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I have spent hours since earlier today's posting, (Several Hours) researching LEDS and can say I feel dumber and slightly pizzed about all the time I waisted. I am so fogged out it feels like I been mokin the weed all day long. Kind, IQ, Scorpion Diablo, Photontek... You name it. Wow. My brain is scrambled. 15 minute video here, 20 there... Everyone always has a better solution. There is a lot of bad stuff as it relates to warranty with Mars. Seen a lot of that. Who knows what to believe. I have had 10 windows open at once comparing back and forth. Holy Sheepshyt. It was sort of like that before when I just said F it and went with the viparspectras. I even searched several time LED here at the passion. The video of the guy from Utah State about put me to sleep in my chair. Good stuff - I guess he just had a soothing voice. Meanwhile I got nothing purchased. I am going to hold off on the Mars purchase. Just got the E about the paypal stuff from them. Budget between 8 and 1400 give or take. I know I dont want burples. I am going to hang here with you all for awhile and finally load a couple well deserved PH's. I'll go back into LED research mode in the AM. I dont want to make a mistake if I am going to potentially drop 1400 on a light. I like the style of the FC 8000 but. Enough.. Smoke Time and enjoy bud porn. Or maybe just regular um .. Naaa... Hahaha.
 
I am extremely leaning to photontek 1000. I am forcing myself to watch the video of the guy from Utah State that was posted here awhile back by a character Bigjer. I need to understand how CO2 plays into it. I dont have CO2 enrichment but could. However I already do have great air turn around in the room. I am heading to the local 7/11 for a soda and plan on smoking out with it shortly. Thanks Boo!! 99.9% sure on the Photontek stuff but would like a 1000. Not sure I need it that big. We are talking 4 foot by 5 foot of actual grow space and only 3 plants. I am only interested in quality and not quantity at this stage of my game. Always nice to have extra buds though. BRB
 
I am extremely leaning to photontek 1000. I am forcing myself to watch the video of the guy from Utah State that was posted here awhile back by a character Bigjer. I need to understand how CO2 plays into it. I dont have CO2 enrichment but could. However I already do have great air turn around in the room. I am heading to the local 7/11 for a soda and plan on smoking out with it shortly. Thanks Boo!! 99.9% sure on the Photontek stuff but would like a 1000. Not sure I need it that big. We are talking 4 foot by 5 foot of actual grow space and only 3 plants. I am only interested in quality and not quantity at this stage of my game. Always nice to have extra buds though. BRB
How tall? The tent I mean. Study par maps in your size tent, how high it needs to be to have 1100 or so center, and as high as possible in the corners. As you lower light, center zone goes higher, and corners are weaker. As light is raised, center drops and corners go up.

Once you know where your height is above canopy you know how much room you have to grow your plant. If the light is so strong it need to be 30 inch s away, you don't have much leeway on plant height ...

CO2 is pretty advanced. The notion is, in simple terms that the more light you can give a plant, the more food it sucks up and more it grows. But with too much light, plant can not take up any more nutes, and continuing with that much light is detrimental.

By running a precise amount of it CO2, the plant will make use of some extra light...,IDK maybe 1500 par? This also incorporates ultra exact data on your plant strain, and similarly accurate data on how much nutes your plant actually uses, etc. There are things you can buy that release CO2, but I don't bother. I don't have such data so if I did it, would just be a shot in dark.

The bigger light could sure be used somewhere, but I think boo's tent is similar size...if so I'd take his advice and save a couple bucks. Or hear up, get it all down, start growing and recording meticulous data and frigging go for it!

Bubba
 
Once you know where your height is above canopy you know how much room you have to grow your plant. If the light is so strong it need to be 30 inch s away, you don't have much leeway on plant height ...

CO2 is pretty advanced. The notion is, in simple terms that the more light you can give a plant, the more food it sucks up and more it grows. But with too much light, plant can not take up any more nutes, and continuing with that much light is detrimental.

By running a precise amount of it CO2, the plant will make use of some extra light...,IDK maybe 1500 par? This also incorporates ultra exact data on your plant strain, and similarly accurate data on how much nutes your plant actually uses, etc. There are things you can buy that release CO2, but I don't bother. I don't have such data so if I did it, would just be a shot in dark.

The bigger light could sure be used somewhere, but I think boo's tent is similar size...if so I'd take his advice and save a couple bucks. Or hear up, get it all down, start growing and recording meticulous data and frigging go for it! - -


I'll figure this requoting thing out eventually. 30 inches below the light and then another 18 inches as thickness of reservoir wont leave much - especially if I ever go back to a sativa so the 1000 is probably out. Spectrum is what is bothering me the absolute most. Boo's right.. I think the 600 is enough and I been burned by More's Law enough times that I should have gotten it through my thick skull by now. More is not always better.
 
Once you know where your height is above canopy you know how much room you have to grow your plant. If the light is so strong it need to be 30 inch s away, you don't have much leeway on plant height ...

CO2 is pretty advanced. The notion is, in simple terms that the more light you can give a plant, the more food it sucks up and more it grows. But with too much light, plant can not take up any more nutes, and continuing with that much light is detrimental.

By running a precise amount of it CO2, the plant will make use of some extra light...,IDK maybe 1500 par? This also incorporates ultra exact data on your plant strain, and similarly accurate data on how much nutes your plant actually uses, etc. There are things you can buy that release CO2, but I don't bother. I don't have such data so if I did it, would just be a shot in dark.

The bigger light could sure be used somewhere, but I think boo's tent is similar size...if so I'd take his advice and save a couple bucks. Or hear up, get it all down, start growing and recording meticulous data and frigging go for it! - -


I'll figure this requoting thing out eventually. 30 inches below the light and then another 18 inches as thickness of reservoir wont leave much - especially if I ever go back to a sativa so the 1000 is probably out. Spectrum is what is bothering me the absolute most. Boo's right.. I think the 600 is enough and I been burned by More's Law enough times that I should have gotten it through my thick skull by now. More is not always better.
That's a tough one for most of us. Either light will be killer. But yeah, I think myself, I would go with the one Boo is using. You can never have to too many lights, just not all at once!
 
I just entered my credit card info trying to buy the photontek 600. Says declined. Again no phone number... I sent them an E-mail and told them to call me. Not sure I like the whole modern technology where I can't pick up the phone and call someone especially if I have a problem.. We will see what happens tomorrow.. I Am Thoroughly Exhausted !! - I don't think I even smoked the weed once today. I did make sure to check PH and Trichs too. - Its quite the addictive hobby - - Night who ever is left awake. Last one to bed please turn out the lights - Uncle Walt will turn them back on in the AM while he's making our first pot of jo .. Be back for coffee and pinch hits in the morning.. Hopefully.
 
Guys if you use PayPal be very careful. I just busted a fker trying to scam using PayPal by sending an email saying i had made a purchase for an Iphone for 689.00. It says if you didn't make this purchase call this number immediately, Paypal Helpline - +1-800-254-3124.

I thought no fking way. So, I logged into my PayPal account and there was no such charge pending, and that fking phone number is not PayPals. I called Paypal from the help number on my account and sure enough, it's a scam. They are trying to get your information. Just giving you a heads up.
And your more then welcome to call that number and have some fun iffen ya want. 😁
I get at least two or three of those a month. I just forward them to [email protected].
 
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A man with a Punt Gun, a type of large shotgun used for duck hunting. It could kill over 50 birds at once and was banned in the late 1860s.
That kinda gun was used in boats. I dunno where it went, but I once had a series of pics showing how it was used... wish I could find them. AHA!! Found!

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of course not .. are you not our prime minister ?




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Them Dutchies were some kinda hardcases, no error. They even painted a picture of the PM and his brother:
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<--TINS actual painting of the dudes after the party.

When we were in Delft, we learned the story of the assassination of William of Orange in 1584. A dude with a blunderbuss emptied about 3/4 pound of lead right into Willie's chest while the Orange Man was at home. The Delfties even showed us the bullethole riddled wall... they left it as it was.

Phillip II of Spico had laid out a hit-man bounty on William: 20,000 Spico Simoleans, and this foo' was trying to collect it.

This shot really annoyed the neighbors. The first thing they did was to heat two large iron plates to red-hot. Then, they "punished" the hand that pulled the trigger by clamping the two plates over the hand.

FOUR DAYS of torture later, the dude (Balthazar Gerard) expired.
 
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