Paintball CO2 Tank Regulator ??? anyone?

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Ekoostik_Hookah

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hey.
so i have a few co2 tanks...where could i find a regulator to control the release of co2 from the tank???

I was thinking i could just screw it into my gun, then unscrew it untill it has a slow leak..

any ideas or know where i can find a regulator....let me know.
 
why?
a c02 tank isnt going to kill me.
or a paintball one atlease.
maybe a bigger tank would be to much c02 in the room....
 
thats what i used, a 20 oz bottle would empty every 24 hrs, bought some paintball part which i screwed on just the right distance to leak the bottle in a 24 hr span. I marked how far to screw it on, but i mostly new the sound:cool2:
 
I'm sure a local welding supply will have everything you need. I've seen controllers on ebay that include a timer to let gas into grow, but you need some kinda way to measure room co2. I've seen such meters, but they be pricey.
 
i wouldnt care the exact ppm in the room.
as long as i have a good supply of co2 going in....i dont really care beyond that....
 
Ekoostik_Hookah said:
hey.
so i have a few co2 tanks...where could i find a regulator to control the release of co2 from the tank???

I was thinking i could just screw it into my gun, then unscrew it untill it has a slow leak..

any ideas or know where i can find a regulator....let me know.
:holysheep:
I have a few guns and never thought of that. I have a couple of large refillable tanks (well large for guns, not the backpack ones)...why not hook to the gun with a small leak...I know that sound too! Great idea...thanks for that one.
 
might try to google green air or somit...but ya to control the C02 input ya gonna have to spend a few hundred like :)

really not worth it unless ya got big guns to make use of it:hubba:

IMHO a paint ball gun on a slow release thing is a waste of time and money...


.02
 
To find out how much C02 is needed to bring the growing area
to the ideal 2000 PPM, multiply the cubic area of the growing room
(length x width x height) by .002. The total represents the number
of square feet of gas required to reach optimum C02 range. For in-
stance, a room 13' x 18' x 12' contains 2808 cubic feet: 2808 x .002
equals 5.6 cubic feet of C02 required. The easiest way to supply the
gas is to use a C02 tank. All the equipment can be built from parts
available at a welding supply store or purchased totally assembled
from many growing supply companies. Usually tanks come in 20
and 50 pound sizes, and can be bought or rented. A tank which
holds 50 pounds has a gross weight of 170 pounds when filled.

A grow room of 500 cubic feet requires 1 cubic foot of C02
A grow room of 1000 cubic feet requires 2 cubic feet of C02
A grow room of 5000 cubic feet requires 10 cubic feet of C02
A grow room of 10,000 cubic feet requires 20 cubic feet of C02

To regulate dispersal of the gas, a combination flow
meter/regulator is required. Together they regulate the flow bet-
ween 10 and 50 cubic feet per hour. The regulator standardizes the
pressure and regulates the number of cubic feet released per hour.
A solenoid valve shuts the flow meter on and off as regulated by a
multicycle timer, so the valve can be turned on and off several times
each day. If the growing room is small, a short-range timer is need-
ed. Most timers are calibrated in hour increments, but a short-



range timer keeps the valve open only a few minutes.
To find out how long the valve should remain open, the
number of cubic feet of gas required (in our example 5.6 cubic feet)
is divided by the flow rate. For instance, if the flow rate is 10 cubic
feet per hour, 5.6 divided by 10 = .56 hours or 33 minutes (.56 x
60 minutes = 33 minutes). At 30 cubic feet per hour, the number of
minutes would be .56 divided by 30 x 60 minutes = 11.2 minutes.
The gas should be replenished every two hours in a warm, well-
lit room when the plants are over 3 feet high if there is no outside
ventilation. When the plants are smaller or in a moderately lit
room, they do not use the C02 as fast. With ventilation the gas
should be replenished once an hour or more frequently. Some
growers have a ventilation fan on a timer in conjunction with the
gas. The fan goes off when the gas is injected into the room. A few
minutes before the gas is injected in the room, the fan starts and
removes the old air. The gas should be released above the plants
since the gas is heavier than air and sinks. A good way to disperse
the gas is by using inexpensive "soaker hoses", sold in plant
nurseries. These soaker hoses have tiny holes in them to let out the
C02.
The C02 tank is placed where it can be removed easily. A hose
is run from the regulator unit (where the gas comes out) to the top
of the garden. C02 is cooler and heavier than air and will flow
downward, reaching the top of the plants first.
compliments of Ed Rosenthal..
 
Ideally you want to have a larger tank, the welding onse as suggested are ok but you would be better off getting one from air liquide or an outlet of theirs.

People use co2 tanks for large aquariums for co2 for marine life. I was looking on one of these forums and they suggested a place to get it from, if your in the uk then i can definitely tell you where to get some from.

The co2 you want to get is food grade co2, they use this in the aquariums and also for home bars to carbonate alcoholic and soft drinks.

You get yourself a large tank then you will need a regulator with solenoid a flow meter which will control the outlet flow rate this will then attach on to some dispersion tubing which should ideal run around the ceiling above the plants.

Co2 is heavier than oxygen so it will fall quite rapidly, its also good to have some fans beneath the plants to blow the co2 back up so the plants can continue to utilize it.

If you'd like an easy way of working out how much co2 you should be using and whatever then check out this easy calculator.

http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/co2_calculator.asp
 
Ekoostik_Hookah said:
i wouldnt care the exact ppm in the room.
as long as i have a good supply of co2 going in....i dont really care beyond that....

Paintball CO2 tanks wont do anything for your grow, dont wast your money.

If you cant get fresh air invest in a proper setup.
 
i dont see why not. It is co2 from 50lb tank, i used it. I have never grown, and dont even know if it helped or not, but it didnt hurt it. and all i payed was $15 the hole vegg stage. why doest "paintball co2" work?
 
That be costly Monthly if using those paint gun co2 wouldn't it be..
 
well depends, i got free refills, which normally cost $2. Mine is one time operation, shop ebay for keg tap co2 tanks, 10 pounds tank around $40, pretty cheap compared to the $200 price tag at the hydro shop (25lbs). they re-fill 25 pounds for $40, so say $20 each time you need to refill a 10er.
 
Growdude said:
Paintball CO2 tanks wont do anything for your grow, dont wast your money.

If you cant get fresh air invest in a proper setup.

ya but i have a small grow, and i think it would do something, wouldnt it.
I mean haveing a steady flow of co2, directly on your plants for 12 hours one day, and then 12 hours the next day would have to benifit the plant.
Isnt some better than none???
I dont really have the $ to go buy a big tank, and again its a small grow; and i have about 5 big full paintball c02 tanks.
I think im still going to add it.

and i also believe if i have the Temps just perfect for c02 intake, that the plants will deffinatly absorb the 5 tanks of c02.
 
Ekoostik_Hookah said:
ya but i have a small grow, and i think it would do something, wouldnt it.
I mean haveing a steady flow of co2, directly on your plants for 12 hours one day, and then 12 hours the next day would have to benifit the plant.
Isnt some better than none???
I dont really have the $ to go buy a big tank, and again its a small grow; and i have about 5 big full paintball c02 tanks.
I think im still going to add it.

and i also believe if i have the Temps just perfect for c02 intake, that the plants will deffinatly absorb the 5 tanks of c02.


a 2 hour nape in the grow will do the same ;)


.02
 
headband said:
i dont see why not. It is co2 from 50lb tank, i used it. I have never grown, and dont even know if it helped or not, but it didnt hurt it. and all i payed was $15 the hole vegg stage. why doest "paintball co2" work?

Its not that it doesnt work but there is just not enough in the paintball tanks.
If you cant maintain at least 1200 PPM and supply timed exhaust cycles it just will waste money.

Ive grown better just giving fresh air.
 
ok. I think you should still do it. It was cheap n easy
 
Growdude said:
Its not that it doesnt work but there is just not enough in the paintball tanks.
If you cant maintain at least 1200 PPM and supply timed exhaust cycles it just will waste money.

Ive grown better just giving fresh air.

thats not all true, the 1200 PPM is and you can come close with 2 20 oz tanks cracked in a 24 hrs period. My brother is a big math wiz and figured it all out on a Wendys napkin. I have had good results...
 

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