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budz4me

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Hey all! I have been reading this forum for a few months now. Let me introduce myself a little here.

I am an avid hunter/fisher. I enjoy golf, baseball and the NFL. I have been growing veggies and fruits for 4 years now. I listen to mostly heavy/hard rock music.

Ok enough about me, and more about my garden.


My soil: Mostly a home mixture of 25% compost (that i create), 25% perlite/vermiculite, and 50% organic soil.

My light: CFL's for now. I am currently running 22k lumens. 80% 6700k/20% 2700k now for vegging.

CFM's: I currently have a 4" vent at the top of my box direct piped into my HVAC return duct. There I have a 16 MERV HEPA Aircleaner, after is passes through there, it enters my hole home U/V light air cleaner. Smell will not be an issue!

At 4" i should have around 60CFM of flow. Having a 2x2x5 box....that should in theory be ok.

Seeds: Bag seeds here.....decent stuff, but no guarantees from here on out.


More to come, including some pics.

PS, due to the circumstance I have started all the seeds outside in my garden. I have cleaned the pots and tools I used prior to transferring them inside.
 
Green mojo :) The most important tip to start with is patience :eek: and the last important tip for growing MJ is patience. For growing MJ, forget everything else you know about growing other stuff because while the basics of horticulture do apply for growing MJ, it all has to be translated to the language that only MJ speaks. Its not difficult but it demands you do it her way or no way :)
 
The biggest risk with bringing outside plants in is pests. Make sure that the plants themselves are inspected well. If you do not have an oscillating fan on them, you need one, in addition to the exhaust fan. This moves the air around and encourages strong stem development. This ventilation system may not work later as the plants get smelly. Not sure if a house filter like that will deal with the smell of cannabis, but that is down the road.
 
budz4me said:
Hey all! I have been reading this forum for a few months now. Let me introduce myself a little here.

I am an avid hunter/fisher. I enjoy golf, baseball and the NFL. I have been growing veggies and fruits for 4 years now. I listen to mostly heavy/hard rock music.

Ok enough about me, and more about my garden.


My soil: Mostly a home mixture of 25% compost (that i create), 25% perlite/vermiculite, and 50% organic soil.

My light: CFL's for now. I am currently running 22k lumens. 80% 6700k/20% 2700k now for vegging.

CFM's: I currently have a 4" vent at the top of my box direct piped into my HVAC return duct. There I have a 16 MERV HEPA Aircleaner, after is passes through there, it enters my hole home U/V light air cleaner. Smell will not be an issue!

At 4" i should have around 60CFM of flow. Having a 2x2x5 box....that should in theory be ok.

Seeds: Bag seeds here.....decent stuff, but no guarantees from here on out.


More to come, including some pics.

PS, due to the circumstance I have started all the seeds outside in my garden. I have cleaned the pots and tools I used prior to transferring them inside.

another outdoor guy, cool.. i love feminized seeds. for sure females. there are hundreds of seed banks. goggle " SINGLE SEED CENTRE" pick a favorite fem., and order. much fun.. WELCOME :D
 
The trouble with bagseed is that you only know 1/2 the genetics. It could be pollen from some ditch weed growing wild or it could have selfed, which greatly increases the chances of hermies. I really recommend buying good seeds with stable genetics when first starting out. You should decide what kind of high you want from your bud and look for a strain that answers those needs.

I personally am not a big fan of fem seeds, but to each their own.

I have used a bunch of seed banks over the years, but these 3 the most. I use Attitude seed bank a lot. I also order from Hemp Depot in Canada. They do not take credit or debit cards, you have to send in a money order or cash. I have also ordered from Nirvana numerous times.
 
Wow thanks for all the input, I have always thought this forum is the place to be....much love is spread!

The Hemp Goddess said:
The biggest risk with bringing outside plants in is pests. Make sure that the plants themselves are inspected well. If you do not have an oscillating fan on them, you need one, in addition to the exhaust fan. This moves the air around and encourages strong stem development. This ventilation system may not work later as the plants get smelly. Not sure if a house filter like that will deal with the smell of cannabis, but that is down the road.

Yes THG, I am with you on all that. I have sprayed them with an organic rosemary extract and have so far found no signs. I have an oscillating fan now, and I am expecting the whole home air cleaner to fail...as that is the way I have come to know mechanical things lol. I will probably invest in a carbonized filter as well. I will tell you 10 minutes after dinner is cooked...the smell is gone.

As far as bag seeds go....I was kinda trying to get my feet wet before I went and bought seeds I would eventually kill.
 
I hear ya budz.
I started on bag seed. It makes for an interesting learning lesson. Could go good could go bad. But you have the chances of identifying all 3 sexes. (Male/female/hermie).
Seeds aren't all that bad. N when you do get good gens it makes the learning curve easier. Either or. Your gonna learn.
LH.
 
Hushpuppy said:
Green mojo :) The most important tip to start with is patience :eek: and the last important tip for growing MJ is patience. For growing MJ, forget everything else you know about growing other stuff because while the basics of horticulture do apply for growing MJ, it all has to be translated to the language that only MJ speaks. Its not difficult but it demands you do it her way or no way :)


No doubt! I have read that over and over again! How can such a hardy plant be more sensitive than peppers!

Right now I am dealing with purple stems on the upper branches...leads me to think a lack of nitrogen. Not sure how thats possible with the compost I use..but we shall see. THanks for your input! Spread that mojo!
 
welcome to the family budz. looks like you did some research before u jump into the deep in. i do agree with mom/thg about bag seed. about not knowing where it came from what the parents were like and if it hermie's
at the slight's sign of stress. but you can get some good stuff off of bagseeds
i started growing with bagseed. i took bagseed from the west and east of my city took the best from the west and east breed to them. grew them out until i found what worked for me . it was good but not that good still had to order seeds from the net to add alil punch to my strain . got a mix pack from marijuana seeds ni grew the pack out took the two best males and breed them with my hybird bag seed lady. i am now the process of trying to add ata tunder from seedsman to the mix. it justs takes time and space and you will get what you want . if you need help just ask we live to help at mp. most of all have fun growing
 
What is the organic rosemary extract for?

Well, since I started growing so long ago, all we had was bagseed--we really didn't know any better. Then, in 98 a friend of ours helped us set up our first real serious indoor grow--no more fluorescents. We stepped right up to a 400W MH and a 1000W HPS. We thought our bagseed was great until we tasted the bud he grew with seeds from Amsterdam. The quantity was better, too. However, even in the last 15 years things have changed a lot and I believe the quality of the bagseed is better now than then. Hermies however keep me recommending "store bought" seeds. One hermie can ruin an entire crop. It is heartbreaking to spend 4 months or more growing something to have it totally seeded at the end. This could have been prevented with $50 or less spent on good genetics. Just my 2 cents here.

Purple stems do not indicate lack of N. You might want to read up on the nutrient needs of cannabis and what different deficiencies look like. Also, I do not believe that there is any way that compost alone is going to take a cannabis plant all the way through, no matter how good the compost is. I use NV's super soil, which is a great super soil, but still have to supplement with organic teas. How old are your plants? Pictures?
 
THG, I WILL be purchasing seeds soon. Your argument is too strong :).

I am currently not using my computer, once I have it fixed I will post pics.

My plants in the grow box are both around 5 weeks old. One is only like 8 inches tall. The other is about triple that in size. Both are very bushy and healthy (just some purple color in the top branch stems). I have several outside that are around 4 weeks old....they are much smaller and nowhere near as bushy.

PS I read up about the N def. You are 100% right.
 
The Hemp Goddess said:
What is the organic rosemary extract for?


Ill take a pic of that too. It is a non-chem spray for mites, aphids, and the like. A preventative spray mind you, I think once you get them it wont help at all.
 
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budz4me said:

when my girls are happy, my upper leaves point upward at 30- 45 degrees. they look good, but maybe light hungry. jmo :icon_smile:
 
Newbietoo said:
when my girls are happy, my upper leaves point upward at 30- 45 degrees. they look good, but maybe light hungry. jmo :icon_smile:

I was wondering whats up with that. A few more paychecks and I will be upgrading my venting first. Going with a 6" induction fan/charcoal filter combo. With all those CFL's I can only keep my temps at 79 with lights on.

Then my next purchase I was thinking something like the Apollo 400W HPS/MH air cooled combo.


PS any chance a mod can move this into the GJ section? I just realized this isnt posted in the correct area.
 
Its a girl! 11 inches tall and nice and bushy. When to flower? Hmmm I have a 5ft tall box.......

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How old is she.
My eyes ain't what they use to be. But lt kinda looks like you don't have alternating nodes.
How can u tell its a girl. You have pistil confirmation??
It cannot be flowered till sexually mature n from seed that generally takes 4-6 weeks.
11". It will double if not a lil more.
LH.
 
LEFTHAND said:
How old is she.
My eyes ain't what they use to be. But l

5 weeks from seed. Since I am brand new at this...let me c if I can get my iphone inthere to snap a photo of the stem/nodes



No way I could get a clear pic in that bush. But at each branch take off, there are 2 small growths, what I can describe as looking like wiskers growing out of the middle of the junction there.
 

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