The Original Old Farts Club

[Bubba]

I prefer them for concealed carry to automatics, because pocket lint and dust won't gum them up. I carried a Detonics Pocket 9 for awhile, but switched to a SW 640 in 357 for reliability.



I have no idea where this handbasket is headed, but we are making amazingly good time!



Wowza! I want some of that!

I have fired thousands and thousands of rounds through automatics.I have never, ever EVER had one "gum up" from lint. I would dare say a revolver will become mistimed before a Glock will gum up. Complete falsehood....unless you keep your pistol in horrendous repair. I have seen numerous videos of folks trying to gum up a Glock, shoving it in mud, dirt, underwater, everything imaginable, still works.

This info is still out there because of lorcin, raven, Jennings and other stamped steel cheapo trash.

If I'm going into combat I'm bringing an auto. Not one military uses wheel guns ...

Bubba

 

[ROSTERMAN]

Sig Saur Can not jam em
did drills using 380's in my 9mm and got a few stove pipe jams to learn how to clear malfunctions .Pistol never failed on range course and thousands of rounds also
Big gun but built with steel not plastic.
I ripped the slide off a buddy's Glock trying to clear a jam he had.

 

[Bubba]

Sig Saur Can not jam em
did drills using 380's in my 9mm and got a few stove pipe jams to learn how to clear malfunctions .Pistol never failed on range course and thousands of rounds also
Big gun but built with steel not plastic.
I ripped the slide off a buddy's Glock trying to clear a jam he had.

I am extremely familiar with Glocks. To remove the slide, you must pinch the back of the gun to slightly force the slide forward, then pull back on both sides of the slide release, only then can it move forward for removal. Unless the guns rails were ripped out of the polymer or broke off the slide, how in the wide world of sports did you do that? The only Glock I have seen jam were either an older model .40 caliber, when they had the bulging case problem, also saw a 30s .45 that would jam one coming out of the magazine trying to enter the chamber. Replacing trigger, trigger bar assembly cured that.

Most Glock jams are from shooter error, in the gripping of the gun, combined with the individuals hand characteristics. Known as limp wristing where the whole gun is moving, taking away the force of the sliding going back. Usually a smaller shooter with a .40 will cause this.

My Glock nines? Lord only knows how many rounds over years and years never jammed once. I do know what I am doing, and do hand load all my ammo, both plinking and high accuracy rounds.

Bubba

 

[ROSTERMAN]

I am extremely familiar with Glocks. To remove the slide, you must pinch the back of the gun to slightly force the slide forward, then pull back on both sides of the slide release, only then can it move forward for removal. Unless the guns rails were ripped out of the polymer or broke off the slide, how in the wide world of sports did you do that? The only Glock I have seen jam were either an older model .40 caliber, when they had the bulging case problem, also saw a 30s .45 that would jam one coming out of the magazine trying to enter the chamber. Replacing trigger, trigger bar assembly cured that.

Most Glock jams are from shooter error, in the gripping of the gun, combined with the individuals hand characteristics. Known as limp wristing where the whole gun is moving, taking away the force of the sliding going back. Usually a smaller shooter with a .40 will cause this.

My Glock nines? Lord only knows how many rounds over years and years never jammed once. I do know what I am doing, and do hand load all my ammo, both plinking and high accuracy rounds.

Bubba

He was a new shooter so limp wrist could explain it.
I was working the slide without trying to remove it, and it came off half way in my hand and stuck on frame half way too , was a pain to get off after that without damaging it.
But I got it, not really liking the release method to de-slide the glock either, my Sig slides right off after release of the side release lever (botton) .

 

[Bubba]

He was a new shooter so limp wrist could explain it.
I was working the slide without trying to remove it, and it came off half way in my hand and stuck on frame half way too , was a pain to get off after that without damaging it.
But I got it, not really liking the release method to de-slide the glock either, my Sig slides right off after release of the side release lever (botton) .

Gotcha, sounds like one side wasn't on rail, tried to force, now jam. Now I see..

Bubba

 

[Bubba]

Limp wristing can also occur with even massive shooters who flinch. Beginners do it before the round goes off in anticipation of the noise. This results in the slide speed and force being compromised, ejection and extraction both muffed.

Bubba

 

[ROSTERMAN]

Yep maybe, I was not impressed with the way it felt in my hand
I will stick with my Sig Saur Kalashnikov Model P226
stick them in sand mud or carp and it will still cycle

 

[ROSTERMAN]

Limp wristing can also occur with even massive shooters who flinch. Beginners do it before the round goes off in anticipation of the noise. This results in the slide speed and force being compromised, ejection and extraction both muffed.

Bubba

And the dreaded thumb slide slice Ouch!
I bet everyone has done this once
If you do it twice your stupid LOL

 

[yooper420]

I been taking pain pills, Oxycodone, 50 or 100mg, 4 times a day, for 18 years. Am I addicted ? Helll yes. When my arm blew up, my hand turned black from blood clots. I was supposed to loose it. Got my left arm cut open from my armpit to my palm. I was on a Morphine drip along with shots of Demorol and was not touching the pain. They cleared the clots and sewed me back up. The pain 1 to 10, this was a 20. Now it never gets better than a 6 or 7, but I live with it. Probably why the cancer don't hurt much. At least I'm still vertical, alive ant kickin'.

 

[Bubba]

Yeah, Glock bite, know it well. Even not "bit" if I fire 3 to 4 hundred rounds in a setting, just the slide gently touching over and over can wear a sore spot. Done badly it will chop the skin off the top of your thumb knuckle.

If I'm regularly shooting, I get a callose there, sort of like guitar players finger tips.

Bubba

 

[ROSTERMAN]

I been taking pain pills, Oxycodone, 50 or 100mg, 4 times a day, for 18 years. Am I addicted ? Helll yes. When my arm blew up, my hand turned black from blood clots. I was supposed to loose it. Got my left arm cut open from my armpit to my palm. I was on a Morphine drip along with shots of Demorol and was not touching the pain. They cleared the clots and sewed me back up. The pain 1 to 10, this was a 20. Now it never gets better than a 6 or 7, but I live with it. Probably why the cancer don't hurt much. At least I'm still vertical, alive ant kickin'.

Glad you are still with us . we need you Bro
Sorry about the Pain, I too live in pain so I understand .
I wish they had a way to just turn off without killing us.

 

[Bubba]

Yep maybe, I was not impressed with the way it felt in my hand
I will stick with my Sig Saur Kalashnikov Model P226
stick them in sand mud or carp and it will still cycle

Sigs are great. Glocks have a different sort of grip angle and size. My 30S .45 and my 21 are SF models, distance between trigger and back of grip is slightly shorter than standard. My 17 has a smaller grip than the 2 .45s. love that gun. Sent it to Wilson combat and had them custom fit one of their match barrels, and installed a short pull short reset trigger. Sweet piece
Bubba

 

[pute]

Morning OFC. Light frost this morning. Don't think it hurt anything. Frankly wouldn't bother me that much. I'm burnt out plus most everything is played out. Still have a few maters, carrots, beets and horseradish.

 

[Tattered Old Graywolf]

I have fired thousands and thousands of rounds through automatics.I have never, ever EVER had one "gum up" from lint. I would dare say a revolver will become mistimed before a Glock will gum up. Complete falsehood....unless you keep your pistol in horrendous repair. I have seen numerous videos of folks trying to gum up a Glock, shoving it in mud, dirt, underwater, everything imaginable, still works.

This info is still out there because of lorcin, raven, Jennings and other stamped steel cheapo trash.

If I'm going into combat I'm bringing an auto. Not one military uses wheel guns ...

Bubba

I too have fired thousands of rounds through various automatics, all of which functioned well, but were well taken care of. I loved my stainless Detonics Pocket 9 for a carry in my pocket piece, with its inertia firing pen that allowed me to carry one in the pipe and pull the trigger double action for the first round.

A quality piece that I could completely cover with my hand and easily carry inconspicuously in most pockets and my fanny pack. I would have never considered giving it up, but the slide did get gummy carrying in in various pockets and fanny packs. I noticed that cleaning it, so it never miss loaded, but it it would gum up badly enough with fine grit, lint, et al from my pockets, that it was clear that it would.

That is why I switched to a stainless SW 640 ace in the hole carry piece in 357 mag that I can also cover with my hand. Hammerless and they seldom fail to work for five rounds up close and personal.

If I had reason to be concerned about trouble or was going to war, I would carry a my Glock 22 with laser in 40SW, or stock 1911A1 that you can bury in dirt, shake off, and still shoot, but is loose and rattled when you shook it , or my Desert Eagle in 44 using a more conventional carry, in addition to my ace in the hole, and possibly a relatively easily concealed SPAS 12 shotgun.

That of course infers that they made it past my Barrett 90 in 50 BMG and M1A1 7.62 Nato Super Match at the outer perimeter.

 

[giggy]

Morning everybody happy hump day. Cool down going on, saying lows in high 40s this weekend. I'm ready for it too.

 

[Tattered Old Graywolf]

Morning OFC. Light frost this morning. Don't think it hurt anything. Frankly wouldn't bother me that much. I'm burnt out plus most everything is played out. Still have a few maters, carrots, beets and horseradish.

The dry year may give you horseradish some additional bite. How were your onions?

 

[pute]

The dry year may give you horseradish some additional bite. How were your onions?

No onions, chives.

 

[ROSTERMAN]

I too have fired thousands of rounds through various automatics, all of which functioned well, but were well taken care of. I loved my stainless Detonics Pocket 9 for a carry in my pocket piece, with its inertia firing pen that allowed me to carry one in the pipe and pull the trigger double action for the first round.

A quality piece that I could completely cover with my hand and easily carry inconspicuously in most pockets and my fanny pack. I would have never considered giving it up, but the slide did get gummy carrying in in various pockets and fanny packs. I noticed that cleaning it, so it never miss loaded, but it it would gum up badly enough with fine grit, lint, et al from my pockets, that it was clear that it would.

That is why I switched to a stainless SW 640 ace in the hole carry piece in 357 mag that I can also cover with my hand. Hammerless and they seldom fail to work for five rounds up close and personal.

If I had reason to be concerned about trouble or was going to war, I would carry a my Glock 22 with laser in 40SW, or stock 1911A1 that you can bury in dirt, shake off, and still shoot, but is loose and rattled when you shook it , or my Desert Eagle in 44 using a more conventional carry, in addition to my ace in the hole, and possibly a relatively easily concealed SPAS 12 shotgun.

That of course infers that they made it past my Barrett 90 in 50 BMG and M1A1 7.62 Nato Super Match at the outer perimeter.

The old saying comes to mind
Oil your slides or your die

 

[Bubba]

The old saying comes to mind
Oil your slides or your die
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Looks like a gen 4...

Bubba

 

[Bubba]

Another thing I like about my Glock 17, it is one of the rare ones not made overseas, it was made at their Smyrna Georgia factory, right in the good old US of A!

Bubba