Hick said:
Lets face it, it isn't a "40 hour a week job". I've been closely associated with, or involved in agriculture most of my life. Only if you're growing on a HUGE scale(far far beyond any legal limitations) is this line of "gardening" going to consume 40 hours p/week. (
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Dang it, I was clocking in overtime with that!
But really, this is a fairly true statement, imo. MOST folks do not spend that amount of time, as the scale would be big. But, some collectives out here do have folks that tend the HUGE gardens 40 hours a week. But, that is a Collective grow, with plant numbers exceeding 1000, and yes, they are out there. This is legal in California. But, as we all know, a garden that size attracts Federal LEO. It's such a FINE line. Santa Cruz has huge Gardens like this, and are public about it.
So, my point is each State has it's own "rules" regarding limitations, and Cali has the most liberal (who would have guessed!).
Hick said:
That said, I won't put on a 'holier than thou' attitude, I have on occasion sold a bag or two in my day. I won't attempt to deny that. But I am NOT in business, nor have I ever expected to be paid or charged anyone that I held a card to grow for. I have accepted donations of soil, nutes, ect. but never have I said "this is going to cost you X amount of dollars".
NV brought about an excellent point of view IMO..."they are doing YOU a favor" by giving you some semblance of 'protection'/legality from the just-us system.
Interesting. In your State Hick, If a person delegates you as the Caregiver, then you get to grow thier numbers also? Or, if you grow for multiple folks, you operate under a "collective"? Just curious, it's interesting to see how the other states are starting to handle the "grey areas".
I tottaly agree with the fact that you should NEVER charge the folks that designate you a "caregiver" if your state allows that, because they are tryin' yo protect your butt too. Your job as "caregiver" is to ensure they have thier meds for free, not even at cost imo, but free. If, even off 6 plants, you can't get enough to hook them up for 2-3months, AND have excess to pay for the whole trip, then you shouldn't be a MMJ Caregiver. I understand that it may take folks a while to get a grip on how to grow, but you are doing both the person you are "caregiving" for and yourself a disservice by fronting as a MMJ grower.
Ahhh...Terminology. A simple term like "caregiver" brings up many different opinions in all our eyes. This was a HUGE debate out here, and we all have our own thoughts. That is why we redifined the law and the term "caregiver" because it was too much a legal grey area.
Instead, we allowed collectives to maintain Big grows that support many folks.
Folks, imo, not much has changed man in the last 20 years if you look at the big picture. We are all arguing about what is "MMJ" when we all(at least us older folks) grew and smoked before the term was even coined.
People are going to Smoke it, Grow it and thats that. Us older folks do have "medical" reasons for tokin up now, just because we are older and have more health issues. But, that sure didn't stop us back in the '80s, at least me.
The BEST thing to come from all of this is that "Brick weed" from Mexico and other herb from other countries is almost all gone, or, is fast becoming the way of the dinosaur. The MMJ movement has changed the views on MJ for millions of folks and acceptance is becoming the norm, not the exception.
Some great converstions here lately, very heated, but very informative. Times are changing folks.
I will be out of town for a few daze, so if I don't respond, thats why.
Take care everyone!