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[HemperFi]

I don't really want to mix them, Rosy, I'm just saying it can be done without detriment to the plants. It's the "Chem nutes kill microbes," that I have an argument with -- they are basically identical to organic nutes. I figure if the plant can't tell the difference than neither can the microbes. I will continue to put microbes in the FFoF soil and use chemical nutrients. I believe that microbial action is just as important when using Chem nutes as it is using organics. JMO

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

You believe this statement to be incorrect then? "Chemical fertilizers will not improve the structure of the soil. In fact, because they are composed of high concentrations of mineral salts, they are capable of killing off many of the soil organisms that are responsible for decomposition, and soil formation. If only chemicals are added, the soil gradually loses its organic matter and microbiotic activity."

 

[Rosebud]

To me it is like the difference between eating an orange and popping ascorbic acid for vit c. Yes, the body gets vit c from both things, but the orange has...you know the drill, fiber, bioflavanoids, etc. blah blah blah. but true.

And I think that what them hemp goddess wrote is true.

Don't make me get out my master gardener stuff, to site references please.

 

[HemperFi]

Okay, Chem nutes wi9ll not improve the "structure" of soil -- I believe that, and the formation of soil either -- FoxFarm did that for me. As far as organisms responsible for decomposition -- that's also true -- that's why you add microbes -- which, by the way, are not working in the soil decomposing things -- they work with the roots to help absorb nutrients. We are talking about a lot of different things here. My contention is that adding microbes even when using chem nutes is a good idea and beneficial to the plant.

 

[HemperFi]

I should say, -- they are not JUST working in the soil decomposing things, but also with the roots helping to absorb nutes -- either chem or organic nutes.

 

[hero4u2b]

I have to put in my 2 cents. I am not taking sides but I have read several articals in high times and some of the other bud **** mags that organic growing. using organic soils ect and if someone adds chem nutes that indeed prohibits the micro life in the soil to do what it is supposed to. The articals even go on to say that in tap water where the city adds choraime a mixture of chlorine and amonia that alone will kill micro life and one should either use treated water or add one of the water cleaners for aquariums. if growing in a medium such as peat mixs ( pro mix ) are supposed to be fine. These articals are supposadly written by old pros who have been growing out in cali for years. We have several organic growers here I dont know why they arent chimming in. Just my 2 cents. Hero

 

[GROBOT]

I got noting right now but some soaking seeds, but you know you are welcome Hamster. Have you grown the cheese?

just thought I'd read through your stuff, I soaked some beans for practise, even took a picture for practise, I'm kinda confused on a couple stuff, I got OMG'ed for buying seeds on craigslist, thought I'd come hide over here, I payed 50 bucks for 50 seeds. I know these arenot MJ seeds but I don't want to screw this up, so the practise.

 

[Lemon Jack]

You paId fifty bucks for that omg those are just regular beans a variety though maybe 13 bean soup. Ill sell you a couple more bags for 25 lol.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

just thought I'd read through your stuff, I soaked some beans for practise, even took a picture for practise, I'm kinda confused on a couple stuff, I got OMG'ed for buying seeds on craigslist, thought I'd come hide over here, I payed 50 bucks for 50 seeds. I know these arenot MJ seeds but I don't want to screw this up, so the practise.

LOL--you cannot hide from The Hemp Goddess. When I OMG'd I thought that you bought marijuana seeds. What you have there are just beans--like Lemon said, maybe from a bag of 13 bean soup (I hope that you were kidding when you said you paid $50 for 50 of these). Growing beans and growing marijuana is nothing alike--this really isn't going to help you learn to grow marijuana.

 

[powerplanter]

You can make a great soup from them though. Stay positive man.

 

[Grower13]

When I OMG'd I thought that you bought marijuana seeds.

I think he did...... I think he is practicing with these other seeds....... but I think he said he paid $50.00 for 50 mj seeds.:hubba:

"I bought some seeds off craightslist, they said it was the dank,wasn't sure of the strain."

Hey grobot cover those beans and put them in the dark

 

[powerplanter]

I really need to know if those are what you bought for 50.00 bucks...because I got the lights that will do those beans wonders. :evil:

 

[GROBOT]

I really need to know if those are what you bought for 50.00 bucks...because I got the lights that will do those beans wonders. :evil:

Those are practise, I got some weed with the 50 seeds too. were on this guys cheese thread, I gotta go hit the pipe, gotta focus.

 

[GROBOT]

I think he did...... I think he is practicing with these other seeds....... but I think he said he paid $50.00 for 50 mj seeds.:hubba:

"I bought some seeds off craightslist, they said it was the dank,wasn't sure of the strain."

Hey grobot cover those beans and put them in the dark

thanks grower, I will, GROBOT and the BEANSTALK, I could write a new one about MJ. who will be the wicked giant?, snuck a toke of my moms stash, no wonder about her, she's got the dank.

 

[GROBOT]

You paId fifty bucks for that omg those are just regular beans a variety though maybe 13 bean soup. Ill sell you a couple more bags for 25 lol.

dude, can you read!! please go back a post or to, I'm not stupid.

 

[GROBOT]

LOL--you cannot hide from The Hemp Goddess. When I OMG'd I thought that you bought marijuana seeds. What you have there are just beans--like Lemon said, maybe from a bag of 13 bean soup (I hope that you were kidding when you said you paid $50 for 50 of these). Growing beans and growing marijuana is nothing alike--this really isn't going to help you learn to grow marijuana.

This is all a big mistake, I"m start over tommorow!!

 

[GROBOT]

sorry hemperfi cheese, I didnt mean to muddy your thread.

 

[7greeneyes]

HIJACKED!!! :rofl:

 

[Grower13]

If you grow bean stalks that take you where there's some serious dank bring back some clones.

But seriously....... your mom has the dank?
:48:

 

[HemperFi]

Hate to jack my thread back, BUT, lol, perhaps they are magic beans?

No one can convince me that because I am using GH 3 part nutes there is no microbial action taking place in my soil. I believe that if used properly designer nutes such as these can and will work just as well with microbes in soil. Microbes are everywhere, and they are easy to kill -- simple detergent kills them by the millions, but there are billions of them everywhere, and to kill them in soil you would have to sterilize the soil. Over nuting would also do them some damage -- turn them into ferts. Adding microbes to soil, either organic or chemical, can only do good things -- Old-school Hippies growing organic up in the hills of N. Cali are growing organic because of phylosophical reasons and because chemical nutes will polute water ways if used wide scale. God bless every one of them. They are NOT using organics because chem nutes kill microbes. They are smart enough to realize the futility of killing microbes. Microbes aren't dainty little creatures that just spring up here and there -- there is a thick layer of microbes on everything you look at -- There are microbes living happily in my soil, and I use chem nutes.

Peace