Sopappy's grow

[Kraven]

:rofl: take your time, your welcome to tag along. I'll try to be specific in my journal. TOR is designed to keep your IP anonymous, if you bypass any of the built in safety features you have defeated the whole purpose of using TOR. This server is not hosted in the US so I use common sense and Mozilla Firefox to access this site. If your doing black market things then TOR is for you, but beware of the deep web, it's an unforgiving place.

 

[P Jammers]

This server is not hosted in the US

May want to check that. I did not used to be, but pretty sure that changed when it was taken over.

 

[Kraven]

Ah good to know PJ. I had seen in a post back a few days ago that it was not so I hope I was not in error?

 

[sopappy]

:rofl: take your time, your welcome to tag along. I'll try to be specific in my journal. TOR is designed to keep your IP anonymous, if you bypass any of the built in safety features you have defeated the whole purpose of using TOR. This server is not hosted in the US so I use common sense and Mozilla Firefox to access this site. If your doing black market things then TOR is for you, but beware of the deep web, it's an unforgiving place.

I've been watching 'House of Cards' so nope, not going anywhere near the deep web. I TRY to keep things simple so I 'm just using the TOR browser and it makes me log in when I press QUOTE or it'll bring up the SEARCH page. I'm not into anything black market, just like anonymity re pot and porn but it's driving me nuts.

Oh, congrats on the new job, hope it goes well.

 

[sopappy]

I'm trying to keep up with Kraven hahaha, this should be fun. Well, here's one of two almost ready for the buckets. One came up two days after Kraven's but had a helmet on. The other is still slowly coming up the hole.
It bothers me leaving that hole uncovered but just like all things marijuana, I can't definitively say filling them in delayed the sprout or not.


update: I moved both to the buckets where they just gave up, did nothing for a week, so they've been chucked.
I planted 7 more of these seeds from Iron Seeds in Toronto in the rooters and check out that picture after a week.
Absolutely pathetic.. temp is 21 constant, no nutes, rooter plugs, I can't believe it's me now, I'm blaming these seeds.

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[sopappy]

I'm trying for one cola plants. (thanks, stoney buds and p jammers)
I trimmed all the branches but am now getting confused again. Here;s a picture of one of ten.
Do I stop trimming now? I'm looking at those two branches starting near the top and wondering if they should be cut (or is that the botttom of the cola forming?) These plants are much older than they look having spent half their life in shock.
Thery are 24hrs and I'm thinking of 12/12 in when they're about 18" tall.

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[Kraven]

I'm trying to keep up with Kraven hahaha, this should be fun. Well, here's one of two almost ready for the buckets. One came up two days after Kraven's but had a helmet on. The other is still slowly coming up the hole.
It bothers me leaving that hole uncovered but just like all things marijuana, I can't definitively say filling them in delayed the sprout or not.

Pappy it looks a bit wet for the seeds, never seen it done that way before. No need to catch up to me brother, I'm here to answer any questions I can and if i don't have the answer, i know where to find it. Greenest mojo, looks like the older plants are ready to flip?

 

[sopappy]

Pappy it looks a bit wet for the seeds, never seen it done that way before. No need to catch up to me brother, I'm here to answer any questions I can and if i don't have the answer, i know where to find it. Greenest mojo, looks like the older plants are ready to flip?

Well, leave it to me to improvise... I couldn't find those wee cups you use so I used that bowl, then, I needed the balls to keep the rooters standing up. 4 are empty, I only started 2. One is still only half way up the hole. I make sure there's always water in the bottom of that bowl.
Should I wait a bit when the bottom is dry?

I have to change my ventilation (thanks, THG) so I want to do that before 12/12

How noisy is that new motor?
I have 2 bucket and 3 buckets and may veg while the other flowers, I don't know whether to go 2 small motors or 1 big one.

I'm also thinking about something ZEM said about leaving a bigger gap for a "misting" a la aeroponics effect... I wonder if it would help any to cycle the air stones so the roots dry out a bit.

 

[sopappy]

210 LED draw is actually 175 W,
I cram two bins together under it for 2 x 2 sq ft.
but literature suggests 2 x 4 ft pattern, LED 2 1/2 feet away, that's 20 W per sq ft. Crummy. If I lower the lamp to a foot on the seedlings, will it harm them? Can I expect 40 W?
Literature be damned, I'll stay a fooot away as she grows.
I searched for LED burned plants, pictures, zip. Posts, hundreds.

 

[Kraven]

Did you get LED's Pappy ?

 

[sopappy]

Did you get LED's Pappy ?

Hmmmm, I thought I answered this last night...
Hey Kraven, yep, I bought them about 2 - 3 years ago and paid way too much but I do prefer them, not as scary when you bump your head on one either

 

[Kraven]

Pappy I was not trying to offend you, I just did not realize I had forgotten that little detail in all our conversations. I saw you doing LED math and was inquiring as I have given thoughts to maybe switching in the future. All the real time numbers I have been hearing are a min of 60w per sq ft up to 90w for the best effect. So it seemed your math would put you below the recommended draw.

 

[sopappy]

Pappy I was not trying to offend you, I just did not realize I had forgotten that little detail in all our conversations. I saw you doing LED math and was inquiring as I have given thoughts to maybe switching in the future. All the real time numbers I have been hearing are a min of 60w per sq ft up to 90w for the best effect. So it seemed your math would put you below the recommended draw.

None taken, old bean. I think outloud and was questioning my state of mind the previous evening. I've been having trouble, keeps logging me out and once wasn't even here (for me anyways) for couple o' days... I've stayed out of your new thread not posting much because I may have too much read mojo and that is bad for plants, red mojo? get it? I 'm afraid I've already jinxed you!
My seedling is lonely but I dropped another one down a hole and this one coming strangely. I sure wanna plug those holes.
I used silicone on my buckets so the wait is okay, i want to let it cure so using the T5s for now.
I'm trying two plants under 175W, 4 sq ft, 40 W ea., each plant should get 40 W, not too bad I'd say. i'm optimistic HA! And I'm keeping the LED within a foot, I'm probably misunderstanding.
If you're still there:
Is that motor noisy? I find 4 inch blowers noisy. Two stones in that "double" bucket. Pretty raucaus under that lid?
Do you have it constantly on or are you letting them dry out at all?

 

[Kraven]

if you're still there:
yea pappy, i'll always be here

is that motor noisy? I find 4 inch blowers noisy.
yea i run it with a muffler, its a 6 inch inline 146 cfm. Keeps my tent in neg pressure.

two stones in that "double" bucket. Pretty raucaus under that lid?
yea i get plenty of bubbling.

do you have it constantly on or are you letting them dry out at all?
yea it runs 24/7

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[sopappy]

Thanks kindly. Are yoiu concerned at all about having to chill your water?
I also think you're on to something with the bubbly bubbly ENO thing. I'm going to add that
Your plant looks great, mine, not so much, you'd think those rooter plugs would be idiot-proof. I guess not.


I'm struggling here as usual, haha, no pictures

 

[sopappy]

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Kraven, I don't know how you do it but you make it look easy. I'm still stumbling out of the starting gate here. This seedling was the only one of two to come up. In despair I just dumped the rest of the packet. Looks like two hopefuls I can salvage for the buckets. I think I hurt her tap root trying to plant the rooter plug in the clay balls. You can't make a hole with those balls. You can make a bowl but if the tap root is too long, do you just coil it and then fill in the balls?

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[Kraven]

Kraven, I don't know how you do it but you make it look easy. I'm still stumbling out of the starting gate here. This seedling was the only one of two to come up. In despair I just dumped the rest of the packet. Looks like two hopefuls I can salvage for the buckets. I think I hurt her tap root trying to plant the rooter plug in the clay balls. You can't make a hole with those balls. You can make a bowl but if the tap root is too long, do you just coil it and then fill in the balls?

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Your learning pappy and that takes time, I have been doing the same thing the same way for years(poping beans) so yes i do have it down to a science, but you will too...soon.

I just put the whole rapid rooter in and put the the hydroton around it. gonna run a chance of hurting the tap root as it is VERY fragile. If that last pic was a couple of days after you transplanted I would say it's ok, dunno....darn thing is a weed, hard to kill

Here is my little baby starting to grow a little.

http://www.marijuanapassion.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

 

[sopappy]

Your learning pappy and that takes time, I have been doing the same thing the same way for years(poping beans) so yes i do have it down to a science, but you will too...soon.

I just put the whole rapid rooter in and put the the hydroton around it. gonna run a chance of hurting the tap root as it is VERY fragile. If that last pic was a couple of days after you transplanted I would say it's ok, dunno....darn thing is a weed, hard to kill

Here is my little baby starting to grow a little.

http://www.marijuanapassion.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

I'd kill for a starter like that, things just go from bad to worse here so stay away !! too much red mojo!
I'm really starting to think that Iron Seeds in Toronto sold me garbage. Here's SEVEN more of their seeds planted 7 days ago, I mean, really, wth?
I can't really be *this* bad, can I?

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[Kraven]

Hmmm, whats the greenish color on the rapid rooters, is that just artifacts from the flash? You need a couple of things to germ, moisture, but not wet, that will just drown it. Needs to be above 70F I like to germ between 70-75. Your seeds do seem to be underwhelming but I'm not sure how they have been treated. Do this....get a rapid rooter wet, then squeeze it out, drop a bean in and take a paper clip and softly jam the bean down till you cant see it. open the kitchen cabinet and lean it against the inside back so it stands up in the back corner, close the door, expect to see a plant in 3-5 days. Don't touch it, don't look at it, just look to see if you have a plant at about the third day, then check it once a day, you can go in and out of the cabinet as much as you want, just don't touch or move the rooter till 5 days

 

[sopappy]

Don't touch it, don't look at it,

Trimmed forthe best part of the post !!
TOR is eating my posts, I responded earlier and it's gone now!

Hope you see this one, Kraven, first off, THANKS, I will follow instructions but already hitting a snag.
It's cool in there? 65 tops.
I sat two plugs in de-chlor' city water, 6.2, 100 ppm until saturated
then squeezed sides once, then rotated and squeezed once
throwing them but not releasing, I hear a slight, slight spray on a surface

I use tweezers and have two laughing buddha waiting to amaze me.
Probe in plug is 60 degrees! so I put a mat in there (sarright?).
I have not planted seeds yet.

Moss on my 9 other ones and you saying not to water these plugs AT ALL is giving me big clues as to what I'm doing wrong here

I'm taking the 7 and putting them in soil, maybe they'll recover.

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