Dreaming Big 2.0

[MtnStew]

So out of nowhere I noticed that she's reverted back to 3 leaf sets. Overall looks healthy but all new growth accept the main colas have 3 leaf sets established and forming. Cola has 4 leaf sets. The 5s are old growth previous to supercropping.
I read this can be due to change in light schedule which I have been at 24/0 for over a month since we got it. We did just turn them up last week from 40% to 50% for a few days and settled at 60% which gave us 40 DLI for that plant is week 5-6.
Has anyone experienced this. I wouldn't have even noticed it if I didn't take a dozen leaves off to open up light to bud site development areas.

It still looks healthy so I'm not overly concerned.

 

[MtnStew]

It sat at 58% most of the day yesterday. We moved the humidifier and dehumidifier around. But our temps are dropping again which is pulling us out of the ideal VPD range. I'll head back over there this morning and try to fix that.

 

[MtnStew]

Red line, 5:45AM "Steve" moves the dehumidifier to the center of the current grow area. He also turned the humidifier knob down from 75% to 25%. (Not smart humidifier, it's a stupid one with no control or sensors for RH.)

Yellow line, 10:35AM I enter with a second box fan and a heater with auto settings. Heater gets set to 71°F and I waited for it to turn off before leaving to verify autonomy. Kicks back off at 73° near the heater which is on the opposite side of the grow room from the plants. I refilled the humidifier and turned it up to 50%.

Heater has kicked back on twice since I left. Should be back on again very soon. Each time it drops the humidity down about 5-10% but still keeps the VPD within range for veg.

 

[MtnStew]

I'm really hoping that the proof is enough to convince "STEVE" that I know what I'm doing.. I may be new to his setup but I know how to dial in a room.
The red line is my adjustments yesterday. Added a heater set to 71°F, added a second box fan and turned up the first to move more air to even the temp out across the whole room, and turned the humidifier down slightly.
Yellow line is him getting home, turning the heater up to 73°F, turned the second fan off and the other down from 3 to 1.
Red line is approximately 12 hours from 10:30am to 10:30pm. Yellow line is overnight up until current time of day here.

Red line is 100% within ideal VPD the whole time. Dropped to the bottom and rose to the top of veg VPD but always in range.
His adjustments didn't help maintain the balance.
He woke up and checked the app. And sure enough, "I'm putting everything back the way you had it yesterday. Come over later and fix it if you want to. Not sure i can even get it set as close as you did yesterday"

Looking like we're transplanting the remaining 8 plants tonight as well. 7 gallon for autos and 3 gallon for photos. I'll catch you all tonight with an update.

 

[Hippie420]

Two cooks in the same kitchen never work out.

 

[MtnStew]

Two cooks in the same kitchen never work out.

He called me again and said "Please just come fix it. I'll leave it alone unless you ask me to do something."
We went 12 hours with only a low CO² alarm in the trolmaster system. Then 8 alarms for high humidity overnight. He understands now.

 

[KGB]

Not trying to interfere but might I offer a suggestion?

Thats a concrete floor in the winter. Have you considered insulating the floor? In your case I would use 1 1/2 to 2 inch dense foam insulation. Should give you an r-18 rating then put crap flooring on top where you walk so you don’t crush the foam.

The colder it is the more that concrete will sweat

Just my opinion

 

[greenmobster440]

So out of nowhere I noticed that she's reverted back to 3 leaf sets. Overall looks healthy but all new growth accept the main colas have 3 leaf sets established and forming. Cola has 4 leaf sets. The 5s are old growth previous to supercropping.
I read this can be due to change in light schedule which I have been at 24/0 for over a month since we got it. We did just turn them up last week from 40% to 50% for a few days and settled at 60% which gave us 40 DLI for that plant is week 5-6.
Has anyone experienced this. I wouldn't have even noticed it if I didn't take a dozen leaves off to open up light to bud site development areas.View attachment 367565View attachment 367566View attachment 367567View attachment 367568View attachment 367569
It still looks healthy so I'm not overly concerned.

She looks great. Ya did a nice job coaxing out her branches. I think it'll kick some normal leaf soon. It's just getting cracked back up.