T Dub’s Durban Poison Winter Garden

[WeedHopper]

Same thing would happen in a DWC if you didn't have air stones.

 

[KGB]

I run airstones in my earthboxes and I have a 4 inch stone in my 30 gallon water reservoir. Its a part of why my plants are so healthy

 

[Hippie420]

My new solution has 15ml of hydrogen peroxide per gallon. That might prevent a reoccurrence. I needed to correct this asap.

I always add H2O2 to my tanks. Trick is, ya gotta do it at least every third day 'cause the H2O2 loses its extra oxygen atom and turns into plain old H20.

 

[greenmobster440]

I asked if it was stagnant because most folks do put a bubbler in any solution that will hit the plant.
@Hippie420 I always ran h2o2 in my bubbler tubs too.

 

[T_Dub]

I asked if it was stagnant because most folks do put a bubbler in any solution that will hit the plant.
@Hippie420 I always ran h2o2 in my bubbler tubs too.

Thanks! Bubbler is installed and running.

 

[LarWilli]

My last 24 hours has involved a lot of research into LED lighting and I don’t feel any better educated than when I started. Talk about complex!! I decided to document my decision in my grow log here so that I can look back and kick myself for being ignorant. This is what went into the decision.

One of my observations with my grow setup is that my light does not encourage stretch. I use a 2018 320 watt Timber cob fixture at the 3500 spectrum in my 2x4 tent. It’s probably obsolete given tech changes. I hope to continue to use this old lamp for veg and use a new light for flowering.
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Unless I hit my plants with the Mars Hydro IR light like I did last year, there is almost no stretch with my current light. I figure that if I’m ever going to have a shot at winning “bud of the month”, I need better stacking on my colas.

Lighting is something that I know very little about, especially LEDs. Based on my reading and very little input from forum posts, I could benefit from more red lighting in my LED. I also read that LEDs are much more efficient than they were 6 years ago when I bought my lamp, so I could get more light output with my 320 watts than I’m currently getting.

So I’m taking advantage of Black Friday to pick out my Christmas gift….an entry level new LED. I narrowed it down to the ViparSpectra p4000 (XS 4000 too powerful), 2024 spider farmer se4500 (new model), or AC Infinity ionframe evo3.

I have no idea how to choose an LED, so I made my decision based on wattage (prefer same or more than my current 320 watts), diode brand (preferred Samsung EVO for efficiency), par maps and red spectrum for better flowering. I also preferred a light that could be controlled with the AC Infinity 69 Pro controller and I believe I prefer bar lights over boards. I used artificial intelligence (Microsoft copilot) to compare and contrast the various lamps and it was helpful but oftentimes inaccurate.

I chose the Spider Farmer because it checked all the boxes.

Here were my choices…..ViparSpectra. P4000 420 watt! Bridge lux diodes, red spectrum as shown below
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AC Infinity…..Ionframe evo3. Only 280 watt. Samsung evo diodes, and a better red spectrum
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Spider Farmer se4500…..320 watt ( equal to mine), Samsung evo diodes and more red spectrum

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The Spider Farmer LED arrives tomorrow and will be installed as we go into week #3 since the flip to 12/12. I look forward to observing any noticeable differences.

My last 24 hours has involved a lot of research into LED lighting and I don’t feel any better educated than when I started. Talk about complex!! I decided to document my decision in my grow log here so that I can look back and kick myself for being ignorant. This is what went into the decision.

One of my observations with my grow setup is that my light does not encourage stretch. I use a 2018 320 watt Timber cob fixture at the 3500 spectrum in my 2x4 tent. It’s probably obsolete given tech changes. I hope to continue to use this old lamp for veg and use a new light for flowering.
View attachment 366272

Unless I hit my plants with the Mars Hydro IR light like I did last year, there is almost no stretch with my current light. I figure that if I’m ever going to have a shot at winning “bud of the month”, I need better stacking on my colas.

Lighting is something that I know very little about, especially LEDs. Based on my reading and very little input from forum posts, I could benefit from more red lighting in my LED. I also read that LEDs are much more efficient than they were 6 years ago when I bought my lamp, so I could get more light output with my 320 watts than I’m currently getting.

So I’m taking advantage of Black Friday to pick out my Christmas gift….an entry level new LED. I narrowed it down to the ViparSpectra p4000 (XS 4000 too powerful), 2024 spider farmer se4500 (new model), or AC Infinity ionframe evo3.

I have no idea how to choose an LED, so I made my decision based on wattage (prefer same or more than my current 320 watts), diode brand (preferred Samsung EVO for efficiency), par maps and red spectrum for better flowering. I also preferred a light that could be controlled with the AC Infinity 69 Pro controller and I believe I prefer bar lights over boards. I used artificial intelligence (Microsoft copilot) to compare and contrast the various lamps and it was helpful but oftentimes inaccurate.

I chose the Spider Farmer because it checked all the boxes.

Here were my choices…..ViparSpectra. P4000 420 watt! Bridge lux diodes, red spectrum as shown below
View attachment 366269View attachment 366282

AC Infinity…..Ionframe evo3. Only 280 watt. Samsung evo diodes, and a better red spectrum
View attachment 366271View attachment 366292View attachment 366296

Spider Farmer se4500…..320 watt ( equal to mine), Samsung evo diodes and more red spectrum

View attachment 366270View attachment 366293
View attachment 366295

The Spider Farmer LED arrives tomorrow and will be installed as we go into week #3 since the flip to 12/12. I look forward to observing any noticeable differences.

I’m starting to search LED and I want to change also. I have two CMH lights in my grow room. Each light has two 315 watt bulbs. I use 4k for veg and switch to 3k for flowering.

I think LED will give me more vertical growth space, better flowering results, and reduced utility bills. My grow room is 8 by 8 with a height of 8 feet.

I like the method you used to decide which lights to choose.

 

[greenmobster440]

I’m starting to search LED and I want to change also. I have two CMH lights in my grow room. Each light has two 315 watt bulbs. I use 4k for veg and switch to 3k for flowering.

I think LED will give me more vertical growth space, better flowering results, and reduced utility bills. My grow room is 8 by 8 with a height of 8 feet.

I like the method you used to decide which lights to choose.

That's a big area to light up. I'm loving the LEDs these days. I was an old hid grower but after a long lay off from growing I jumped right on the led train. They really do a great job with less heat n energy cost.

 

[Carty]

I know a few people who run them 315w CMH lights with great success... LED is best for smaller setups for sure.. first ones I've found where you can zip up a tent without having to have an exhaust fan billowing to remove all the heat a light causes... I grew with HPS for years and because of living in a tropical area it was year long battle....

Try mixing the 2 is what these other growers found working perfect... and for us LED fans.. try adding a small COB light to your setup...

 

[LarWilli]

That's a big area to light up. I'm loving the LEDs these days. I was an old hid grower but after a long lay off from growing I jumped right on the led train. They really do a great job with less heat n energy cost.

That's a big area to light up. I'm loving the LEDs these days. I was an old hid grower but after a long lay off from growing I jumped right on the led train. They really do a great job with less heat n energy cost.

I’m starting to search LED and I want to change also. I have two CMH lights in my grow room. Each light has two 315 watt bulbs. I use 4k for veg and switch to 3k for flowering.

I think LED will give me more vertical growth space, better flowering results, and reduced utility bills. My grow room is 8 by 8 with a height of 8 feet.

I like the method you used to decide which lights to choose.

My CMH lights are great. I will continue to have them on hand and look for a new technology. The CMH lights are heavy and are getting ready to replace the reflectors. And, some of these manufacturers are switching to LED.

Although the room is 8 cubic feet I only grow 2 to 4 plants at a time.

I’m hoping to find some of the same things you were looking for. Thanks for your input.

 

[LarWilli]

I know a few people who run them 315w CMH lights with great success... LED is best for smaller setups for sure.. first ones I've found where you can zip up a tent without having to have an exhaust fan billowing to remove all the heat a light causes... I grew with HPS for years and because of living in a tropical area it was year long battle....

Try mixing the 2 is what these other growers found working perfect... and for us LED fans.. try adding a small COB light to your setup...

Thanks. I will look at the COB mix and see what pans out. I switched to growing winter plants hoping to better manage the heat. It’s much easier to do it with the air intake and outtake fans, their variable speeds and timers in the cooler winter air vs summer air conditioning.