5 70% Sat doms from the backbreed experiment

[DLtoker]

Looks good bro. Sorry to hear about your losses as of late... But that's the nature of the fun, I suppose.

Anyways, can't wait for some more pics. Full plants pics would be nice too. Especially of the plants you are planning to get 8 ounces from! :hubba:

 

[tcbud]

I agree with Zip, she looked totally into the revedge mode, spread calix, and single leaf growth, very typical revedging charactoristics.

Sorry to hear bout the broken girl too.

 

[leafminer]

I keep learning. Had no idea that too much N could cause reveg.

The broken one came out at just under 3 oz. dry. At the moment it's uncured and a strange sort of high. Not a couch-lock, but a distinctly sativa 'I feel happy' quality, however, it has put me into a deep sleep twice.
Think I will probably get around 4 oz - 5 oz off the oldest one, and maybe a couple oz off the small one. So, about 10 lids for this modest grow, just natural light and a very hostile climate. Could be worse.

The Nigerian male is in flower; I'll see if I can selectively pollinate #3, the small one, to get more in the sativa direction.

Next is the winter grow: Black Domina and Blue Mystic.
Plan is to veg until plants are close to 3 ft and then go 12/12. 300W of HPS and 100W of CFLs. Target time to havest 11-12 weeks.

 

[leafminer]

Good news ... been smokin the bud from the one that broke off, it is not cured but it sure does some brain damage. Anyway, I just went out to check on the ladies 'cos last night there was a whopping great storm, huge sheets of rain coming down, so I was worried about another broken off plant, but not to worry, the big one came through fine and the smaller one, fortunately is staked so even though it is a bit bent over it is fine too.

I noticed the colour of the top cola on #1 Agent looked a bit different so, thinking it was probably a trick of the light, went and got my 25x eyepiece and ... 50% amber trichs! Hooray! Looks like a lot more rain on the way so I think I will harvest the top part.

The too-early broken one gave me just under 3 oz., this one is a bit taller and got properly developed colas so I'm hoping for about 4 - 5 oz maybe, and the small one is developing some nice colas but a bit small (late planting) so maybe just 2 oz. when she's ready, but a total of 9 or 10 oz should be enough to get me safely to the next harvest, which will be the winter indoor black domina / blue mystic, I am estimating 4 weeks veg and 7 flower so about 3 months.

 

[leafminer]

top harvest from #1 Agent. Just the first part of the crop. Leaving the rest for darker trichs. :hubba:

 

[Droopy Dog]

Looking good and I congratulate your breeding efforts.

When you do a F1xF1 cross, that's when the fun really starts!

Would really second what Rockster said and get "Marijuana Botany" An Advanced Study: The Propagation and Breeding of Distinctive Cannabis by Robert Connell Clarke.

Not a 'how to' book at all, but a very solid, somewhat advanced, primer on breeding and genetics.

I consider it the most useful MJ book that I own. All the rest just seem to be fluffed out gardening books with little really useful information.

Money MORE than well spent.

DD

 

[leafminer]

Thanks.
I've found parts of that book on the Net and have been reading up on it. Makes me glad I didn't study biology. Oh well. Must go and check how the male Nigerian is on the other side of the garden, after the storms ... but it's too late to do a selective pollinisation, I think I will just chop it.
The genetic experiments have been very interesting and the quality of the high is great, but I have certainly failed in terms of yield. I think I will buy in some sativa genetics for next year's outdoor grow.
Basically though, I was successful in the main aim: to determine if a feral variety (male herming to female 100% of the time) could be 'rescued' by the addition of non-herming genetics. It did work; none of the offspring have hermed, even under extreme stress. The indica genes seem to be very dominant and showed through quite strongly even when the result was backcrossed a second time.

 

[leafminer]

Chopped the rest of #1 this morning because it was a nice warm day. Spent an hour or so trimming in the garden. Had to wash out some (not a lot) of the bud that had animalitos in it. Strange looking bug; looked like a silverfish but covered in a white cotton-looking stuff.
Packed the bud into a large manila envelope and placed it in the drying drawer upstairs along with the last lot, which is drying nicely. I like it to take about a week to dry before I jar it.

So that just leaves the smallest one, which is looking really good, very sticky, nice colas forming. Quite a lot of variation in this pheno as expected.
I won't try to pollinate with the Nigerian male plant, too late; instead I will chop the top off the male, cut the pollen sacs off, place them all in a tiny jar with a silica gel sachet and freeze it.

 

[MeNtAlPaTiEnT]

Oohh that #1 Agent looks like some yummy bud! Good job!

 

[leafminer]

Thanks.

Tried a sample of the #1 above. I had been using the (curing) bud from the one (#2) that got busted off at the base by the wind and rain. The sample of #1 above was dry enough to try.
Very sticky. Smell: citric, spicy.
Smoke: harsh, with a distinct taste of black hash. Reminded me of its Aurora parent.
High or stone? Bit of both. Strong sativa component with a touch of paranoia,
overlaid with a stong hash-like stone. Further comment has to wait curing.
Yield: Not yet known, probably 3 - 4 oz.
Plant height: 5 ft.
Genetics: Cross between male component of feral hermie Mexican sativa and Aurora indica. Result all-female no hermies F1. Bred the F1 back to the male feral parent to get a backbred F2. Bred 5, result 1 male, 4 female, 1 similar to the F1's, 3 atypical leaf type sat doms.
Flowering time to 50% amber: 13 weeks outdoor, finished by October.

 

[leafminer]

Problem with this strain: it has long branches that develop heavy colas at the end. Easily broken.
I just went out to:watchplant: and found one branch that had obviously been broken a couple of days previously, lying on the ground, and another that just got broken today by the look of it.
I got the raffia out and tied some other branches up, they were too vulnerable.:doh:

 

[leafminer]

Put 5 x Blue Mystic and 3 x Black Domina to soak.

Also cleared up the grow room and waterproofed it.

 

[leafminer]

All the seeds are beginning to open. Must get them into starter pots.

 

[leafminer]

Still have just one plant left from the Secret Agent grow. Probably a couple of weeks left, maybe three. The fan leaves are turning yellow so it can't be that long. Looking for maybe an ounce and a half off this one. Very late planted, it never got as big as the others.

The best of the phenos has been curing for a couple of weeks now and is really strong stuff with a long-lasting high. I find that half a J is plenty for the evening. It starts off more like a strong high, then later on it turns into more of an indica stone. Really really super nice, this is the best weed I have ever bred and I am collecting its seeds (I selectively pollinated it) for next year's outdoor grow.

Yield so far has been about 2 oz from the indica-dom, about 2 oz from the on that got broken and was harvested early, and 2 1/2 oz from the best pheno, so about 6 1/2 oz so far. So about half a pound in total.

 

[leafminer]

Still waiting for the trichs to turn on the last one! It still has white pistils on the buds . . . the temps are down to around 16C in the day now, the poor plant looks like a raggy old thing; hardly has any leaves left on it.

Big difference in the bud quality from these. The good pheno is just terrific - exactly how I like bud to be. But the 'bad' pheno is schwag! It gets me stoned but it is that kind of stone that doesn't have the magic. You know? Like being hit on the head rather than floating off to happy land. It's been cured like the other but instead of the great citrus/cinammon smell of the good pheno, it smells . . . well, it smells like schwag weed, you know what I mean. Same grow conditions; just goes to show, genetics is everything, right?
I've thrown away all the seed I collected from it. I have plenty of seed from the good pheno.

I might germ a few actually, just out of curiosity, veg them for a week or so and then put them outside in the winter period to see if anything at all results.

 

[leafminer]

20 weeks! That's how long the small, remaining plant has been growing. I just wish the bud would turn amber. However despite the 11 hour days the darn thing appears to be revegging. It is driving me nuts.

 

[BurntBuddah]

Great pics keep em comming i love watching peoples journals