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I needed two marleys for that wow
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im not gonna lie , I watched the entire video
when we go up to Cripple Creek we go to Billy Broncos casino i I hit the Wheel of Fortune .25 cent slots
ding!ding!ding!ding!ding!
one of my favorite tunes
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Submarine Girl got me to thinkin' about sumbarines...
I've been on three of them: The Nautilus, The Drum (oldest US summarine launched in 1941), and the U-505.
The movies always show the guys walking across the ballrooms in these things. In the atomical stubmarine, one "office" is the size of a kitchen chair. The "halls" are 3 feet wide, and never straight. And the thing ain't very long at all.
In the Drum and U-505, it is explained that the sailors "hot-racked" <-- When it was time for your duty call, you got out of the rack, and another guy climbed in. 24 hours = three to a rack, rotating.
Two months at sea, 98% of the time inside the bouncing, heaving, rotating, metal walls (subsarrimes hadda stay surfaced as long as possibobble), with not so much as a glass of water for washing, sharing your "cot" with two other smelly, unwashed grunts... You understand the term "pigboat". Two toilets for 80 men.
Somehow, the impeccably coiffed, shaved, and dressed actors in the movies do not match the conditions present.
I've been on three of them: The Nautilus, The Drum (oldest US summarine launched in 1941), and the U-505.
The movies always show the guys walking across the ballrooms in these things. In the atomical stubmarine, one "office" is the size of a kitchen chair. The "halls" are 3 feet wide, and never straight. And the thing ain't very long at all.
In the Drum and U-505, it is explained that the sailors "hot-racked" <-- When it was time for your duty call, you got out of the rack, and another guy climbed in. 24 hours = three to a rack, rotating.
Two months at sea, 98% of the time inside the bouncing, heaving, rotating, metal walls (subsarrimes hadda stay surfaced as long as possibobble), with not so much as a glass of water for washing, sharing your "cot" with two other smelly, unwashed grunts... You understand the term "pigboat". Two toilets for 80 men.
Somehow, the impeccably coiffed, shaved, and dressed actors in the movies do not match the conditions present.
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One other bit of joy for subs with schnorkels <-- Krauts invented it, that's how it's spelled.
Anyway, the sub could tootle along underwater on diesel, even charging their batteries with the schnorkel...
There was a slight problem: You could not have a metal chimney 30 feet in the air or it'd be detected with radar easily. So you only had the top of the schnorkel a foot or two above the surface.
This led to a weird problem: If a wave came over the schnorkel, a flapper would close the pipe, sealing it off.
But the humongumous diesel engines below were roaring happily... they cared not if the source of air was shut, they just suddenly sucked all the fargin air out of the submarine and kept roaring on. Eardrums popping all over the place until the flapper opened again.
So the choice was: Get *pop* inflated and *pop* deflated continually in a PSI torture chamber, or raise the schnorkel, get detected and blown to ribbons.
Fun outfit really. 40,000 krauts went to sea -- 30,000 were lost. <-- TINS pilgrims.
LATE EDIT TRIVIA ADD:
When a U-boat dove deep, it had to pressurize inside the hull. When the U-boat surfaced, one dude climbed the ladder to the hatch to open it.
He had to have his ankles held to prevent him getting blown out of the hatch when it opened.
This next thought of mine was not covered, and I wish I could find the answer: With high pressure for long periods, then surfacing quickly (as in emergency blow) -- I wonder how many died from the bends.
U-505 -- Now stash 80 guys inside there for two months:
Anyway, the sub could tootle along underwater on diesel, even charging their batteries with the schnorkel...
There was a slight problem: You could not have a metal chimney 30 feet in the air or it'd be detected with radar easily. So you only had the top of the schnorkel a foot or two above the surface.
This led to a weird problem: If a wave came over the schnorkel, a flapper would close the pipe, sealing it off.
But the humongumous diesel engines below were roaring happily... they cared not if the source of air was shut, they just suddenly sucked all the fargin air out of the submarine and kept roaring on. Eardrums popping all over the place until the flapper opened again.
So the choice was: Get *pop* inflated and *pop* deflated continually in a PSI torture chamber, or raise the schnorkel, get detected and blown to ribbons.
Fun outfit really. 40,000 krauts went to sea -- 30,000 were lost. <-- TINS pilgrims.
LATE EDIT TRIVIA ADD:
When a U-boat dove deep, it had to pressurize inside the hull. When the U-boat surfaced, one dude climbed the ladder to the hatch to open it.
He had to have his ankles held to prevent him getting blown out of the hatch when it opened.
This next thought of mine was not covered, and I wish I could find the answer: With high pressure for long periods, then surfacing quickly (as in emergency blow) -- I wonder how many died from the bends.
U-505 -- Now stash 80 guys inside there for two months:
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Crrr-ikey -- THEN think of having women on board a ship that is susposed to sink!
The men usually carried a can (or had nearby, handy) to pee (or more!) after six straight hours on duty with two to go. What would an emancipated, equal-to-men fluffybottom do??
Split-tails, softlegs, setters... call 'em what you will; the ******** that claim women can do any job men can do are both arrogant AND ignorant.
The men usually carried a can (or had nearby, handy) to pee (or more!) after six straight hours on duty with two to go. What would an emancipated, equal-to-men fluffybottom do??
Split-tails, softlegs, setters... call 'em what you will; the ******** that claim women can do any job men can do are both arrogant AND ignorant.
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A Truly Comprehensive Ethnic Joke:
An Englishman, a Scotsman, an Irishman, a Welshman, a Latvian, a Turk, a German, an Indian, several Americans (including a Hawaiian and an Alaskan), an Argentinean, a Dane, an Australian, a Slovak, an Egyptian, a Japanese, a Moroccan, a Frenchman, a New Zealander, a Spaniard, a Russian, a Guatemalan, a Colombian, a Pakistani, a Malaysian, a Croatian, a Uzbek, a Cypriot, a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Chinese, a Sri Lankan, a Lebanese, a Cayman Islander, a Ugandan, a Vietnamese, a Korean, a Uruguayan, a Czech, an Icelander, a Mexican, a Finn, a Honduran, a Panamanian, an Andorran, an Israeli, a Venezuelan, an Iranian, a Fijian, a Peruvian, an Estonian, a Syrian, a Brazilian, a Portuguese, a Liechtensteiner, a Mongolian, a Hungarian, a Canadian, a Moldovan, a Haitian, a Norfolk Islander, a Macedonian, a Bolivian, a Cook Islander, a Tajikistani, a Samoan, an Armenian, an Aruban, an Albanian, a Greenlander, a Micronesian, a Virgin Islander, a Georgian, a Bahaman, a Belarusian, a Cuban, a Tongan, a Cambodian, a Canadian, a Qatari, an Azerbaijani, a Romanian, a Chilean, a Kyrgyzstani, a Jamaican, a Filipino, a Ukrainian, a Dutchman, a Ecuadorian, a Costa Rican, a Swede, a Bulgarian, a Serb, a Swiss, a Greek, a Belgian, a Singaporean, an Italian, a Norwegian and 2 Africans,...walk into a fine restaurant.
"I'm sorry," says the maître d', scrutinizing the group one by one and barring their entrance into the restaurant. "You can't come in here without a Thai."
An Englishman, a Scotsman, an Irishman, a Welshman, a Latvian, a Turk, a German, an Indian, several Americans (including a Hawaiian and an Alaskan), an Argentinean, a Dane, an Australian, a Slovak, an Egyptian, a Japanese, a Moroccan, a Frenchman, a New Zealander, a Spaniard, a Russian, a Guatemalan, a Colombian, a Pakistani, a Malaysian, a Croatian, a Uzbek, a Cypriot, a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Chinese, a Sri Lankan, a Lebanese, a Cayman Islander, a Ugandan, a Vietnamese, a Korean, a Uruguayan, a Czech, an Icelander, a Mexican, a Finn, a Honduran, a Panamanian, an Andorran, an Israeli, a Venezuelan, an Iranian, a Fijian, a Peruvian, an Estonian, a Syrian, a Brazilian, a Portuguese, a Liechtensteiner, a Mongolian, a Hungarian, a Canadian, a Moldovan, a Haitian, a Norfolk Islander, a Macedonian, a Bolivian, a Cook Islander, a Tajikistani, a Samoan, an Armenian, an Aruban, an Albanian, a Greenlander, a Micronesian, a Virgin Islander, a Georgian, a Bahaman, a Belarusian, a Cuban, a Tongan, a Cambodian, a Canadian, a Qatari, an Azerbaijani, a Romanian, a Chilean, a Kyrgyzstani, a Jamaican, a Filipino, a Ukrainian, a Dutchman, a Ecuadorian, a Costa Rican, a Swede, a Bulgarian, a Serb, a Swiss, a Greek, a Belgian, a Singaporean, an Italian, a Norwegian and 2 Africans,...walk into a fine restaurant.
"I'm sorry," says the maître d', scrutinizing the group one by one and barring their entrance into the restaurant. "You can't come in here without a Thai."
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It had me glued !
Ok unka Walt,
So I’m sure you knew I couldn’t not reply to this but thanks for giving me the opportunity to
I have always enjoyed the stories of old submarines especially told by the old timers that spent time on those old tin cans both on duty and by those old timers who have worked on those old boats in civil service. Some of the stories I’ve read and heard about accidents and close calls were riveting and I can’t imagine those men having to endure such experiences in real life. About the closest I’ve come to experiencing these times is hearing stories from my friends and friends that parents (shipyard workers from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and submariners) that were lost on the USS Thresher…
On April 10, 1963, the USS Thresher, an atomic submarine, sinks in the Atlantic Ocean, killing the entire crew. One hundred and twenty-nine sailors and civilians were lost when the sub unexpectedly plunged to the sea floor roughly 300 miles off the coast of New England.
Sonar images showed the Thresher breaking apart as it fell to the bottom of the sea. Sixteen officers, 96 sailors and 17 civilians were on board. All were killed.
I’ve listened to these sounds from under the sea of the sub breaking apart during training many times and never without a tear. The sounds seemed to last forever and my imagination ran wild of what must have been going on down there…
I dedicated all my work to the safety of our submarines from day one.
As far as Split-tails, softlegs, setters... call 'em what you will; I think you would be surprised of what todays women are capable of. I guess maybe I’m one of those ******** you speak of that claim women can do any job men can do are both arrogant and ignorant (don’t worry I’m not offended at all and understand your statement in a way…) as I have not seen one job on a submarine that a woman could not accomplish as well as her brother sailors/shipyard workers. I’ve seen work accomplished by women on critical systems run circles around experienced mechanics of the (non split-tail group). I’ve also in my later career seen many times the best man for the job being a woman… so imo, you need to get your believer fixed there… it’s 2022 and things have changed a lot. (but yes you’re right, we can’t pee in a bottle that great…and believe me no accommodations for women on subs has extended my bladder to the limits sometimes).
I started the apprenticeship as a marine machinery mechanic when there were not many women In the business. Actually, I was one out of two women of 67 new apprentices hired my first year. I’m sure your “old way of thinking” was abundant amongst my piers, teachers and fellow shipyard workers as I felt it but felt also so lucky to have gotten my foot in the door and wow learning as much as I could about everything was amazing. My skills eventually were depended on and I eventually climbed the ladder from one job to another learning all the aspects of “the big picture” by the end of my career in submarines. I feel I was lucky to have had experience on the older class boats classes as well as the latest TRIDENT class which oh btw, can comfortably accommodate all the powder puffing us girls need on board
What would an emancipated, equal-to-men fluffybottom do??
Humm, I think the same thing she and her fellow sailors are trained for imho anyway
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Im more of the first picture of debauchery ,the second picture looks a little like Deliverance Hip Hop style
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Wow ! Boy we lucky we got you !Ok unka Walt,
So I’m sure you knew I couldn’t not reply to this but thanks for giving me the opportunity to
I have always enjoyed the stories of old submarines especially told by the old timers that spent time on those old tin cans both on duty and by those old timers who have worked on those old boats in civil service. Some of the stories I’ve read and heard about accidents and close calls were riveting and I can’t imagine those men having to endure such experiences in real life. About the closest I’ve come to experiencing these times is hearing stories from my friends and friends that parents (shipyard workers from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and submariners) that were lost on the USS Thresher…
On April 10, 1963, the USS Thresher, an atomic submarine, sinks in the Atlantic Ocean, killing the entire crew. One hundred and twenty-nine sailors and civilians were lost when the sub unexpectedly plunged to the sea floor roughly 300 miles off the coast of New England.
Sonar images showed the Thresher breaking apart as it fell to the bottom of the sea. Sixteen officers, 96 sailors and 17 civilians were on board. All were killed.
I’ve listened to these sounds from under the sea of the sub breaking apart during training many times and never without a tear. The sounds seemed to last forever and my imagination ran wild of what must have been going on down there…
I dedicated all my work to the safety of our submarines from day one.
As far as Split-tails, softlegs, setters... call 'em what you will; I think you would be surprised of what todays women are capable of. I guess maybe I’m one of those ******** you speak of that claim women can do any job men can do are both arrogant and ignorant (don’t worry I’m not offended at all and understand your statement in a way…) as I have not seen one job on a submarine that a woman could not accomplish as well as her brother sailors/shipyard workers. I’ve seen work accomplished by women on critical systems run circles around experienced mechanics of the (non split-tail group). I’ve also in my later career seen many times the best man for the job being a woman… so imo, you need to get your believer fixed there… it’s 2022 and things have changed a lot. (but yes you’re right, we can’t pee in a bottle that great…and believe me no accommodations for women on subs has extended my bladder to the limits sometimes).
I started the apprenticeship as a marine machinery mechanic when there were not many women In the business. Actually, I was one out of two women of 67 new apprentices hired my first year. I’m sure your “old way of thinking” was abundant amongst my piers, teachers and fellow shipyard workers as I felt it but felt also so lucky to have gotten my foot in the door and wow learning as much as I could about everything was amazing. My skills eventually were depended on and I eventually climbed the ladder from one job to another learning all the aspects of “the big picture” by the end of my career in submarines. I feel I was lucky to have had experience on the older class boats classes as well as the latest TRIDENT class which oh btw, can comfortably accommodate all the powder puffing us girls need in board
What would an emancipated, equal-to-men fluffybottom do??
Humm, I think the same thing she and her fellow sailors are trained for imho anyway
Not looking for any pats on the back, just sayin’Wow ! Boy we lucky we got you !
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Ok unka Walt,
So I’m sure you knew I couldn’t not reply to this but thanks for giving me the opportunity to
I have always enjoyed the stories of old submarines especially told by the old timers that spent time on those old tin cans both on duty and by those old timers who have worked on those old boats in civil service. Some of the stories I’ve read and heard about accidents and close calls were riveting and I can’t imagine those men having to endure such experiences in real life. About the closest I’ve come to experiencing these times is hearing stories from my friends and friends that parents (shipyard workers from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and submariners) that were lost on the USS Thresher…
On April 10, 1963, the USS Thresher, an atomic submarine, sinks in the Atlantic Ocean, killing the entire crew. One hundred and twenty-nine sailors and civilians were lost when the sub unexpectedly plunged to the sea floor roughly 300 miles off the coast of New England.
Sonar images showed the Thresher breaking apart as it fell to the bottom of the sea. Sixteen officers, 96 sailors and 17 civilians were on board. All were killed.
I’ve listened to these sounds from under the sea of the sub breaking apart during training many times and never without a tear. The sounds seemed to last forever and my imagination ran wild of what must have been going on down there…
I dedicated all my work to the safety of our submarines from day one.
As far as Split-tails, softlegs, setters... call 'em what you will; I think you would be surprised of what todays women are capable of. I guess maybe I’m one of those ******** you speak of that claim women can do any job men can do are both arrogant and ignorant (don’t worry I’m not offended at all and understand your statement in a way…) as I have not seen one job on a submarine that a woman could not accomplish as well as her brother sailors/shipyard workers. I’ve seen work accomplished by women on critical systems run circles around experienced mechanics of the (non split-tail group). I’ve also in my later career seen many times the best man for the job being a woman… so imo, you need to get your believer fixed there… it’s 2022 and things have changed a lot. (but yes you’re right, we can’t pee in a bottle that great…and believe me no accommodations for women on subs has extended my bladder to the limits sometimes).
I started the apprenticeship as a marine machinery mechanic when there were not many women In the business. Actually, I was one out of two women of 67 new apprentices hired my first year. I’m sure your “old way of thinking” was abundant amongst my piers, teachers and fellow shipyard workers as I felt it but felt also so lucky to have gotten my foot in the door and wow learning as much as I could about everything was amazing. My skills eventually were depended on and I eventually climbed the ladder from one job to another learning all the aspects of “the big picture” by the end of my career in submarines. I feel I was lucky to have had experience on the older class boats classes as well as the latest TRIDENT class which oh btw, can comfortably accommodate all the powder puffing us girls need on board
What would an emancipated, equal-to-men fluffybottom do??
Humm, I think the same thing she and her fellow sailors are trained for imho anyway
Par Excellent post!
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I knew that and would have said that three days before I read that . Just my way... !
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stand and pee In a jar?
no problems
no problems
Well there you go…
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