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If NCH takes the job, he will be a part of it in some way or another
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the goal here is not to grow cannabis for California...but the world. After rescheduling the 2nd agenda is to petition the United Nations for world legalization.
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good for him, i love that guy, always have.... He wouldn't sell out to Monstanto.. I have seen pictures of very good friend of mines that has the greenhouses, football size greenhouse with cannabis, but there would be no benefit to grow gmo'd pot. and these warehouses are organice and they are in cali.. Why would gmo's be necessary there? they wouldn't be..
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I'm no Dr. or health nut or anything but...
http://restore4life.com/ has had helped both the wife's IBS and my Colitis
https://vimeo.com/119901967
LONG version:
https://vimeo.com/155923727
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Oh, i am a health food nut and I am all about probiotics. I have been gluten free for 10 years or so.. had the **** test and everything. tmi rosebud. My friend has crohn's and has tried everything.. i will send her this link, Thanks Joe. She is grain free, paleo.. I am very glad this helps your wife.
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Rose Yes they can !-- Commercial weed and they gonna TAKE 80% of the market !---There's problems trying grow our regular diploid weed in huge fields -- Wild pollen !-- Or a pissed off Stoner pilot who flys over thier field and chunks out a couple fist fulls of ditch weed seed !--That field is finished !-- They don't want seedy weed !
So how do U get weed that U can grow outside and not worry about seed ?--- Doubling the DNA --Makes 4 strands of DNA !-- When U breed the new plant gets half of it's DNA from mom and the other half from dad !-- In the case of breeding a tetra to a regular diploid -- U get half from mom which is one strand and half from the dad which is 2 strands !-- The new plant has 3 strands of DNA a triploid !-- It can divide it's DNA because U can't split 3 in half !-- So the plant can't can't be fertilized in theory so there shouldn't be any seed !-- It's hard to beat nature sometimes there are seed or undeveloped seed like in a seedless melon !-
Plants with odd numbers of DNA strands are sterile !-- So the next chance at true seedless is at 5n-- To make a 5n plant -- U do the genetic doubling like I'm doing to make a 4n tetra -- U then breed it to a normal 2n plant making them sterile 3n seed -- U treat those seed to do the genetic doubling which gives U a 6n plant like Billy Budd's Sequoia! -- U breed that 6n to a 4n tetraploid -- The seed will be true sensimillia! -- Nothing in nature can fertilize them !--- 5n feminized seed seems like the golden ring but it's not !-- Higher n# the harder to grow and need at least an extra 30% veg time ! It's not practical on a large scale !
Rose nailed it !-- They can only do this in warehouses !
I said they would take 80% of the market !--That 20% of specialized and top top shelf weed is our domain !!-- It will cost more than commercial but that's our niche !
So how do U get weed that U can grow outside and not worry about seed ?--- Doubling the DNA --Makes 4 strands of DNA !-- When U breed the new plant gets half of it's DNA from mom and the other half from dad !-- In the case of breeding a tetra to a regular diploid -- U get half from mom which is one strand and half from the dad which is 2 strands !-- The new plant has 3 strands of DNA a triploid !-- It can divide it's DNA because U can't split 3 in half !-- So the plant can't can't be fertilized in theory so there shouldn't be any seed !-- It's hard to beat nature sometimes there are seed or undeveloped seed like in a seedless melon !-
Plants with odd numbers of DNA strands are sterile !-- So the next chance at true seedless is at 5n-- To make a 5n plant -- U do the genetic doubling like I'm doing to make a 4n tetra -- U then breed it to a normal 2n plant making them sterile 3n seed -- U treat those seed to do the genetic doubling which gives U a 6n plant like Billy Budd's Sequoia! -- U breed that 6n to a 4n tetraploid -- The seed will be true sensimillia! -- Nothing in nature can fertilize them !--- 5n feminized seed seems like the golden ring but it's not !-- Higher n# the harder to grow and need at least an extra 30% veg time ! It's not practical on a large scale !
Rose nailed it !-- They can only do this in warehouses !
I said they would take 80% of the market !--That 20% of specialized and top top shelf weed is our domain !!-- It will cost more than commercial but that's our niche !
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what's the BEST probiotic out there?
I don't what 100 billion of the SAME strain though
its about diversity
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what's the BEST probiotic out there?
I don't what 100 billion of the SAME strain though
its about diversity
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[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Renew-Life-Ultimate-Probiotic-Formerly/dp/B00FPNZBVA/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461603749&sr=1-1&keywords=renew+life+ultimate+flora+extra+care+probiotic+50+billion[/ame]
The ones of this brand that we get are about 35 bucks locally.
And on another note, just in from outside...I ordered 1500 lady bugs for the aphids on the roses... I think they like it here..View attachment DSCF4219.jpg
The ones of this brand that we get are about 35 bucks locally.
And on another note, just in from outside...I ordered 1500 lady bugs for the aphids on the roses... I think they like it here..View attachment DSCF4219.jpg
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Keef, you are probably right .
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oh-my!
3's a crowed! bug-off buddy!
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oh-my!
3's a crowed! bug-off buddy!
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bug porn, couldn't resist.. Those lady bugs and man bugs were doing that right out of the bag even before they had a drink of water... This is the kind of mood i am in ... all upset about gmo pot. lol
Sadly Umbra is right, it has already begun and we are three years behind the curve already, only chance at keeping strains pure is the outlaw farmers now. Reschedule, crush the small farmer, GMO and then move on to mass production. Re-class will come in 2017, by 2020 it will be all but over.
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Someone needs to tell me how and with what they are going to gmo please.
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I may have said too much. I didn't tell these things to piss you off or make you feel bad Rose. But so that you can prepare and get ready. Forewarned is forearmed. No one can stop this. There is way too much money involved. While GMO may not be necessary, they are definitely doing it. Whether it is for genetic markers to prove they own the plant or some other equally pernicious reasons...it is a done deal.
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And the way they are going to sell this to the United Nations, it's all about the children. The ones with epilepsy or MS or IBS or whatever.
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Umbra, you are just the messenger I am not mad at you, but this topic does raise my bp. It makes me want to fight like nothing else does. I won't even compost corn if is not organic...My dad would roll his eyes. This is not a new subject for me.
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Thank you Rose. I think that Monsanto and their partners don't want people to know what they are doing because of your reaction. IMO your reaction is the same as the majority of people in this country. In Europe they are even more vocal about GMO and it could create a massive PR nightmare for the big AG here. I am all about the plant in its natural state
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What up O.F.C. ?--- Had a nap !-- Wake and Bake all over again !--- GMO weed ?-- Everytime U breed a plant U are genetically modifying it !-- Man made corn what it is today !-- We have to plant corn or it would disappear because it can't propagate itself in the wild !
Anyway I think Umbra be wrong about the future of weed !--- The Germans have a genetically modified yeast that produces THC !--- So why would big pharm plant huge fields of genetically altered weed when they could "grow" THC in vats just like they make beer -- 24/7/365 !--- add some CBDs and all the meds made from weed can be made in a factory !--- Like they say -- Smoking is bad U should use this new medical oil !
We got 20% of the market our job is to find a specialty niche !--
Anyway I think Umbra be wrong about the future of weed !--- The Germans have a genetically modified yeast that produces THC !--- So why would big pharm plant huge fields of genetically altered weed when they could "grow" THC in vats just like they make beer -- 24/7/365 !--- add some CBDs and all the meds made from weed can be made in a factory !--- Like they say -- Smoking is bad U should use this new medical oil !
We got 20% of the market our job is to find a specialty niche !--
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I disagree that when you breed you are genetically modifying it. You are creating a genome type, but you are not modifying the chromosome or their natural sequence of nucleic acids.
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Keef, I was given a glimpse a big AG's playbook. However, I can only speculate about why they have not done gmo yeast, and it would be because they can not control it. We are not talking about big Pharm, we are talking about food conglomerates. Massive industrial farms that will grow for 20,000,000 people or so.
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