXT CERVATES?????? if u were in cali i would show u the finished product, for my first time i would say its pretty dank, i made a video last night for all you OTHER guys, check it out and dont hate....:watchplant:

heres a few pics too

Hi, I'm going to be as nice as possible. First most here give constructive criticism, we don't hate. It is easy to take the type written word and read things not intended into it. There are many experienced growers here, many that have done their research and have grown for years.

You are right about fan leaves dying off. It is good sometimes to remove bottom dead ones to allow air up into the plant...but...for the most part it's best to let nature take it's course and let them get used up and fall off. Please take this as positive advise, not hating. Your plants look like they have been stripped of most of their leaves. This will diminish your bud growth and give you smaller buds. They may seem OK to you but I like growing buds the size of my arm, not my hand.

Just for an experiment on your next grow leave the leaves alone and let the plant run it's course and you can make your own evaluation then. Again, just offering some well founded advise not in any type of mean way...constructive criticism. That's why we are here at this site. One more thing...please be civil to everyone here, that is part of what makes this site different from the others. In the name of Rodney King..."Why can't we all just get along?" :p

I think it was Bombbudpuffa? that said he would mix an aspirin in with his water sometimes to control the bugs and it works, it's somewhere on this site. Good luck and I hope you enjoy your rewards of the grow and even better on the next one...Also about the nutes. It is wise to start out very slow as you did, one teaspoon instead of 6, then slowly increase over time. A pH/tds/ppm meter is also handy and really a must. :p


PS Here's the link on aspirin.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41583&highlight=aspirin
 
NorCalHal said:
What nuit brand are you usuing?

Controlling the spider mites is critical man. Ensure that you use the Azetrol every 3-4 days for a couple of weeks while you are vegging. Spidermites lay thousands of eggs and they mature and hatch every 3-4 days.

Spidermites will eat your leaves with the quickness, and high heat will make them thrive.

So, start over with your new room. Treat your plants with the azetrol like clock work.

The next big thing will be getting a good nuit regimine for you, so let us know what nuits you plan to use, and maybe what strain you are thinking of running.

well after i finish drywalling and hooking everything up in my new room im gonna go to a cannabis club in san fransisco where i know reliable clones are at and get all purp and kush strains! im using pura vida grow and bloom! i also have purple maxx and gravity as a flowering additive! and bat guana that i lay on my top soil! i also have ff grow big but i dont use it! should i be mixing brands of different nutes??? cuz some are devrived from all kinds of different stuff. i plan on using floranova next grow! im not sure though

im gonna use that azatrol every 3-5 days! im starting of with healthy plants when im done building though! ill prob get rid of these or something
 
oldsman said:
Seems like the leaf thing is what got all this started.Most of us know fan leaves will be used up and die but I don't think it is supposed to be that dramatic is what the guys were saying to start with then it went crazy from there.I hear you about just being happy with a harvest of any amount.I am close to harvesting my first plant I've ever grown and if I get 10-15g:hubba: I will be happy.Not much but still something to feel good about knowing it will get better as long as I listen,learn and apply correctly.These guys/girls will still help because they are growers and that's what this is all about.I think you need to keep it simple though.100 babies is a lot for anybody to manage.Keep it small but well managed.:D

ya i still need to learn some stuff and im gonna pick up a grow book to read up on! i plan on doing like 80 - 100 vegged no taller than 12"! im kinda iffy on the c02 thing though. we'll see, i should have my ballasts soon
 
The New Girl said:
Hi, I'm going to be as nice as possible. First most here give constructive criticism, we don't hate. It is easy to take the type written word and read things not intended into it. There are many experienced growers here, many that have done their research and have grown for years.

You are right about fan leaves dying off. It is good sometimes to remove bottom dead ones to allow air up into the plant...but...for the most part it's best to let nature take it's course and let them get used up and fall off. Please take this as positive advise, not hating. Your plants look like they have been stripped of most of their leaves. This will diminish your bud growth and give you smaller buds. They may seem OK to you but I like growing buds the size of my arm, not my hand.

Just for an experiment on your next grow leave the leaves alone and let the plant run it's course and you can make your own evaluation then. Again, just offering some well founded advise not in any type of mean way...constructive criticism. That's why we are here at this site. One more thing...please be civil to everyone here, that is part of what makes this site different from the others. In the name of Rodney King..."Why can't we all just get along?" :p

I think it was Bombbudpuffa? that said he would mix an aspirin in with his water sometimes to control the bugs and it works, it's somewhere on this site. Good luck and I hope you enjoy your rewards of the grow and even better on the next one...Also about the nutes. It is wise to start out very slow as you did, one teaspoon instead of 6, then slowly increase over time. A pH/tds/ppm meter is also handy and really a must. :p


PS Here's the link on aspirin.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41583&highlight=aspirin

ya im not noticing and growth anymore with the buds! i need more leafs on them lol!!!!! i know wat u guys mean now!

next grow im starting off fresh with new healthy cuts and im gonna use azatrol for a preventative! i wont let these bugs get my stash again!

ya ill leave the leafs on, i think somethign might of went wrong thoguh for all of mine to just die and fall off! im not sure thoguh im a newb and im still learning!
 
In addition to using the Azetrol you probably want to disinfect all walls, grow gear before you start again. imo its better to stick with one simple nute mix at less than full strength to start, then if things go well you can mess around trying different additives.

If you're planning more than 1-2 1000W Co2 is the way to go, but it wont help at all if temps aren't in check. If you already have a big AC fine, but keep in mind its cheaper to run a couple 12" can fans to control heat than to run a 12,000 btu AC.

and im saying this from experience, growing 80-100 small plants is alot more trouble than vegging longer with less plants. i started with 144 plants under 8000W vegged a short time, now i run 72 plants under 8000W vegged 4-6 weeks. all in all, less work, more bud

and if you're already headed to SF for clones go to harborside and blue sky in oakland, both have great clones, but ya gotta be at blue sky by 6 or 7am to have a decent place in line. ya got some work to do to improve the health and yield of your plants, but just read thru all the stickies here on MP that will point you in the right direction. good luck with the next grow
 
I didn't see you mention your pH or PPMs anywhere here. If your pH is not on, it can cause all kinds of problems, like nute lock out, your leaves falling off, and small bud growth.
 
ive never tested ppm, isnt that important for hydro???? i tested my ph of my water and its around 6.3 - 6.7 it wasnt clear though cuz i used a pool tester strip, i will buy a digi soon enough! also i buy purified water, do i need to add calmag to that????

ya im gonna do alot of more research cuz i have about a month before everything needs to start up again! before i take anything to my new house should i 50%water/50% bleach everything (fans, hood, ducting, tent, my whole bedroom where my furniture and bed is since all that is going to the new house??????) i def want to get everything in check before i bring everything over there, im gonna try and be mite free!

damn 8000 watts is nice, u pull off a big harvest huh! ill only be at 3 or 4 1000's with the portable ac running 24/7! the outside temp here is hott (95 - 105)! so i dont think some inlines would cut it! thats why i bought my ac a couple months ago. so wats 72 plants, 9 plants per light or so??? how do u cool your room?
 
AlbinoDanko12GA said:
ive never tested ppm, isnt that important for hydro???? i tested my ph of my water and its around 6.3 - 6.7 it wasnt clear though cuz i used a pool tester strip, i will buy a digi soon enough! also i buy purified water, do i need to add calmag to that????

the outside temp here is hott (95 - 105)! so i dont think some inlines would cut it! thats why i bought my ac a couple months ago. so wats 72 plants, 9 plants per light or so??? how do u cool your room?

very important, get a digital pH meter, and a digital ppm meter, will be the best investment you can make. outside temps are similar in my area, however i run the lights at night when temp are usually below 80. I use 12" can fans and 12" inline fans to cool the lights (fewer large fans is more efficient than several smaller inlines). I have a 12,000 btu AC which is only neccessary to remove the heat created by the propane Co2 gen and the dehumidifer. If I was using an open system without Co2 the AC would not be needed.
 

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