THERMAL IMAGE THIS!......pig

[311Grower]

here's the reflector cover I was talking about that reduces heat, it's made by Hydro Innovations and is called the Heat Shield. Unfortunately it's only being manufactured to fit a few different model reflectors but hopefully they'll expand their line of models....

I cant post links yet so just go to youtube and search "heat shield", should be the third video listed...

 

[themadhatter]

as long as they are not on your property they can take pics of it. you can take a pic of anyone or anything as long as it is a public place (the middle of the street outside your home for example)

Don't quote me, but don't they need a warrant to use the camera on your house?

 

[311Grower]

as long as they are not on your property they can take pics of it. you can take a pic of anyone or anything as long as it is a public place (the middle of the street outside your home for example)

You sir, are incorrect... It was a Supreme Court Ruling in 2001 and to be reversed must go back through the Supreme Court and has not... Now, I'm certainly not saying that some corrupt *** cops don't use it and just lie in order to get a search warrant, kind of like how they did on Barry Cooper's Kopbusters in Odessa, TX. They got a search warrant from what the police claim was an "informant tip" and there were no plants growing so obviously someone was lying.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4307

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Cops Can't Use Thermal Imagers Without Warrant, High Court Rules
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]June 14, 2001 - Washington, DC, USA

"Police must procure a warrant before they can legally use thermal imaging devices or other new technologies to detect activities taking place inside the home, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 Monday. Thermal imagers measure heat emanating from a house and are frequently used by law enforcement to identify indoor marijuana cultivation. "We think that obtaining by sense-enhancing technology any information regarding the interior of the home that could not otherwise have been obtained without physical intrusion into a constitutionally protected area constitutes a search - at least where the technology in question is not in general public use," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the Court. The decision overturns a Ninth Circuit ruling that found the warrantless use of thermal imaging did not constitute a search because "intimate details" were not revealed. "The Fourth Amendment's protection of the home has never been tied to measurement of the quality or quantity of information obtained," the high court rebuked. "In the home, ... all details are intimate details, because the entire area is held safe from prying government eyes." The defendant in the case, Danny Kyllo of Oregon, was charged with marijuana cultivation in 1992 after federal agents used thermal imaging to scan the amount of heat emanating from his home.
For more information, please contact Donna Shea, Esq., NORML Foundation Litigation Director, at (202) 483-8751."
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[greenfriend]

From what ive read is that best way to avoid detection by FLIR is:
1. a growroom should be constructed freestanding inside your house. This will prevent the roof and walls from looking "hot" on the FLIR.
2. the growroom should be covered completely with either regular house insulation, space blankets (kinda expensive), or dense foam material (styrofoam)
3. as for venting hot air, if possible vent into a sewer line, or pipe that runs a long way underground. or in winter dont vent, use it to heat your house. or cool it before it exits to the outside.

obviously the ultimate way to avoid detection is to buy a FLIR ($5000) yourself and image your house and insulate until there is no heat signature

 

[Lemmongrass]

if its illegal for a peeping tom to put a crappy IR filter on his handycam and film me thru the thin window curtain, then how is this not illegal? We already decided that utilizing the benifites of a spectrum of energy to overcome limitations of other spectrum's is illegal(lol), so why is it even up for debate?

 

[TentFarmer]

From what ive read is that best way to avoid detection by FLIR is:
1. a growroom should be constructed freestanding inside your house. This will prevent the roof and walls from looking "hot" on the FLIR.
2. the growroom should be covered completely with either regular house insulation, space blankets (kinda expensive), or dense foam material (styrofoam)
3. as for venting hot air, if possible vent into a sewer line, or pipe that runs a long way underground. or in winter dont vent, use it to heat your house. or cool it before it exits to the outside.

obviously the ultimate way to avoid detection is to buy a FLIR ($5000) yourself and image your house and insulate until there is no heat signature

Thermal Image cameras can be rented for a few hundred dollars. I've used them for work and wished I would have found a way to take it home for an hour or two. However climbing my trees with a camera at night might look a bit odd. However looking odd has never been a big concern of mine in the past.

 

[TentFarmer]

if its illegal for a peeping tom to put a crappy IR filter on his handycam and film me thru the thin window curtain, then how is this not illegal? We already decided that utilizing the benifites of a spectrum of energy to overcome limitations of other spectrum's is illegal(lol), so why is it even up for debate?

I don't believe it is the legality that is up for debate. However I know that I tend to speed on the highway and slow down when I think I might get caught. I am willing to bet that this mentality is possessed by some of our fine men and women in blue. If they use illegal tactics to discover your grow, and then look for legal methods to "discover" it in the eyes of the courts, then you and I are still screwed either way.

I personally don't question that a cop would use an illegal methods to discover my grow. However I strongly suggest that anyone who is truly concerned to find out for themselves what is visible.

hxxp://www.infraredcamerarentals.com/

 

[WeedHopper]

If you think for one minute the Police wont screw you as legal as they can,,,behind closed doors,,,no matter how illegal it is.Your living in different world the the one Im in. JUst watch the news. Dont ya see PPL getting thier asses kicked on Phone Cams by :cop:?

 

[311Grower]

I know what you mean Cowboy, we've become subjects when we're citizens and live in a police state... Cops will do what they want and rarely get punished, the problem is that cops can lie in order to get search warrants and cops lie just as much as the criminals they're trying to bust. You'd think they'd worry about the heroine traffickers, child molesters, robbers and meth heads but nothing puts a smile on a cops face like making a big marijuana grow bust no matter how small, that's why to a cop every plant = a pound, it boosts their ego. Yea dude, good job Barney Fife, you just saved like 50 bags of Doritos by busting those kids with a QP of weed. You got some seriously hardened criminals off the street, they're known for getting high and playing video games, real troublemakers....

I'm not saying Flir doesn't get used without search warrants, but if they do and you busted, most good lawyers can probably find some holes in their search warrant or the reasonable suspicion that lead to the search warrant.