A.k.a. Greenybeanymeany Grow #2

[Dr. Green Fang]

I was wondering who Sara was. I figured it out fairly quickly when I got my confirmation email lmao. Oh well, too late now.

And lol, I was looking at their 300w reflector one, if my memory serves me right, hampsterlewis said he used the bigger brother to that. It was a bit cheaper and I thought it would be beneficial to have a switch that changes the lights from veg spectrum to bloom. But I took the time to read coverage, and it said 2.5x2.5 during veg, which would be good, and then I think 2x1.5 in flower, and I just didn't think it would be in my favor to go that route, and after some google time everything pointed to the mars II to be the better option because it penetrates the canopy better. Plus an extra 100w for maybe 40 bucks.

Yeah, oh well. Now you know Sara! haha Sometimes, there's others that do the orders, but I think Sara is the best to work with.

Hamster has the 300w I think, it's longer than it is wide.. that one. It has a switch yes, but honestly.. full spectrum (both switches on) is best even for veg, according to PJ. I think you can flip to veg only and save a dollar or two, but miss out on having a full spectrum. Also, the reflector series isn't as good as the one I linked (again according to PJ..but I really believe him). Also, the diodes are 5w on the one I linked, and 3w on the older reflector series. Right now, I believe HL has upgraded his light.. but I'm not entirely sure on that.

and after some google time everything pointed to the mars II to be the better option because it penetrates the canopy better.

Good man!! Research, research, research and when you're done .. cross reference everything! You'll find the truths and tid bits of info and knowledge along the way you need, and discard the rest. Don't believe everything you read, but when you start cross referencing things.. checking sources, and ideas / thoughts start to sync (like pointing to the Mars II) then you've got your self on track and armed with the most powerful weapon in the world; "Knowledge"

Haha I know, its getting exciting. At this point I don't even care if this plant turns out to be a male, because I can just start fresh with some good seeds from a seed bank. Hard to find seeds with what I smoke anyways. The seed I have planted was the only seed I've found since the good stuff finally came rolling through my town after Colorado legalized.. Used to be nothing but 25 an eighth for nasty brick that I wouldn't feed to my dog, that's why I originally grew the first round.

Well, now let's touch on that bit. Seeds found in bag weed, is generally going to have a great chance to herm on you (Hermaphrodite...as in it will pollinate and seed itself). You definitely want good genetics!!! I can not stress this enough! You can grow a total s.h.i.t. show, and still have a decent product as long as your strain genetics were solid...but you can not say the opposite for bad genetics. You could grow bad genetics in the best possible scenario and environment and it will still end up a poor end product. Trust me on this one (hah ) I'll help you find a strain or at least tell you if I'd suggest something or not... you can even put up a poll vote and have other MPers chime in. But I do have some great recommendations of solid things, for sure. :aok:

Also, $25 an 1/8 for brick.. *sigh* the memories! hahahahahah :rofl:

Awesome! Sounds like a plan. Its pretty exciting for me in all angles, I mean, I'm slowly but SURELY stepping up my game, with excellent help from you. I'm really anxious for everything to get here and ditch the CFLs.

I imagine from your side this would be a blast, looking at my old journal, where I was when you came in, and to where this is heading because of your help.

I'm so glad I came back here instead of any of the other growing forums online.

There's a lot of crap forums, and this sure is not one of them. With that said, I just saw things and found a moment to kinda throw my wing out and let you glide under it for a bit if you wanted. Glad to have kept you safe and guided through here. Let's keep this up! Yes, this is super fun for me! I had a forum member do this for me a bit back, and it was a blast...now I get to pay it forward.

 

[schoolboy420]

Yeah, oh well. Now you know Sara! haha Sometimes, there's others that do the orders, but I think Sara is the best to work with.

Hamster has the 300w I think, it's longer than it is wide.. that one. It has a switch yes, but honestly.. full spectrum (both switches on) is best even for veg, according to PJ. I think you can flip to veg only and save a dollar or two, but miss out on having a full spectrum. Also, the reflector series isn't as good as the one I linked (again according to PJ..but I really believe him). Also, the diodes are 5w on the one I linked, and 3w on the older reflector series. Right now, I believe HL has upgraded his light.. but I'm not entirely sure on that.



Good man!! Research, research, research and when you're done .. cross reference everything! You'll find the truths and tid bits of info and knowledge along the way you need, and discard the rest. Don't believe everything you read, but when you start cross referencing things.. checking sources, and ideas / thoughts start to sync (like pointing to the Mars II) then you've got your self on track and armed with the most powerful weapon in the world; "Knowledge"

Good thing I got lucky on getting her then lol.

I believe his was the step up from the 300, maybe 600.

Who's PJ? I'm sure I should know this.

I noticed that on the diode watts and learned quickly the importance of their watts. I had a lot of led research time in the past 7 hrs. [emoji4]

Well, now let's touch on that bit. Seeds found in bag weed, is generally going to have a great chance to herm on you (Hermaphrodite...as in it will pollinate and seed itself). You definitely want good genetics!!! I can not stress this enough! You can grow a total s.h.i.t. show, and still have a decent product as long as your strain genetics were solid...but you can not say the opposite for bad genetics. You could grow bad genetics in the best possible scenario and environment and it will still end up a poor end product. Trust me on this one (hah ) I'll help you find a strain or at least tell you if I'd suggest something or not... you can even put up a poll vote and have other MPers chime in. But I do have some great recommendations of solid things, for sure. :aok:

Also, $25 an 1/8 for brick.. *sigh* the memories! hahahahahah :rofl:

Oh yeah. I know all about it. I've been wanting to do some ordering. I wish I had access to clones like some of these lucky people on here.

I managed to get lucky... To an extent.. Lmao.. On the last grow with bagseed. Didn't Hermie and took a hellacious beating with serious neglect from seed, and still got a few buds off it.

I have a few strains I've been wanting to give a shot.

I've always wanted to smoke Hawaiian snow ever since reading about it. I should probably look into some grow experiences.

But hell anything with good genetics is fine with me.

And I am so glad those days are gone here. Even in the midst of the good stuff being around and at about am average of 40-45 for 3.5-4g, there's a douche I know trying to sell the nasty crap for 15 a g. LOL.

There's a lot of crap forums, and this sure is not one of them. With that said, I just saw things and found a moment to kinda throw my wing out and let you glide under it for a bit if you wanted. Glad to have kept you safe and guided through here. Let's keep this up! Yes, this is super fun for me! I had a forum member do this for me a bit back, and it was a blast...now I get to pay it forward.

I know MP doesn't fall into the crap category. There's a lot of great people on here.


And I can't wait until I get to do the same!

 

[schoolboy420]

Tent should be here tomorrow. I haven't gotten an email yet about the LED yet

 

[zem]

yeah your list almost complete, add to it one oscillating fan, and you might want to get a dehumidifier for later stages of flowering, i find it necessary to prevent bud mold, especially when buds are huge, in my case, i lose most of my harvest every time if my dehumidifier wasn't there

 

[schoolboy420]

yeah your list almost complete, add to it one oscillating fan, and you might want to get a dehumidifier for later stages of flowering, i find it necessary to prevent bud mold, especially when buds are huge, in my case, i lose most of my harvest every time if my dehumidifier wasn't there

Awesome. Thanks for letting me know. I'll add that to my list. I already have an oscillating fan though, it just won't fit in the current box lol

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I use multiple clip fans to create a "vortex effect" instead of the space it requires to take up for an OSC fan. I used an OSC fan my first 3 grows, at that ***** was SO getting in the way!!! I love it, now my fans do not make me sacrifice space!

As for the dehumidifier... that's only a need in the south in my opinion. Never used one, hit over 80% RH many times. Will never experience mold though It's just not in it for that to happen with my climate. I believe you'd be fine as well.

Also, PJammers is the resident LED guru master!

 

[schoolboy420]

I use multiple clip fans to create a "vortex effect" instead of the space it requires to take up for an OSC fan. I used an OSC fan my first 3 grows, at that ***** was SO getting in the way!!! I love it, now my fans do not make me sacrifice space!

As for the dehumidifier... that's only a need in the south in my opinion. Never used one, hit over 80% RH many times. Will never experience mold though It's just not in it for that to happen with my climate. I believe you'd be fine as well.

Also, PJammers is the resident LED guru master!

I guess when it comes time for that I can just monitor the humidity and make sure it stays at a safe level.

And I have a clip fan inside my box at the moment, I just removed the clip and let it lean up against the door. And I have a little six inch fan rigged for exhaust. Temps still stay around 90 in there though.



BTW, I decided I am going to save myself some cash and build my own dwc set up. It seems like it would be more fun anyways. I'll probably still use buckets though. But I'll be borrowing ideas from your diy

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I guess when it comes time for that I can just monitor the humidity and make sure it stays at a safe level.

And I have a clip fan inside my box at the moment, I just removed the clip and let it lean up against the door. And I have a little six inch fan rigged for exhaust. Temps still stay around 90 in there though.



BTW, I decided I am going to save myself some cash and build my own dwc set up. It seems like it would be more fun anyways. I'll probably still use buckets though. But I'll be borrowing ideas from your diy

Excellent. Always monitor your levels!!!

Yeah, that box and vent setup is just beggin to be hot!! hahahaha (No offense) I should get you links to a 4" inline fan, and carbon filter...so you can have that all planned out. These are mostly required during FLOWERING so you'll have a bit of time, BUT... it really helps with temps and stuff

Cool, building your own is fun and an easy way to shave some $$ off the end cost of your operation. Any thoughts you need sorted out along the way, ask ask ask!!! :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

Always! I've been forced to keep the door slightly cracked for better airflow. Or it would be at 100-110 in there. So I am losing lumens. But there doesn't appear to be any stretching so it is fine for now. The tracking date on the tent shifted to Saturday. Oh well, Monday will be my day off anyways... Even though I'll have it assembled before then. I'm too anxious on the light.

And yes, do that if you would lol.

 

[schoolboy420]

Speaking of monitoring levels, I checked my ppm of my runoff and pH before and after to get...

PH level- 6.34
Ppm(only did run off) 387(high I know)

 

[schoolboy420]

I have pH up and pH down on the way. It will be here sunday

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

So I am losing lumens.

You're losing reflective lumens and only a little bit. You're alright. Honestly, and this may sound mean depending on how you read it...but I think you'd agree; This plant is a test plant for you. Even though you've attempted this a few times, and consider this your best attempt (WHICH IT IS) this is still just a test plant. Once you start getting your conditions and environment on track, THEN you're actually in it! Great testings so far though! You've learned a lot with this thread :aok:

Yeah, get your tent going IMMEDIATELY! Set up your "ghetto" ventilation till you have the money to buy it proper... possibly next week? Let's see, you've officially purchased what? Tent and Light? You need vent fan / carb filter ... let's see here....

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Speaking of monitoring levels, I checked my ppm of my runoff and pH before and after to get...

PH level- 6.34
Ppm(only did run off) 387(high I know)

Nope! That's not high at all. If your PPM going in was 340.. then you only have about 47 parts of nutes in there....very very low even. BUT.. we don't know what "makes up" that 340 PPM. Could be calcium.. could be cyanide LOL. Either way, your ppm's are fine. Next up will be raising them to around 500-550 on your next (?) feeding. Your PH is great for soil (I think).. Good on ya!

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I have pH up and pH down on the way. It will be here sunday

Excellent!!! This is especially needed in hydro methods :aok: Working with up and down takes some experience, that's for sure! First thing you'll do is go WAY too high then WAY too low lol!! It's painful. buuuut it gets much better after the first few times doing it. Remember that PH UP requires more of the fluid to get the number up, while PH DOWN is the opposite, and will take less of the adjustment fluid to get the PH to swing down.

 

[schoolboy420]

You're losing reflective lumens and only a little bit. You're alright. Honestly, and this may sound mean depending on how you read it...but I think you'd agree; This plant is a test plant for you. Even though you've attempted this a few times, and consider this your best attempt (WHICH IT IS) this is still just a test plant. Once you start getting your conditions and environment on track, THEN you're actually in it! Great testings so far though! You've learned a lot with this thread :aok:

Yeah, get your tent going IMMEDIATELY! Set up your "ghetto" ventilation till you have the money to buy it proper... possibly next week? Let's see, you've officially purchased what? Tent and Light? You need vent fan / carb filter ... let's see here....

No offense taken. Which you don't have to worry about me taking things wrong. Anything you say, even if it is brutally harsh, I won't take offense to. I can tell you're in my corner and that you mean well [emoji4]

You'd be correct, I do agree. Test run/ learning experience.

And its definitely a ghetto ventilation lmao. If you only knew... And now you will lol. There's about a 4" hole in the back, a few inches up from the light bulbs, and I have the back of the fan up against it, on the outside to suck the heat outwards. And the most ghetto part about it, is the same main ghetto ingredient that holds it in place... Duct tape! It somewhat works. And better than how I had it before lol. I'd care if it was a permanent spot.

I just realized you were talking about for the tent, but oh well its already typed up and I don't want to erase it.

And yep vent fan and carbon filter needed.

I'll figure out a way to use the intending vent holes for the time being, and without destroying anything to do so.. Or using duct tape lmao.

As far as venting goes.. I know I need the fans and carbon filters,am I going to need ducting? I feel like that's an obvious yes, so with me answering my own question, is there anything in particular I should go for, or does the kind you'd use for a dryer vent work the same? Whether metal or aluminum. Or would one be better or easier than the other?

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I use the shiny dryer stuff... getting you together a list right now :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

Nope! That's not high at all. If your PPM going in was 340.. then you only have about 47 parts of nutes in there....very very low even. BUT.. we don't know what "makes up" that 340 PPM. Could be calcium.. could be cyanide LOL. Either way, your ppm's are fine. Next up will be raising them to around 500-550 on your next (?) feeding. Your PH is great for soil (I think).. Good on ya!

Good! Lol, its probably cyanide though, I thought that's what you were supposed to water with. Hahah

Yep I'm in a good range on pH, surprisingly. I figured I'd be a bit high or low.

 

[schoolboy420]

Excellent!!! This is especially needed in hydro methods :aok: Working with up and down takes some experience, that's for sure! First thing you'll do is go WAY too high then WAY too low lol!! It's painful. buuuut it gets much better after the first few times doing it. Remember that PH UP requires more of the fluid to get the number up, while PH DOWN is the opposite, and will take less of the adjustment fluid to get the PH to swing down.

Alright I'll keep that in mind. When it comes to adjusting I'll probably do drops at a time until I get more is a feel for it all. I can imagine the frustration doing that LOL. It just seems like it would be a pain

 

[schoolboy420]

I use the shiny dryer stuff... getting you together a list right now :aok:

That's what I figured. Stuffs pretty cheap too, I can't complain about that

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Hurricane Fan 171 CFM Inline Fan, 4-Inch - [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Hurricane-Fans-171-Inline-4-Inch/dp/B007ZU6ZT8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1428663545&sr=8-9&keywords=4in+inline+fan[/ame]

4" Carbon Air Filter (I found a cheap one, but the one I use is about $40 more than this one..I can't speak for this one, but I know you like cheap) - [ame]http://www.amazon.com/LEDwholesalers-Hydroponic-Scrubber-Control-GYO2305/dp/B005HT0GZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428663628&sr=8-1&keywords=4in+Carbon+Filter[/ame]

If you were curious, this is the one I use: Phat Filter 12 inchx4 inch, 200 CFM - [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Phat-Filter-inchx4-inch-200/dp/B00598H6XM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428664071&sr=8-1&keywords=Phat+Filter+4%22[/ame]

Here's the ducting - [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Dundas-Jafine-BTD48TC-ProFlex-Transition/dp/B0015UGPWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428664296&sr=8-1&keywords=4%22+dryer+duct[/ame]

^^ Now that's only 8 feet of it, but should be more than fine for what you need.

So, Fan + Carb Filter + Ducting is the last of your major purchases.

Last on the list would be nutes, and DIY res etc etc. :aok: