A.k.a. Greenybeanymeany Grow #2

[schoolboy420]

Niiice, thanks. Cheap to me is always good.. Unless its useless and a waste lol. The risk I take will depend on my cash level at purchase time. I'll keep my eyes on the one that obviously works.

 

[schoolboy420]

And I do need to buy nutes. All I have at the moment is Grow Big from fox farms, I'm still unsure on if I really need both tigerbloom and bigbloom(I think that's what the other ones called.. Seems right lol)

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I can look into it a bit for you, but I'm a total noob when it comes to Fox Farms. I'm sure I can figure it out easy enough though :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

I tried googling that and I got mixed answers. So I wasn't really sure about any of it lol. I intended to ask other MP'ers, I've just forgot since then

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Ok, here's a PDF of the schedule.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/soilenglish2015.pdf

First of all.. that's confusing as all hell, even for me! Second of all...they flush 3 times during the process? hahahahaha crazy!! I change my res out once, at 4 weeks in to flowering.

Seems your 3 main things are: Big Bloom, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom. Big Bloom must be your grow? I'm so confused. Screw Fox Farms!!! lol no offense

 

[schoolboy420]

Ok, here's a PDF of the schedule.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/soilenglish2015.pdf

First of all.. that's confusing as all hell, even for me! Second of all...they flush 3 times during the process? hahahahaha crazy!! I change my res out once, at 4 weeks in to flowering.

Seems your 3 main things are: Big Bloom, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom. Big Bloom must be your grow? I'm so confused. Screw Fox Farms!!! lol no offense

Lol I know. It is a bit confusing. What line do you stick with?

What I have now is their Ocean forest soil, and grow big. I assumed by the word bloom on both that they were for flowering, but I believe big bloom is for both and tiger is just for flowering. And I believe big bloom is used in unison with both, that's why I am confused about if its truly needed or if its just basically something they trick you into thinking you need. I'm not sure. I'll research more into it.

I've only fed once with grow big and did 1/8th strength of what it recommended and ended up with nute burn. So I am waiting until I see deficiency symptoms before adding. I just finally got done dealing with nute burn and I'd like to avoid that problem again.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

What line do you stick with?

I use Advanced Nutrients - Jungle Juice. It's a 3 part system, Micro / Grow / Bloom, and is simple to figure out. It's basically General Hydroponics 3 part Flora series, but cheaper (and better IMO ... hah - that'll ruffle some feathers)

I have various additives as well, but we'll keep you very minimal to start!

I assumed by the word bloom on both that they were for flowering, but I believe big bloom is for both and tiger is just for flowering

Yeah, after reading it, that's exactly what I had assumed :aok: I think their "Big Bloom" is what's known as the "Micro" nute. I like when it's easy, just tell me. "Micro / Grow / Bloom" ... many companies do that, just stick to it. Sure, call it whatever funky name you want, just clearly let me know what the hell is going on! (hhahaha, ramble; Over)

I've only fed once with grow big and did 1/8th strength of what it recommended and ended up with nute burn. So I am waiting until I see deficiency symptoms before adding. I just finally got done dealing with nute burn and I'd like to avoid that problem again.

Yeah, I don't even know if that's the right thing to add... man, I wish I knew that nute line better

On that thought, you can pretty much change nute brands at ANY point that you want, as long as you're not mixing different brand (MACRO) nutes. "Macro" nutes, are the core system required for plants. Some companies make it a "2 part" system, while many others make it a "3 part" system. I prefer the 3 part systems, for various reasons.

With that said, if you wanted to change to another nute line at some time, I'll recomend a few brands (that I'm familiar with) and go from there. I'm familiar with about 5 lines :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

I use Advanced Nutrients - Jungle Juice. It's a 3 part system, Micro / Grow / Bloom, and is simple to figure out. It's basically General Hydroponics 3 part Flora series, but cheaper (and better IMO ... hah - that'll ruffle some feathers)

I have various additives as well, but we'll keep you very minimal to start!



Yeah, after reading it, that's exactly what I had assumed :aok: I think their "Big Bloom" is what's known as the "Micro" nute. I like when it's easy, just tell me. "Micro / Grow / Bloom" ... many companies do that, just stick to it. Sure, call it whatever funky name you want, just clearly let me know what the hell is going on! (hhahaha, ramble; Over)



Yeah, I don't even know if that's the right thing to add... man, I wish I knew that nute line better

On that thought, you can pretty much change nute brands at ANY point that you want, as long as you're not mixing different brand (MACRO) nutes. "Macro" nutes, are the core system required for plants. Some companies make it a "2 part" system, while many others make it a "3 part" system. I prefer the 3 part systems, for various reasons.

With that said, if you wanted to change to another nute line at some time, I'll recomend a few brands (that I'm familiar with) and go from there. I'm familiar with about 5 lines :aok:

Lol yeah its a bit frustrating to say the least.

I'll probably stick with fox farms this round. Might as well, I have a damn near full bottle of grow big left anyways.

I may change my mind though. I'll do some searching on everything in a bit.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I have a damn near full bottle of grow big left anyways.

I'll take a picture of my "left over" bottles and my "free samples" I get from the hydro store (hah, just a few bottles). I started using them in my flower beds outside, as I'll never use them on my indoor garden. My point is, you'll see that until you get a nute regime that you're going to stick to, you'll have lots of "left overs"... and, if you go to a hydro store, you can generally get a free sample of almost anything. Usually, it's whatever they have at the time.

With our help, you'll get pointed to a quality nute regimen right off the bat. I think there's a few people that use Fox Farms nutes on this forum. Obviously, it's a soil based nute.. I think it can be used Hydro, but I wouldn't use it.

 

[schoolboy420]

I'll take a picture of my "left over" bottles and my "free samples" I get from the hydro store (hah, just a few bottles). I started using them in my flower beds outside, as I'll never use them on my indoor garden. My point is, you'll see that until you get a nute regime that you're going to stick to, you'll have lots of "left overs"... and, if you go to a hydro store, you can generally get a free sample of almost anything. Usually, it's whatever they have at the time.

With our help, you'll get pointed to a quality nute regimen right off the bat. I think there's a few people that use Fox Farms nutes on this forum. Obviously, it's a soil based nute.. I think it can be used Hydro, but I wouldn't use it.

Yeah, mp is where I originally got turned toward fox farms everything.

And there is a hydro store about 10 miles from me. Ive only been there once and I was paranoid In there, just waiting to be asked what I was growing, or thinking am under cover cop following me lol

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Ive only been there once and I was paranoid In there, just waiting to be asked what I was growing, or thinking am under cover cop following me lol

Funny, I had the same feelings at first. Then I found out the owner of my store owns 6 stores in the 3 states (here and two others) and in one of them, he legally runs a warehouse grow. Huge setup...so he doesn't give a crap what you're growing, as long as you're buying the products from him and not online or elsewhere. As for under cover, do you know how much money and time and wasted energy that would be? Loooooaaaads of people go to the hydro store for horticultural adventures beyond Marijuana. For one simple instance, there's a hydroponic Strawberry operation that's about 30 minutes from me. They supply the local super markets. They are ALWAYS in need of every single supply that YOU need too. hahaha.

Heck, I was in the store one day and a mom brought her son in, as he liked growing some things just out of hobby. He was getting his new PH pen calibrated and was chatting with the owner a bit.

If you go in there and act and look paranoid, then yeah... you look silly and we all know what you're doing. If you go in there like a regular customer, there's no need to ever worry. You never have to discuss what you're doing, and if you want to just say you have an in home herb garden, with Thyme / Basil / Oregano / Rosemary / Lavender ... or even an indoor perpetual veggie garden. A lot of people that live in the city can do this type of thing so they can grow their own veggies and eat their own growings.

There's so many reasons to not be paranoid. With that said, I 110% understand those feelings. :aok:

 

[N.E.wguy]

mines across from a police dept and owner runs grow classes because the cops wanted him to run them for the community

I feel as safe in my hydro shop as my home, bring my kids there to. I know the owner it's always nice to know the owner get u freebies

 

[zem]

I use multiple clip fans to create a "vortex effect" instead of the space it requires to take up for an OSC fan. I used an OSC fan my first 3 grows, at that ***** was SO getting in the way!!! I love it, now my fans do not make me sacrifice space!

As for the dehumidifier... that's only a need in the south in my opinion. Never used one, hit over 80% RH many times. Will never experience mold though It's just not in it for that to happen with my climate. I believe you'd be fine as well.

Also, PJammers is the resident LED guru master!

dude with 80% RH, in late flowering, with dense enough buds, there's no way that buds will not get mold. For smaller nugs, i never got mold ever, but those big bulky tops can never make it through without dehumidifier except when RH is below 35% many strains simply dont bulk up so much, and thats why some people think they dont need a dehumidifier but for other heavy fruiting strains its a must IMO

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

dude with 80% RH, in late flowering, with dense enough buds, there's no way that buds will not get mold

Eek, sorry zem.. I've hit this multiple times, and have yet to experience mold in all of my 2 years. Not much time, but you figure I'd have gotten it.

 

[zem]

Doc I grew many strains that would not mold, come to think of it, it's only my william's wonder that molds regularly, this is a pic of a recent grow, it grows like a single huge bud that keeps growing fatter until harvest and i tried to blown windstorms of oscillating fans and still got mold at 50% RH. the heart of these nugs is just a great home for mold because the air remains stale there so i found no other way but to use a dehumidifier. there were some grows that i knew that i didn't need to turn it on because simply the buds were not that big, i can more or less predict from the size of the bud whether i need to turn it on or not

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[schoolboy420]

Funny, I had the same feelings at first. Then I found out the owner of my store owns 6 stores in the 3 states (here and two others) and in one of them, he legally runs a warehouse grow. Huge setup...so he doesn't give a crap what you're growing, as long as you're buying the products from him and not online or elsewhere. As for under cover, do you know how much money and time and wasted energy that would be? Loooooaaaads of people go to the hydro store for horticultural adventures beyond Marijuana. For one simple instance, there's a hydroponic Strawberry operation that's about 30 minutes from me. They supply the local super markets. They are ALWAYS in need of every single supply that YOU need too. hahaha.

Heck, I was in the store one day and a mom brought her son in, as he liked growing some things just out of hobby. He was getting his new PH pen calibrated and was chatting with the owner a bit.

If you go in there and act and look paranoid, then yeah... you look silly and we all know what you're doing. If you go in there like a regular customer, there's no need to ever worry. You never have to discuss what you're doing, and if you want to just say you have an in home herb garden, with Thyme / Basil / Oregano / Rosemary / Lavender ... or even an indoor perpetual veggie garden. A lot of people that live in the city can do this type of thing so they can grow their own veggies and eat their own growings.

There's so many reasons to not be paranoid. With that said, I 110% understand those feelings. :aok:

Lol it didn't help me any that I was baked when I went in, and I'm always paranoid in public.

I figure I'll drop by there eventually and if they askillsay I'm getting supplies to grow my wife some good tomatoes

 

[schoolboy420]

mines across from a police dept and owner runs grow classes because the cops wanted him to run them for the community

I feel as safe in my hydro shop as my home, bring my kids there to. I know the owner it's always nice to know the owner get u freebies

You are one lucky person. Then lmao

 

[N.E.wguy]

we are all lucky to have the know how to grow and this site to educate people long after we and others are moved on from here. you should put your journal in your sig may help alot of people that will never post here but you have a thread worth sharing, lots of info and smart people in here and now you are one of them

can't wait to follow along glad u are all set up DGF did a great job helping you imo

 

[schoolboy420]

we are all lucky to have the know how to grow and this site to educate people long after we and others are moved on from here. you should put your journal in your sig may help alot of people that will never post here but you have a thread worth sharing, lots of info and smart people in here and now you are one of them

can't wait to follow along glad u are all set up DGF did a great job helping you imo

That is the truth. And I will when I get home and am able to mess with that lol.

But thanks man means a lot. And yes the doc has prescribed a lot of help. That's for sure!

 

[N.E.wguy]

ya well just my opinion, but add the thread to your sig. your join date and thread are useful glman i'll be here
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