Dreaming Big 2.0

[MtnStew]

Quick update. I'll get more tonight when I go back. Didn't have much time to stay because of work and life. But I'll be going back there around 10pm to take some early cuttings off the SkunkOG. Got a friend in need of clones so time to break out the cloner and get started early for him.
Defoliation of damaged leaves done by my grow partner "Steve". I'll call him Steve from now on, until he eventually joins us here on MP.

She is looking SOO much healthier now.

The 3 Lemon Lime Sherbert are doing better than the rest of the seeds we put into soil.

Picante poked through(Right)
One of the AutoSeeds Dreamberry also poked through the surface(left)

French Macaroon and one other were also up but I had very limited time this morning so I will have to get over there again tonight.

We are probably going to stretch veg time by a couple months. Let some of these seedlings grow before some HST hits the room.
Were removing the netting frame tonight and will be using floaters thanks to the success I've seen greenmobster440 have with them.
Pineapple express is still not sprouting. Might have to get another seed going sooner than expected if I don't see leaves in the next couple days.
Gonna bring a heating pad down for the tray of seedlings tonight. Hopefully speed this up a bit.
I'll have another update late this evening.

 

[MtnStew]

So that fkr fell asleep on me. Guess I'll have to wake him up at 5am to get some stuff done down in the grow room.
Here's what's been going through my head all day...
I'm gonna lay down the SkunkOG instead of taking cuttings right now. Get her to bush out a little and then set up the tent and cloner.
We have plenty of time before we flip so I have no issues about filling the whole space.
Ordered a 5 pack of 20 gallon soft pots for the heaviest yielders. Looking to hit the outdoor estimates indoors on up to 5 plants. 4 of them I have yet to germ but will get those started up in another week or two.

G13 seeds Pineapple Express can yield 950g/plant outdoors
G13 seeds Northern Lights x Skunk 900g/plant outdoors
G13 seeds OG13 900g/plant outdoors
Blimburn seeds Green Crack 800g/plant outdoors

Going to pop 2 NLxS and a single OG13 along with a second PE in the coming weeks. That gets me to 5 heavy yielding plants for those 20 gallon pots.
I am expecting a minimum 3-4 month veg and lots of heavy training on those. I would like to go longer in veg if possible but that will depend on the yield of the 5 autos.
We're down to 1.5lbs of smoke for the rest of this grow. And it's gonna be a long one.
Floaters will definitely make it all so much more manageable. Especially in 20gallon pots.
4'x4' section for each plant.
Was informed today we have a total of 11 600w LEDs to use. Only 7 hanging. I thought there were only 10 but he has another that hasn't even been removed from the box yet.
This will allow for 2 in the 8x4 and 9 in the room.
Hopefully by the morning I will see more sprouts without my heating pad being required. I really wanted to set that up tonight to help them take off. Nothing I can do about it now.
I need to get this soon...
The old one stopped working and I want to save the hassle of turning the lights up or down myself. I will probably go with the cheap $50 par meter first and get the TrolMaster one when taxes roll in.

I'll be back in the AM with more.

 

[WeedHopper]

 

[MtnStew]

Yeah he was still sleeping... again. And then I went at 7 and he was gone. I'll be by there later today. Have some alternator issues today and he's got a heated garage i can use to replace it.

 

[MtnStew]

Hooray, time for another update.
Alternator shot.
Update over.
Seriously though.
SkunkOG pinched above 3rd node. Dropped her down to 90°. Brought the light above her to 55% power 40 DLI reading on the app. It's slightly high for week 3 but I think it was at least a week old when we got it so I'm jumping ahead a bit on the DLI chart.
Filling the co2 tanks in a week or 2 to allow for the 55 DLI high growth of the charts. 7 weeks at 55 for the autos should allow for some serious veg explosions on some of the supercropped plants were working towards.

I originally wanted to go final pot after solo cups but 20 gallon from solo would waste a lot of electricity. One light per 6"-12" plant in a 36" wide pot is not going to keep costs down.
So were going to use 3 gallon and 7 gallon pots for now. 3 gallon for the photos as a transition pot before final and 7 for the autos as their final pot.
some photos are going to be finished out in 10 gallon. 3-5 in 20s with major supercropping under a floater.
To assist further in the floater experiment, I'll be making 12"², 24"², and 48"² floaters for this crop. 48s will be for the 20g pots.
If GM is pulling 8oz per 22" screen, I should have the potential to 4x in a 48" with a very healthy heavy yielder.. as long as I can fill said screen in a 7-8 week long veg plus the 12/12 stretch. The last time I supercropped I didn't use a screen or net. This time I want a more even canopy while also increasing yield. Anything over 20 oz a plant will be nearly double the indoor estimates from the seedbank for a m² scrog/sog. Should be interesting to see what the end result is. I've done months of training in the past but always free floating and never under a screen. I want to be able to control the stretch without pinning everything down and keeping everything mobile, so GM's floaters are a must in this situation.

Feel free to answer this one question...
What was your largest yield indoors for a single plant?

Before

After

Going back at 8-9am to swap out the alternator. Vehicle barely made it there and it was not coming home. His garage is empty, we got 2"-4" of rain expected tomorrow and my garage has a civic rebuild in it. 4" that's alot right ladies? Average then? No?

I'll get a pic of her bounce back in the AM. She still hadn't turned up after an hour so I didn't have time to catch it tonight.

One dreamberry is still not releasing its shell. Tap root is locked down so I expect to see her sprouted by tomorrow with the rest.
One Plushberry and the Honeycomb solo cups got tossed. Couldn't handle the 60° temps in there the last week.. so they didn't sprout. That leaves us with 13 plants right now. 11 seedlings, 1 more hopefully tomorrow and the clone.
Here's the sprouts, some of which are barely popping up, but they aren't important yet so thumbnails it is.


Definitely need to get the heater and humidifier down these ASAP. I'll bring the heating pad tomorrow too. Forgot it today.

Staring at seedlings isn't as mesmerizing as trichs but soon enough we'll have some autos going strong.
Plan for the autos is, week 3 of veg I'll lay them down, by week 4 or 5 I should have enough of a base for a floater. Continue pulling down and out until week 9 or 10. And then let them finish up from there.

 

[MtnStew]

Heading to the grow again. Just got lucky. Scored a practically brand new remanufactured alternator for $35 already on the shelf. Junkyard gods were friendly to me today. Bomb cyclone here in New England. Torrential downpours and insane wind.

I'll give a room update after this gets taken care of.

 

[MtnStew]

Reman was a bust. Damn thing didn't even work. So I took it back to the junkyard and swapped it out for another one. Success! Up and running with only 2 days out of work. Not bad. Could have been worse.

SkunkOG bounced back at some point last night.

All remaining seeds have now sprouted

In 2 weeks we'll be using another 2 sets of lights. We'll be repotting most or all of these by then.
Ordering the par meter tomorrow. Then the one for the hydro x controller
Humidity is making a come back. As welll as the temps. Next is automated DLI control. Humidifier controller, and variable fan controller.. I figured they'd make good Christmas presents for my buddy.

 

[MtnStew]

At least the temp and humidity both came up without extra power usage. Bomb cyclone to thank for that.

What should my VPD range be?

Learning so much with the new lighting systems. I remember... if you could put your hand there and it didn't burn, it was good....
Now I have to measure my PPFD, PAR, DLI, VPD. sounds like a bunch of diseases for the southern region of the body.

 

[giggy]

Brother I have not forgot you, been a hole lot of $hit going on with me, the doctors and family. Will try to get you them beans and maybe a few others to boot. Did get a new surgeon to seeme but it will be jan 30. The infectious disease doctor thinks we will be good so I'm hoping everything goes good because if it doesn't then it is going to go in another direction that I don't want.

 

[MtnStew]

Brother I have not forgot you, been a hole lot of $hit going on with me, the doctors and family. Will try to get you them beans and maybe a few others to boot. Did get a new surgeon to seeme but it will be jan 30. The infectious disease doctor thinks we will be good so I'm hoping everything goes good because if it doesn't then it is going to go in another direction that I don't want.

Don't worry about making a presence here unless it helps you out. I know you got a lot going on right now. You can always just text me, you know that. I do appreciate you stopping in. But I want you to focus on your health through the holidays. Anything else isn't nearly as important. I really hope you pull through everything.

 

[greenmobster440]

Nice updates. Looks like ya got a handle on it all. That's a pretty ambitious floater scrog plan ya got there. I'm sure you'll rock it.

If those plants end up outdoors ya may have to cut that screen out at harvest..lol. I'd love to do one outside but can't so I'll just tag along here.

To answer your question...largest so far was 12oz. My C99 got pretty fat.

 

[MtnStew]

Nice updates. Looks like ya got a handle on it all. That's a pretty ambitious floater scrog plan ya got there. I'm sure you'll rock it.

If those plants end up outdoors ya may have to cut that screen out at harvest..lol. I'd love to do one outside but can't so I'll just tag along here.

To answer your question...largest so far was 12oz. My C99 got pretty fat.

I'll try to get him to agree to an outdoor plant this coming spring.
For now I'm looking to hit or at least get close to outdoor yield amounts inside the grow room.
I think 900g per plant is a little ambitious but I can try. At the very least I'd like to have some great photos to show potential of a particular strain using supercropping, oversized bed and your floater idea..

Dreamberry autos run 70-75 days. If I at least bend her over once, I can probably stretch that a week.
Ultra lemon haze autos are 85-90 days
This will give us nearly 12 weeks before we are going to flip. We are going to wait for the autos to complete their run before flowering anything else.
If I can get the PE to 36" wide in veg, the 48" mark will be easy to achieve in stretch.
I haven't popped any more seeds yet but once we have an idea of the free space we have after transplanting the seedlings I'll get to it..
We may move some stuff after we pull the wood frame down. Might set up an 8'x8' section on one side of the room and a 4'x12', for the 3x 20 gallon pots, on the other.

 

[T_Dub]

At least the temp and humidity both came up without extra power usage. Bomb cyclone to thank for that.

What should my VPD range be?

Learning so much with the new lighting systems. I remember... if you could put your hand there and it didn't burn, it was good....
Now I have to measure my PPFD, PAR, DLI, VPD. sounds like a bunch of diseases for the southern region of the body.

Great looking grow MtnStew…hope you knock out those thrips. You’ve probably forgotten more than I’ve ever learned and I don’t claim to be an expert, but I’ve been doing a lot of research for my recent grow. I target these VPD ranges in veg and flower. Net I target 0.8-1.1 in veg and 1.0-1.5 in flower. I run between 1.2-1.3 right now in flower.



I don’t use Par much, but I rely on DLI which is just a calculation of time and light intensity. I target these DLI values based on plant age. So right now, I’m in my 5th week of flower and I’m sitting between 35-40 DLI. I subscribe to an app called Photone which calculates DLI and I use their special light diffuser that they sell.

Here is the DLI goal provided in the Photone App.

 

[MtnStew]

Great looking grow MtnStew…hope you knock out those thrips. You’ve probably forgotten more than I’ve ever learned and I don’t claim to be an expert, but I’ve been doing a lot of research for my recent grow. I target these VPD ranges in veg and flower. Net I target 0.8-1.1 in veg and 1.0-1.5 in flower. I run between 1.2-1.3 right now in flower.

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I don’t use Par much, but I rely on DLI which is just a calculation of time and light intensity. I target these DLI values based on plant age. So right now, I’m in my 5th week of flower and I’m sitting between 35-40 DLI. I subscribe to an app called Photone which calculates DLI and I use their special light diffuser that they sell.

Here is the DLI goal provided in the Photone App.
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Thank you for all the charts. I have the photone DLI charts saved on my phone. We're going to extend veg for the photos once we hit high growth in the 50-55 DLI range for the autos.
CO² tanks are expensive and we only have 1x 20 gallon tank right now and it only lasts about 5-7 days with the automated system. Looking into a CO² burner instead. I can grab one on Facebook in a lot of ballasts and other stuff I don't need for $75. Think it's worth it to junk the rest or find someone who needs 3x 1000w dimable ballasts and just give them away.

As for the high VPD. Getting a large room humidifier and the trolmaster plug to help bring that up to 65%-70%. Trolmaster will turn it on when the humidity drops and off as it comes back within range.
Heat will continue build once the rest of the lights get turned on. Bringing the 8'x4' trays back down should also help raise plant temps by keeping them off the concrete floor. Probably won't be back there until Sunday. So that should be my next update day on everything going on.

 

[MtnStew]

Winner winner chicken dinner!!
Wonder what new strain I'm getting.

 

[greenmobster440]

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Winner winner chicken dinner!!
Wonder what new strain I'm getting.
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How do I enter? Got a link?

 

[MtnStew]

LINK to Giveaway.
This week's giveaway is over.
But starting tomorrow there will be another one. Answer questions for extra entries, referrals are 5 entries a piece.


Gmail threw mine into spam so be careful you don't miss it.

 

[greenmobster440]

I'm in!!!!! Free is pretty cheap. Thank you for the heads up. I wanna chicken dinner!

 

[MtnStew]

LINK to Giveaway.
This week's giveaway is over.
But starting tomorrow there will be another one. Answer questions for extra entries, referrals are 5 entries a piece.


Gmail threw mine into spam so be careful you don't miss it.

For anyone following, the giveaway link above is to the main site. Wait a few seconds for it all to load and a pop up will appear with the ENTER button.
It is not a referral link going directly to the giveaway, so I am not receiving extra entries from anyone who clicks it. I can play fair.
Not sure exactly how many weeks are left. But I think there's 8. Each week starts a new giveaway. I know it resets late in the day but as for exact time I don't know. I believe it was 3pm EST today but it could have been later. Good luck.

 

[WeedHopper]

Done