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Isn't msnbc more liberal, and cnn leans right? Is there a news station that isn't biased g13, I'd love to find one. After your post the other day it really got me thinking. I switched channels and saw things from the other perspective. I appreciate you pointing that out. :)
 
Isn't msnbc more liberal, and cnn leans right? Is there a news station that isn't biased g13, I'd love to find one. After your post the other day it really got me thinking. I switched channels and saw things from the other perspective. I appreciate you pointing that out. :)


almost all news is slanted right or left.......... to be well informed and not led around like a sheep on a short rope it is important to get your news from many sources........ even if its not your kool aid flavor it is important to learn about all sides of an issue..... and always reject those who say its my kool aid and nobody else's unless you like being a sheep........ if not you'll just be left reading threads like this instead and just agreeing with what somebody told you to believe is true.
 
I've been thinking a lot about this after seeing things from both sides and here's my conclusion- these are only my opinions.

Trump can say whatever he wants at his rallys. They are his rallys after all. His supporters come to hear his message and see if he's worthy of their vote. Without distractions from the haters, they could decide they don't like the guy after all.

I'm guessing most, if not all of the protesters are Hillary or Bernie supporters. If they really want to look better then republican candidates on the other side, why not be the bigger person and urge the protesters to stop attending those rallys and to use that energy on getting their candidates more votes? Plead for the violence to stop.

I'm thinking the protesters want to get trump riled up more, get him more angry and cause him to keep acting in his typical fashion? How is this right? I also heard the trouble in Chicago the other day was an organized group of Bernie supporters. While I doubt Sanders had anything to do with them protesting, it is discouraging to me that they feel it's ok to crash the rally with no repercussions.

Again..Hillary and Bernie could strongly urge the trump haters to just leave the man alone. Let him speak to his supporters without being interrupted. Show him who the bigger person here is. The supporters might hear what trump has to say and figure out on their own if his (ridiculous?) speeches is worth earning their vote.

I'm getting tired of the ** on all sides. Someone needs to be the bigger person and that would really work in their favor. In fact, Bernie could score a lot of brownie points and steal some Hillary thunder by getting tough and urging the violent protests to stop now. Be very vocal..and see if people listen to his message. Heck, he might even win over a few republicans!!!

I'd hate to see trump supporters turn the tables and start crashing the democratic rallys. I bet that will be happening very soon. Treat violence with more violence????

For the record, Sanders still gets my vote, at least for now. This is the perfect opportunity for him to step up and show if he has what it takes to be a strong leader of our country.
 
SM there is no such thing as a strong "democratic socialist" leader........ imho...... they all push overs...... no balls...... the world will run over Bernie if he gets elected...... which ain't gonna happen...... Hillary is the chosen one...... Hillary is counting on getting the Bernie fans mad enough at Trump to turn out and vote her....... let's see if the sheep follow the madness.
 
Trump can say whatever he wants at his rallys. They are his rallys after all. His supporters come to hear his message and see if he's worthy of their vote. Without distractions from the haters, they could decide they don't like the guy after all.

The Bill of Rights says differently. Not sure if you lived through the 60's, but I can't imagine people not standing up to the Civil Rights injustices and just saying, let the Racists and Bigots have their rallies don't protest.
Trump's Free Speech is not being infringed upon despite what he says. People protesting have the right to assemble and exercise their Freedom of Speech as well.

Assembly

Assembly is the only right in the First Amendment that requires more than a lone individual for its exercise. One can speak alone; one cannot assemble alone. Moreover, while some assemblies occur spontaneously, most do not. For this reason, the assembly right extends to preparatory activity leading up to the physical act of assembling, protections later recognized by the Supreme Court as a distinct “right of association,” which does not appear in the text of the First Amendment.

The right of assembly often involves non-verbal communication (including the message conveyed by the very existence of the group). A demonstration, picket-line, or parade conveys more than the words on a placard or the chants of the crowd. Assembly is, moreover, truly “free,” since it allows individuals to engage in mass communication powered solely by “sweat equity.”

The right to assemble has been a crucial legal and cultural protection for dissenting and unorthodox groups. The Democratic-Republican Societies, suffragists, abolitionists, religious organizations, labor activists, and civil rights groups have all invoked the right to assemble in protest against prevailing norms. When the Supreme Court extended the right of assembly beyond the federal government to the states in its unanimous 1937 decision, De Jonge v. Oregon, it recognized that “the right of peaceable assembly is a right cognate to those of free speech and free press and is equally fundamental.”

The right of assembly gained particular prominence in tributes to the Bill of Rights as the United States entered the Second World War. Eminent twentieth-century Americans, including Dorothy Thompson, Zechariah Chafee, Louis Brandeis, John Dewey, Orson Welles, and Eleanor Roosevelt, all emphasized the significance of the assembly right. At a time when civil liberties were at the forefront of public consciousness, assembly figured prominently as one of the original “Four Freedoms” (along with speech, press, and religion). When, however, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt switched to a different grouping of “four freedoms” in an effort to rally support for American entry into WWII, assembly (and press) dropped out. Neglect of assembly as a freestanding right has continued ever since. In fact, the Supreme Court has not decided a case explicitly on free assembly grounds in over thirty years. But despite its recent state of hibernation, the freedom to assemble peaceably remains integral to what Justice Robert Jackson once called “the right to differ.”
 
Alright then...is Bernie ready to have his party crashed? It's coming. Too bad he doesn't have the balls to try and stop it.
 
Alright then...is Bernie ready to have his party crashed? It's coming. Too bad he doesn't have the balls to try and stop it.


:yeahthat: Hillary is the only one that's going to crash the Bernie party........ I don't expect the Trump supporters to go to a Bernie rally and do the in your face thingy like the other side does...... now they will stand their ground if you come to confront them ........ what does that suggest?
BTW I hope yall realize I have no dog in this fight...... I'm stuck once again choosing between the lesser of two wrong sides........ our federal govt is way bigger and exercises way more power over peeps than it was ever supposed to.......
 
I like Rachel Maddow. i have watched fox news and CNN. I wish i could have taken her class that she taught with a PHD ...it would have been a great class.

This is looking more like 1968 than I can stomach. Those were college kids, on a college campus.. Someone has to stop trump... I am telling you.. i am old and have lived thru this before... He is inciting violence, and he should know better. this is poweder keg.. It will not end well.
 
I like Rachel Maddow. i have watched fox news and CNN. I wish i could have taken her class that she taught with a PHD ...it would have been a great class.

This is looking more like 1968 than I can stomach. Those were college kids, on a college campus.. Someone has to stop trump... I am telling you.. i am old and have lived thru this before... He is inciting violence, and he should know better. this is poweder keg.. It will not end well.


She'd fail me in her class because I wouldn't drink Kool-Aid....... she would say I'm rude and ignorant for questioning the biased indoctrination she wants you to buy as tried and true......... and I'd be likely to cause the bad depression problems she suffers from to grow worse.
 
Democratic Socialism......

◦Replaces the family with the state as the central unit in society
◦Undermines the family by redistributing its wealth and indoctrinating its children in government schools
◦Allows legalized theft in the name of redistributing wealth
◦Encourages sloth instead of productivity
◦Rewards irresponsibility, laziness, and poor accountability
◦Encourages self-indulgence instead of self-reliance
◦Encourages finger pointing and shifting of responsibility to others
◦Replaces the self-discipline of delayed gratification with the need for instant gratification
◦Undermines the values that are the foundation of the traditional work ethic (i.e. thrift, diligence, self-reliance, self-discipline, responsibility, accountability, deferred gratification, and hard work) and replaces them with an entitlement mentality
◦Treats those who contribute to the betterment of society the same as those who do not, even when they are capable of doing so
◦Promotes a get-something-for-nothing mentality that undermines the moral character of the individual and society
◦Robs people of initiative, drive, and ambition
◦Undermines the spirit of entrepreneurship, innovation, and competitiveness
◦Promotes totalitarianism, thereby undermining freedom and liberty
 
To me, a silent, peaceful protest speaks louder than a noisy one.
 
After nearly a week of watching their campaign commercials. I have decided they are all bozos and think that we are dumb.

With that in mind, I have made up my mind and am going to cast my vote for me, aaaaagin. My campaign slogan will be "Legal Weed for all States".:bong:



I can't wait for the polls to close tomorrow.
 
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