Cloning

[New2theGame]

I have been reading up and I cannot seem to find a straight answer on my question. I am not supposed to take clones from a plant in flowering, and I won't know the sex of the plant until flower period? Should I take a few from each plant before I flip them and toss the males when they show? What is a good method? Thanks.

 

[Locked]

I hve taken clones from plants in flower many times....they usually take longer to throw roots and go through a butt ugly phase but it's not a big deal. Plants will usually show preflowers once they are sexually mature.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

Most people get preflowers while their plants are still in veg, so they know the sex. You could do like you mentioned--label everything and take cuts of everything and toss the males if you would like.

However, like hamster mentioned, you can take clones in flowering. They are harder to clone, take longer to root, and can have some strange growth if too late into flowering, but there is nothing at all wrong with taking clones from a flowering plant. It is best to try and do it in the first 2-3 weeks of 12/12.

 

[MARY-JANE]

You can take clones from a flowering plant. When I'm not sure when growing from seed, I wait it tell my plant is about a foot tall and place it in my flowering box and give it a couple of weeks for sex to show. When it shows and it is a female I take clones and go from their. I hope this helps in answering your ? and Happy growing!

 

[New2theGame]

at what week do plants show pre flowers typically?

 

[New2theGame]

my concern is that doing a scrog in a 3x3 tent with limited vertical space, im going to have to flip them to 12/12 soon. maybe before they are sexually mature. then im going to have a hell of a time. maybe ill just wait on clones for the scrog.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

I think it is a mistake to try and do a scrog using unsexed plants from seed. I think that waiting on clones is a far better idea.

Look into lst.

 

[New2theGame]

I think it is a mistake to try and do a scrog using unsexed plants from seed. I think that waiting on clones is a far better idea.

Look into lst.

i was thinking about that while cutting the grass earlier. how silly of me it would be to weave unsexed plants together lol. lst from what i see is basically training a plant to grow sideways? basically the same thing as a scrog grow just without the screen?

 

[ShOrTbUs]

if your anything like i was my first grow, your overly worried about sexing,cloning, and when to start flowering. you'll find soon enough that u have pleny of time to decide. if you want to force flower, which is flipping to 12/12 before they're sexually mature, then go for it. i've heard it does cause some stress, and can possibly cause or contribute to a plant herming. but i have yet to see that happen. if you do wait for sexual maturity, dont stress if you can't tell between male and female preflowers. there are plenty of people on here with the magic eye for those things. when you flip to 12/12 don't stress about finding the males and chopping them down ASAP. believe me, when u finally encounter a male YOU WILL KNOW IT. you will have plenty of time to cut him down, and dispose of him before he becomes a problem.

believe me dude growing from seeds and waiting till their sexually mature is booorrrinnngg lol. first couple weeks your super excited to check out all the new growth and all that. my plants took 7 longgg weeks to become sexually mature. after week 3 i was only going in the room to change the res and check ph. flowering is the fun part. thats when u get all excited about growing again.

 

[New2theGame]

if your anything like i was my first grow, your overly worried about sexing,cloning, and when to start flowering. you'll find soon enough that u have pleny of time to decide. if you want to force flower, which is flipping to 12/12 before they're sexually mature, then go for it. i've heard it does cause some stress, and can possibly cause or contribute to a plant herming. but i have yet to see that happen. if you do wait for sexual maturity, dont stress if you can't tell between male and female preflowers. there are plenty of people on here with the magic eye for those things. when you flip to 12/12 don't stress about finding the males and chopping them down ASAP. believe me, when u finally encounter a male YOU WILL KNOW IT. you will have plenty of time to cut him down, and dispose of him before he becomes a problem.

believe me dude growing from seeds and waiting till their sexually mature is booorrrinnngg lol. first couple weeks your super excited to check out all the new growth and all that. my plants took 7 longgg weeks to become sexually mature. after week 3 i was only going in the room to change the res and check ph. flowering is the fun part. thats when u get all excited about growing again.

thanks dude this is just what i wanted to hear <3

 

[Dan K. Liberty]

I will throw something in on this . . . I think that it's possible that plants are more inclined to show preflowers in veg . . . not only based on strain and sexual maturity (hitting the "teenage stage") . . . but also on the uninterrupted progression of nodes on the main stem.

I say this because I've noticed that, with any given strain, individual phenos seem inclined to show preflowers at the same location . . . typically, it's between nodes 6 and 8 on the main stem. Strains that are sativa-side heavy seem the most likely to hold out.

When I would top plants at the end of 3 weeks veg (when they had 4-6 main stem nodes), these were more stubborn and would often fail to show preflowers until after they were flipped. When I waited until the end of week 4-5 (when robust plants had 6-8 main stem nodes) . . . even though the leaves were still showing opposite phyllotaxy, identifiable preflowers would usually develop there.

So I just quit topping them so early. I let em grow out the main stem until they give it up, then cut clones & fim, final transplant, veg 2 more weeks to let em recover, then flip. If they're gonna get too tall for your space at that point, you can always top off a few nodes rather than just the growing tip. As stated, taking clones after 1-2 weeks of 12/12 is another option - preflowers are likely to develop 3-4 nodes up the branches.

I've also noticed what I think is a correlation between the earlier development of preflowers and the earliest bud maturation . . . the ones that show strong preflowers first are usually the ones that finish first. I use this trait to ID the plants - the first girl to show becomes #1, and so on . . .

I dunno . . . could be a bunch of fertilizer . . . I wonder if anyone else has noticed anything along these lines ??

jm2c :48:

 

[ShOrTbUs]

thanks dude this is just what i wanted to hear <3

haha, u should of seen me when i lost my power for 3 days 5-6 weeks into flowering. i bet i aged like 10 years in 3 days

 

[ShOrTbUs]

I will throw something in on this . . . I think that it's possible that plants are more inclined to show preflowers in veg . . . not only based on strain and sexual maturity (hitting the "teenage stage") . . . but also on the uninterrupted progression of nodes on the main stem.

I say this because I've noticed that, with any given strain, individual phenos seem inclined to show preflowers at the same location . . . typically, it's between nodes 6 and 8 on the main stem. Strains that are sativa-side heavy seem the most likely to hold out.

When I would top plants at the end of 3 weeks veg (when they had 4-6 main stem nodes), these were more stubborn and would often fail to show preflowers until after they were flipped. When I waited until the end of week 4-5 (when robust plants had 6-8 main stem nodes) . . . even though the leaves were still showing opposite phyllotaxy, identifiable preflowers would usually develop there.

So I just quit topping them so early. I let em grow out the main stem until they give it up, then cut clones & fim, final transplant, veg 2 more weeks to let em recover, then flip. If they're gonna get too tall for your space at that point, you can always top off a few nodes rather than just the growing tip. As stated, taking clones after 1-2 weeks of 12/12 is another option - preflowers are likely to develop 3-4 nodes up the branches.

I've also noticed what I think is a correlation between the earlier development of preflowers and the earliest bud maturation . . . the ones that show strong preflowers first are usually the ones that finish first. I use this trait to ID the plants - the first girl to show becomes #1, and so on . . .

I dunno . . . could be a bunch of fertilizer . . . I wonder if anyone else has noticed anything along these lines ??

jm2c :48:

i hardly have enough experience yet. although i did top 2 of my 4 plants 2 weeks earlier the the other 2, because they were getting taller, faster. the 2 that got topped later, showed me sex first.