T Dub’s Durban Poison Winter Garden
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I've seen ugly scrogs and I doubt this will be one..lol
Stand back and imagine each plant double in size. That's a good guide to let ya know when to flip. That will decide if your going to win or get a Trainwreck..lol
Small space, small screen, stretch growth, adds up quickly. Tenfold for plants vegged to long.
A second net is a good idea
Stand back and imagine each plant double in size. That's a good guide to let ya know when to flip. That will decide if your going to win or get a Trainwreck..lol
Small space, small screen, stretch growth, adds up quickly. Tenfold for plants vegged to long.
A second net is a good idea
Thanks Greenmobster! If you think I hit a point where it’s time to flip to flower, please don’t hold back. I think it will be two more weeks…..and I will follow your advice and use 2 nets.
A Quick Look at the scrog screen…..still plenty of room to go but it’s filling quickly. Hoping to flip in two weeks so I need to be patient.
Last night they received a foliar feeding with CalMag and seaweed extract.
Today…..
I defoliated more below the screen and I removed some inward facing fan leaves that were blocking bud sites.
I adjusted the ph in the 1.3 gallon reservoirs from 6.4 to 6.0
Wove more branches into the scrog net
Revised the controller programming so that the oscillating fans blow harder as temperatures rise
Added a fan to blow air below the canopy net
Plenty of air movement
Last night they received a foliar feeding with CalMag and seaweed extract.
Today…..
I defoliated more below the screen and I removed some inward facing fan leaves that were blocking bud sites.
I adjusted the ph in the 1.3 gallon reservoirs from 6.4 to 6.0
Wove more branches into the scrog net
Revised the controller programming so that the oscillating fans blow harder as temperatures rise
Added a fan to blow air below the canopy net
Plenty of air movement
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Well, it’s time for some clarification on scrogging as I’m very inexperienced with this technique. I’ve been aggressively bending branches and my first screen is quickly filling in. I’m supercropping a few branches to cover the open holes in the scrog net. I’m questioning if it’s almost time to flip to flower since this screen looks relatively full and I need room to weave branches during the stretch, right? Is it possible to wait too long to flip? Does a second screen do anything here, or is that to support the upcoming stretch?
I’m assuming that I should flip in three days? That’s the end of week 4 of veg. Logical or should I wait one more week?
If there is any benefit to waiting, I’m open to it. I just don’t want an overcrowded tent. I’m off to go read about scrogging, but I welcome advise or input.
I’m assuming that I should flip in three days? That’s the end of week 4 of veg. Logical or should I wait one more week?
If there is any benefit to waiting, I’m open to it. I just don’t want an overcrowded tent. I’m off to go read about scrogging, but I welcome advise or input.
Your space is filling fast as I figured it would with 3 plants. I'd flip as soon as ya can. You'll have 3+ weeks of stretch growth in flower. Oh my, where to put it all..lol
A common mistake in scrogs is flipping to flower to late to accommodate the area you have. I've flipped scrogs barely touching the screen because I know they will explode into it and double in size.
You have to stand back and imagine double what you have now. Your doing that now and seeing you may be waiting to long.
I'd flip them and train them down hard for 10days and then let them go. Ya may need that second net for support...just dunno till it's time.
A Note about the screen. It's a tool used to spread and support the plant. There's no rule that says you must fill the screen. I have plants now that haven't but every bud sites is getting full on light and that is the goal in scrogging. Max light dialed into only the canopy. Can't get much better than that.
A common mistake in scrogs is flipping to flower to late to accommodate the area you have. I've flipped scrogs barely touching the screen because I know they will explode into it and double in size.
You have to stand back and imagine double what you have now. Your doing that now and seeing you may be waiting to long.
I'd flip them and train them down hard for 10days and then let them go. Ya may need that second net for support...just dunno till it's time.
A Note about the screen. It's a tool used to spread and support the plant. There's no rule that says you must fill the screen. I have plants now that haven't but every bud sites is getting full on light and that is the goal in scrogging. Max light dialed into only the canopy. Can't get much better than that.
Thank you for the scrog guidance!! This could get crowded quickly, so Im changing over to 12-hours effective today. Let the stretch begin…..
Great news, I think your on the right track.
Guide the stems that you know will produce large colas to the perimeter of the netting...as best ya can. You'll prob end up removing some growth as ya go. It's gonna get crowded.
At this point you could raise that net a little...just 3-4" up. This would give you more room to retrain them as they stretch. Did that makes sense?
Your going to have a lot of packed leaf so don't hesitate to remove leaf as ya go.
Guide the stems that you know will produce large colas to the perimeter of the netting...as best ya can. You'll prob end up removing some growth as ya go. It's gonna get crowded.
At this point you could raise that net a little...just 3-4" up. This would give you more room to retrain them as they stretch. Did that makes sense?
Your going to have a lot of packed leaf so don't hesitate to remove leaf as ya go.
Today is officially Day 1 of flower. Changed all timing to 12/12 on lighting yesterday. LED is 18” above the plants and now cranked on full blast. Checked the Daily Light Integral at 12 hours/day and I’m getting a reading around 30. I will likely need to lower the lamp in week 3-5 to increase intensity for better bud development. I want my DLI closer to 40 for that.
Tomorrow I’ll be mixing up a homemade version of Rock Resinator / Terpinator which increases oil production and mass. I have never tried a side by side to verify that this recipe actually makes a difference, but my research indicates that Potassium Sulfate is a good addition. So here is what I’ll be mixing up tomorrow. Thanks to “Dr. Who” wherever you are (the creator of this recipe)
Recipe:
378.5 grams (volumetric math) of Potassium sulfate powder from Amazon into 1 gallon of water for the 10% solution.
Add the 1.5 tsp of Dark brown Sugar for the carbs. Mix well till everything is dissolved and jug it!
FEED CHART
(DO NOT mix with Silica - this causes a chemical reaction - precipitation)
STARTING Week 3&4
4-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
At week 5&6
6-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
At week 7 till harvest
8-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
Tomorrow I’ll be mixing up a homemade version of Rock Resinator / Terpinator which increases oil production and mass. I have never tried a side by side to verify that this recipe actually makes a difference, but my research indicates that Potassium Sulfate is a good addition. So here is what I’ll be mixing up tomorrow. Thanks to “Dr. Who” wherever you are (the creator of this recipe)
Recipe:
378.5 grams (volumetric math) of Potassium sulfate powder from Amazon into 1 gallon of water for the 10% solution.
Add the 1.5 tsp of Dark brown Sugar for the carbs. Mix well till everything is dissolved and jug it!
FEED CHART
(DO NOT mix with Silica - this causes a chemical reaction - precipitation)
STARTING Week 3&4
4-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
At week 5&6
6-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
At week 7 till harvest
8-ml in 1 gallon of your feed
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