Short Rider From Nivana, Dwc,90w Ufo

[4EVR420]

This is my first gj so please bare with me. I should probably start with a rundown of my system and nutrients. I am using 60q totes for my reservoir with 3 aquarium air pumps and several different airstones. The lighting is a 90w ufo led along with several supplemental 42w cfls. i am using advanced nutrients 3 part system(micro,grow,bloom),plus bud blood, big bud, carbo load,jumpstart,& overdrive. Because im not sure how big the short rider gets i am gunna start with only 3 plants in this reservoir, if everything goes well i will consider adding more netpots to the lid.:hubba: Also i am considering growing some of the free seeds i got, with my order, in soil just to see what they are started germ lastnite so hopefully by tonite i will have some babys. Here are some pix not much to see yet......

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

4Evr I was just taking a look at your pics and your def gonna need more light... If your UFO has the same ratio as mine 8:1 red to blue then your gonna def need to add alot more blue spectrum for the first 2-3 weeks so that those autos will grow as fast as possible otherwise your yield will be terrible... JMO tho... GL

 

[4EVR420]

JAAM, thanx for the tip. you dont think that the 90w led and 4 42w cfls will do the trick or should i add more cfls? i really dont want a crappy yeild the wife and i cant afford to keep buying when its 400 an ounce.

 

[nouvellechef]

GL, bro. My whole fam was in the same boat. We used to split oz's. Ridic. It cost alot to grow serious bud. But in the end, well some ppl's pics show some hard work and dedication. Set it up proper and you won't have to revisit the design all the time. Just lots of luv for it and keep it healthy. Now on to Short Rider. IMO, I hated it. I had 5 fem seeds, 4 went male. The other went full cycle, cool that it's a reall short flower, but it was real light and airy. Stony for sure. GL, and keep us posted.

PS, great starter strain!!

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

4Evr I hear that.... its over 400 an oz here so.... I didnt know you were gonna run 4 cfl... i only saw the one hanging in your tent... sorry...

The key ? is how many lumens each CFL puts out...?

 

[JustAnotherAntMarching]

4Evr Is your tent square or rectangle?

 

[4EVR420]

nouvellechef, yeah the prices are so rediculouse sometimes and to be honest im sick of having to drive to go get it, sometimes the risk just isnt worth it.. hopefully i have some better luck with mine than you did with yours and thanks for the heads up. 4EVR
jaam, each cfl is rated at 2800 lumens per, and the led is 3900 i believe. i should have specified howmany im using, the picture is alittle decieving thanx all 4 the support . I'M STARTING TO HAVE SERIOUSE MARIJUANA PASSIONS!!!

 

[4EVR420]

JAAM, the tents foot print i 36"x20" and is 5'2" tall simple answer being rectangle

 

[4EVR420]

I SHOULD HAVE WROTE THIS BEFORE THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND GROW SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ALL WILL BE LISTENED TO. first grow ended with root rot . man does that smell bad!

 

[nouvellechef]

Did you write down the mistakes you made the 1st time? You need to list a few things, get some opinions and pop back in once a week or so or if their are some probs.

1: Quality PH meter. I know, I know. Their $$$$. But I al telling you, you will save soooooooo much heartache if you know the exact PH and ppm of your water. It MUST be close to perfect throughout. Lose the MG and get a nutrient line with a schedule, you don't have to guess. Just run at 1/4 dose and move up from there. GL.

2: You did not speak of ventilation? So important dude.

Hope this helps. Bottom line, like I said, set it proper and keep your PH in line and you will have bud. Think 10 weeks or so from now, where will you be for more MJ for next grow? cuttings from SR? New seeds? Be prepared so you can practice this round and change it up if needed after your dry run.

 

[4EVR420]

nouvellechef, i did keep a daily journal written down for my first grow. i have 9 pages of everything i did from ph to ppm to nutrient doses and wrote down all the specific amounts. in my first grow i think i didnt supply enough o2 to the water, i have added an extra air pump to try and compensate for this. as far as the MG(u mean miracle grow)? im using advanced nutrients i have heard too many bad things about MG and wont take the chance of killing my crop i need this to work too badly. and for ventilation i have a 4"inline duct fan pulling fresh air in and to 6" circular fans to move the air in the tent. also, ihave 17 more seeds to plant so believe me im already thinking about the next grow, 7 are short rider and 10 are the freebies from nirvanas DEC.promo.
THANX FOR THE HELP hope this answered some more questions.

 

[pcduck]

Is your DWC lid opaque?

A grower does not want any light entering the tote.

Lose the MG

I thought he said this?

i am using advanced nutrients 3 part system(micro,grow,bloom),plus bud blood, big bud, carbo load,jumpstart,& overdrive.

:confused2::confused2:

 

[nouvellechef]

Ohh, srry. Blame it on the wake and bake with haze. Man.

 

[4EVR420]

High PCDUCK, the lid is opaque for now im gunna cver it with foil tape to reflect the light back up under the canopy. i have seen pictures of the algea that grows if you dont block the light and i dont want that. sorry i wasnt a little more specific. THANX

 

[fruity86]

you need to black out your lid dude sum people spray paint them with a good plastic paint and outher use duct tape to stop any light leaking in to your system

 

[4EVR420]

high everyone, dont know what happened up there my computer tweaked for a second.
Fruity, hopefully that last post answered your question, the foil tape for ducting does block the light completly. i used this in my stealth minifridge and it worked great, the underside of the canopy stayed well lit up and the plants were growing almost an inch a day. thanx for the post.

 

[4EVR420]

Good morning everyone at MP. I am very excited this morning, i woke up to find that 2 of 3 beans have a taproot coming out :clap: So i got out the 1.5" rockwool cubes to start soaking in distilled water with some jumpstart added in at 2ml/L. i put all 3 beans in the cubes, kinda hoping the 3rd bean pops in the cube. if not no big loss i still have plenty more beans to work with. once i put them in the cubes i put all three cubes into a clear tupperware with holes drilled in the side to try and keep the cubes moist longer. and now i wait for their little heads to pop out. i will post again as soon as i have some results.:watchplant:

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

high everyone, dont know what happened up there my computer tweaked for a second.
Fruity, hopefully that last post answered your question, the foil tape for ducting does block the light completly. i used this in my stealth minifridge and it worked great, the underside of the canopy stayed well lit up and the plants were growing almost an inch a day. thanx for the post.

When you post duplicate posts, you can delete them yourself.

You do not want the underside of the canopy well lit. Light to the underside of the leaves can cause them to stretch.

I didn't see you mention any exhaust in your ventilation set up. Plants need a continual supply of fresh air all the time the lights are on and "old" air needs to be exhausted.

I would recommend more/better light if you are going to want to grow enough to keep you and your wife in bud. And I think that you have room for more than 3 plants if you are growing autos. What are the dimensions of the tote you are using?

 

[4EVR420]

THG, thanx for letting me know about the lights on the underside, i had no idea, i just assumed that more was better. thankyou
About the exhaust fan, i am going to menards this weekend to get another inline duct fan, they are only $25. as for the lighting i am planning on picking a 400w hps/mh sometime in the near future. if the wife lets me, ive already dropped like $800 into every thing so far, she would like to see some product before she lets me get any thing else. the tote is 12.5Hx26.5Lx16.5W THANX again

 

[nouvellechef]

I hear ya. I dropped 5k and had to hear it non-stop for months. 1st grow sucked. So it got worse. Nada no more. She gets lippy, torch is fired up, SSH, end of arguing and on to eating good grub.

Show your girl my pics and tell her to chill, it takes practice. Stressful sometimes.