Who else is amazed and grateful for all of the modern advances in home grow equipment?

[wil2279]

The tech is great until china trash ruins it and consumers that buy and support it. Those so called cheap china lights with so called Samsung diodes aren't Samsung for the most part. They are china knock off diodes advertising as Samsung. Why do you think Samsung is shutting down there led production? It's not worth their time to get ripped off by china and stupid North Americans and Europeans. After buying some of AC Infinity's new china junk.... And I knew better. I would pay more to go back to the 1970's and 80's for quality built lights, controls, fans and embrace the old tech and spend more for the needed power.

So Samsung manufacturers it's LED's in China and Korea so I don't know if it is fair to call them "Chinese knockoffs". I am all for American manufacturing, but i also buy what I can afford. And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I respect that, I would never want to take our grow tech back to the 70's and 80's. We have come too far to go back now. Part of developing as a grower is adapting to new things. Whether that be lights, automation, grow media, fertilizers, materials and so on. If a guy likes growing to HPS, I say rock on man, but I don't think I could ever personally recommend someone start their grow with MH or HPS. Unless they have special circumstances... maybe they live in a cold climate and want the light to help heat the grow area... idk.

 

[superpsy]

So Samsung manufacturers it's LED's in China and Korea so I don't know if it is fair to call them "Chinese knockoffs". I am all for American manufacturing, but i also buy what I can afford. And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I respect that, I would never want to take our grow tech back to the 70's and 80's. We have come too far to go back now. Part of developing as a grower is adapting to new things. Whether that be lights, automation, grow media, fertilizers, materials and so on. If a guy likes growing to HPS, I say rock on man, but I don't think I could ever personally recommend someone start their grow with MH or HPS. Unless they have special circumstances... maybe they live in a cold climate and want the light to help heat the grow area... idk.

It's not Samsung production in china. It's theft by knock off/copy and false advertising. Thats all been proven. Bridgelux and Osram are having the same issues now. Meanwell ripped HLG off and outright stole there led driver designs and part numbers and started selling them on the open market. HLG had to transition to another manufacture for the larger led drivers and development and lost there ass to Meanwell because of theft. I don't know what HLG is going to do because there the ones that brought the horticulture led idea to Samsung thus developing the tech and pushing it forward just to have china rip it off. But as long as it's cheap and fits your budget it's all cool right? I've had china steal pump and control tech. Reproduce and knock off right down to the casting and s/n. It got so bad that I would have 24 hr. security on jobs at American University's to protect our products from knock off scavenger students until we turned the job over to the university. Because if we didn't the students would take picture, measurements and material samples by filing shafts, castings and anything else they could get there hands on and turn it all over to there handlers. Then in less than a year the knock off products would show up in North America and in the EU/UK right down to the s/n's and casting numbers. A buddy of mine developed a tool system that makes working on advance motorcycle suspension systems easy for the common person at a reasonable price. Quality tools made in America, went through the pat. process everything above board. On the market less than two years and the china knock offs can be bought on Amazon and there is nothing he can do about it. But it's cheap and the price is right so that justifies the theft. My own family has fought this mess dating back to farming and mining pat. and principles. I'm all for tech and advancement,,, not theft.