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[Locked]

One more thing. I believe Bernie tops everyone in the amount of votes received so far in Primaries. That says a lot. I still don't know if I can cast a vote for $Hillary if it comes down to that. I want to keep the RepubliKKKans out of the White House but not sure if I can stomach voting for her. And that is why she has no chance of winning in November. People don't like or trust her. Okay enough. Sorry for the Politics. Back to phone banking.

 

[Rosebud]

I love your passion Hammy, I hope everyone has it so as to stop trump. I have nothing against socialism.. I mean, might as well give it a whirl.

Duck, that was pretty clever.

I too would be mortified if Trump was out president. I am so glad my mom isn't alive to see him. :~)

 

[Rosebud]

Hamster. Tell me what you most distrust about Hillary? Ben Gaza, Emails? Monica?

 

[grass hopper]

Donald Trump, “King of Whoppers”
Donald Trump leads the pack of candidates—in the worst way.
By THOMAS G. DONLAN

January 2, 2016
Happy New Year? What’s there to be happy about in such an election year? The trend has gone down so long: Printing press, telegraph, rotary printing press, newsreels, radio, television, the World Wide Web, Twitter. One after the other, technologies have accelerated the diffusion of lies and defamation.
Early in the era of mass media, it was said that “A lie can travel halfway around the world, while the truth is putting on its shoes.” (Attributing it to Mark Twain was a lie itself and the truth hasn’t caught up.) And Jonathan Swift said much the same a couple of hundred years earlier, in the dark ages of media: “Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it.”
But barefoot, limping legions of fact-checkers carry on, as American politicians and public-policy activists generate dubious claims, confused assertions, mixed messages, and outright falsehoods faster than fact-checkers can catalog and contradict them.
Founded in 2003, FactCheck.org became the first independent gang of journalists measuring the distance from political attack to verifiable fact. PolitiFact (a project of the Tampa Bay Times) and the Washington Post Fact Checker soon followed, and other news organizations have organized similar efforts.
A dozen years ago, some hoped that impartial checking of political charges would force politicians and their advisors to be more cautious, using charges that would withstand close scrutiny. They were dreaming. Worse, they contributed to the problem.
As fact-checking grew more common, it became clearer than ever that almost every candidate lied, or at least put such a favorable spin on their stories that nothing could be accepted without a lengthy footnote. Of course, most people don’t read footnotes.
At that point, it was almost inevitable that somebody would see public cynicism as an opportunity, instead of a problem.
Nobody Does It Better
In the 2015 stage of the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump used false statements to express fundamental truths about his views.
For example, it’s not true that, as he said, he saw “thousands and thousands of people cheering” in Jersey City, N.J., as the World Trade Center towers fell on Sept. 11, 2001. It never happened. It was never on television, and reporters could not find witnesses of the alleged celebration.
American TV did show thousands cheering in several Middle Eastern cities, so Trump could have been confused. But the mistake, if it was one, became a lie after fact- checkers exposed it and Trump persisted, denouncing them. Politically, Trump’s denunciation of Muslims in America underscored his fear of terrorists and his desire to control, suppress, and expel millions of people because some might be terrorists or sympathizers. The lie expressed the fact that Trump feels that way, just as some Americans do.
FactCheck.org recently created a new title for Trump: “King of Whoppers,” citing the 9/11 claim and many more.
To quote FactCheck.org:
“Trump boasted that he ‘predicted Osama bin Laden.’ A book Trump published in 2000 mentioned bin Laden once, and predicted nothing about bin Laden’s future plans.
“Trump ‘heard’ that Obama is ‘thinking about signing an executive order where he wants to take your guns away.’ If so, he misheard. What Obama reportedly considered was requiring large-volume private gun dealers to conduct background checks, not confiscating firearms from those who own them.
“Trump said he ‘heard’ the Obama administration plans to accept 200,000 Syrian refugees—even upping that wildly inaccurate number to 250,000 in another speech. Nope and nope. The number is about 10,000.
“Trump said he got to know [Russian leader Vladimir] Putin ‘very well’ while the two were on CBS’ 60 Minutes. The two men were interviewed separately, in different countries thousands of miles apart.
“Trump claimed his campaign is ‘100%’ self-funded. At the time, more than 50% of his campaign’s funds had come from outside contributors.
“Trump said his tax plan is revenue-neutral. The pro-business Tax Foundation estimated that the proposal would reduce revenues to the Treasury by more than $10 trillion over 10 years, even assuming his plan would create economic growth.
“Trump told the story of a two-year-old who got autism a week after the child got a vaccine. But there’s no evidence of such a link. The study that claimed to have found a link between vaccines and autism has been exposed as an ‘elaborate fraud.’ It was retracted five years ago by the journal that published it, and the author was stripped of his license to practice medicine in Britain.
“Trump said Mexico doesn’t have a birthright citizenship policy. It does.
“Trump claimed credit for getting Ford Motor to move a plant from Mexico to Ohio. Ford says it made the decision years before Trump even announced his run for president.
“Trump denied that he ever called female adversaries some of these things: ‘fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.’ He used all of those terms.
“Trump said in June ‘there are no jobs,’ when official statistics were showing 5.4 million job openings—the most in 15 years.
“Trump claimed economic growth in the U.S. has ‘never’ been below zero until the third quarter of 2015. ‘Who ever heard of this?’ he asked. Except it’s not unheard of. Economic growth has been below zero 42 times since 1946.”
More Trouble Ahead
Mark Twain also didn’t say, “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”
So far, Trump hasn’t gotten into enough trouble. We’re waiting for his supporters to realize that no cause can be well served by reckless disregard of the truth.
As FactCheck.org and other fact-checkers have observed, Trump is just the king of whoppers, not the only one telling them. The organizations have also highlighted preposterous and mendacious statements by Democrats and other Republicans, too numerous to squeeze onto this page. Readers should visit the fact-checkers’ Websites for details.
All candidates should be judged by their principles—and we should presume they have no principles if they can’t tell the truth about the facts supporting them.

 

[grass hopper]

go ham, rose, THG. All well read growers and VOTERS! CONGRATS!!!

 

[Grower13]

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[grass hopper]

Hey duck, I don't love or dislike Hillary. Should she win, I think it would be like Bill running the country all over again. He would play a major role in her running the country. Even the republicans say he did an exceptional job as president.. If he can keep it in his pants, i think they could be great. Just thoughts..

 

[WeedHopper]

Trump will be our next President. Not sure who he will pick for VP. That is my prediction. Course i am high,,,so Sponge Bob might be our next President, ,,if so i hope he picks Stewie for VP.

 

[Locked]

Hamster. Tell me what you most distrust about Hillary? Ben Gaza, Emails? Monica?

I don't care about Benghazi or her emails. Those are just GOP witch hunts trying to dirty her up before the Election.
A brief list of some stuff.

She flip flops constantly. She was for a single payer health care system for a long time. Then she gets contributions from the health care industry and Big Pharma and suddenly she is against single payer. Then she sees how popular it is and flip flops back after saying it would never happen.
She was pro gun ownership back in 08 when she ran against Obama, now she is a Staunch supporter of strict gun control because Bernie Sanders is pro 2nd Ammendment and she thinks that will help her.
She was for the TPP and the Keystone pipeline until she flip flopped against them when the polling told her to.
Back when Bernie was marching with MLK for Civil Rights she was campaigning for Goldwater a Segregationist.
When Bill Clinton was caught up in his infidelity scandals she actively and viscously attacked the Women who came forward. Trying to sully their reputation.
She was supportive of NAFTA.
She and Bill Clinton both pushed through unfair Justice Reform that targeted Minority groups and even referred to minority children as being Super Predators.
She, as Secretary of State, sold Fracking all over the globe. Some Environmentalist.
She is a liar. She lied about the Irish peace process, her vote in favor of the Iraq war, her reason for illegally using a personal email server, that her family was dead broke when they left the White House, about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia.
She accepted millions of Dollars from foreign governments. While serving as Secretary of State, The Clinton Foundation accepted boatloads of cash from countries that fund Hamas, harbor terrorists, suppress women, and regularly execute gays and lesbians. Conflict of interest much?
I could go on but that should be sufficient to prove my point.
This is a good article that shows one of her issues with me. http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/

 

[Rosebud]

Wow Hammy, is that all? lol Thank you for your very succinct reply.

Grasshopper, good post up there thank you.

 

[WeedHopper]

Man you guys are getting to deep for me,,,i just wanna make money. I was making money with Bill Clinton, ,,SHE ,,,Hillary,,, is not Bill ,,she is a all out Politician. I need a Business Person/Man,,,that would be DONALD Trumps crooked ***. He is a Billionair for a reason.

 

[Rosebud]

Will he release his tax records? Is he really as rich as he says? Did he ever give money to the vets?? Inquiring minds want to know. I really hope someone stops this national embarrassment. Love ya WH.

I am a child of the sixties, i love Bernie. i just don't know if he could win.

 

[Locked]

Trump has not once given a detailed explanation on anything. He is big on words and phrases but short on detail. Worst of all he is racist, bigoted and misogynistic. He encourages violence at his public speeches. He is a joke. He only is rich because of his daddy's will and the rigged economy that allows the wealthy to make huge profits while paying little to no taxes on it. Millionaires routinely pay less tax then teachers, police fire fighters etc.

 

[Grower13]

What has Bernie done? What qualifies him to be president? what are his big accomplishments?

 

[Locked]

What has Bernie done? What qualifies him to be president? what are his big accomplishments?

Early days

Won a championship on the basketball team at his primary school in Brooklyn.

Was Captain of his cross-country team, winning a lot of races. In fact, he was so successful he was repeatedly talked about in the school’s yearbook the very next year despite having already graduated.

Early activism


Forced the class president at his James Madison High School to raise scholarship money for kids in Korea, after they had been orphaned due to the war there in the 1950’s.

Organized a sit-in against segregation when he was still a student in college. This was the first civil rights sit-in in Chicago history. This led to the University of Chicago investigating the discrimination just a week afterward.

Mayor of Burlington

Defeated the 5-term mayor of Burlington, winning by just ten votes in his bid against Democratic mayor Gorden Paquette. Hey, a win is a win. The odds were stacked against him. (Guma, The People’s Republic, pg. 42.)

He won re-election three times, defeating Democratic and Republican contenders.

Caused voter turnout to double during his tenure.

Burlington became the first city in the country to fund community-trust housing under Sanders’ leadership.

He not only balanced the city budget, but undertook ambitious downtown revitalization projects. He even helped bring in a minor-league baseball team to the town, the Vermont Reds.

He sued the town’s local cable franchise and won reduced rates for customers.

Kept a developer from turning important waterfront property into condominiums, hotels, and offices to be used only by the wealthy and affluent. Instead, it was made into housing, parks, and public space. Even today, the area still has many parks and miles of public beach and bike baths, including a science center.

Provided new firms with seed funding, and helped businesses create trade associations. He funded training programs to give women access to nontraditional jobs and even gave special attention to women wanting to become entrepreneurs.

Voted as one of America’s best mayors by U.S. News & World Report in 1987.

Teaching days

Taught political science at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government and Hamilton College.

U.S. House of Representatives

His 1990 victory was described by The Washington Post as being the “First Socialist Elected” to the United States House of Representatives in more than 40 years.

Served in the House from 1991 until the time he became a Senator in 2007. Over a span of 16 years, he continuously won re-election by large margins, with the only exception being 1994.

In his very first year in the House, he co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He led this group for its first eight years. Its primary devotion is to advance liberal causes and is currently the largest organization within the Democratic congressional caucus.

He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.

Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.

He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.

Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.

He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”

He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.

Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.

Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.

Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.

U.S. Senate

Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaigns in Vermont’s history.

Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.

Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.

Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.

Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.

Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.

Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.

Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.

Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.

Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.

Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.

Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.

Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.

But, most of all, what Bernie has done is inspire Americans. That’s what he’s doing in this election. His list of accomplishments doesn’t include all the times he’s stood on the Senate floor giving a passionate speech on why the “big banks need to be broken up.” No, you can’t quite quantify things like that.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/0...ernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/

 

[Locked]

For me it comes down to him fighting for the Middle Class and Working Poor for Decades.
The fact that he recognizes that climate change is real and the biggest risk to our planet.
The fact that he is pro renewable green energy.
Pro Union.
Pro Living Wage.
Pro Single Payer Healthcare.
Pro Equal Rights for all people.
Pro removing MJ from the Scheduled list.
Pro Women's Rights.
The list goes on and on.

 

[Grower13]

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his money is on Hillary......... not good for Bernie.

 

[Kraven]

Word, I feel the Bern!

 

[burnin1]

 

[WeedHopper]

:rofl:
Morning ,,,see we can talk Politics, ,,and nobodies mad,,or fighting. I aint thats for sure. Im Not gonna get mad at my friends over any of these asshats thats running for President . Who ever wins,,i hope they help small business owners. Yehaaaaaaaaa