Taking plants outdoors for flowering

[sMACkaddict]

Where I live, we get at most, 13.5 hours of light a day and that is around june 21. Also the climate is tropical.

If I were to take my plants that are vegging now(only a couple weeks old) and put them outside in like January or february, would they reveg because the days are getting longer everyday? Or would they be ok because its still under 14hrs of light a day?

They are local bagseed if that matters...

thanks MPers

sMACk

 

[JCChronic]

I live in the same conditions Smack. The only problem I've had was putting some SSH crosses, that i made, out around April. It revegged and never really flowered properly again. They grew OD in pots for almost 6 months before they died with nothing more than prebuds (I always had hope); and I put out their clone about a month ago and she's doing what she does best now. For the record the other strains that were out at the same time did not reveg.

 

[sMACkaddict]

hmmmmm well thats good news... whats SSH? super silver haze? It worries me that a random strain could respond poorly too it, but I guess thats what I risk...
Awesome, thanks for the response JC

sMACk

 

[sMACkaddict]

what kinda bugs have you had to deal with JC? Also, do you have a problem with your containers getting too hot? like heating up the roots? any other problems youve noticed specific to moving outdoors?

Sorry to hear about that SSH btw, must have been a bummer...

thanks again
sMACk

 

[JCChronic]

yeah, Super Silver haze x Top44, and they were about 5' tall at the end they looked like bad wheat. I've had spider mites, mealy bugs and these little black button bugs that look to be piercing bugs. But I think I've had some kind of predators too 'cause the SM never got too strong of a foothold.
Hot roots... without a doubt. I just lost 2 dutch passion plants to what I think was dense soil (my bad) in combination with hot damp condition in the soil, within 3 weeks outside I lost a white widow and orange bud BUT, the surviving clone of the bad wheat is in the same soil mix and loving it (the happy side of the story I have 2 pair of clones from both DP plants to try again with lighter soil)

 

[sMACkaddict]

hmm, good info... you ever try doubling up pots to try and reduce the heat for the root zone?
thank god for clones!

what soil and nutes do you use?

sMACk

 

[JCChronic]

for the soil I don't have the luxury of being able to read details on the bag so I choose the ones that say organic and this time I used what I think is greensand but, I believe I overdid that on the mix oh, and I used Allum peat moss, that's where the dampness came from. Presently I've taken everything, old and new, and tossed it together with one more bag of soil and alot of perlite. I use Earth juice and started adding pro-tek for teh heat.

 

[JCChronic]

No I haven't, I was going to try putting some kind of skirt around them next, I was thinking about using all the bags my soil came in but, they seem to crumble after long exposure to the sun, so...still lookin', the heat isn't a concern for me anymore, winter is beautiful for gardening.

 

[drfting07]

sMACk, Ill try and answer a few of your questions. I cant answer the questions about reveg, tho as I have never had to go thru it. I always put my girls outdoors during veg and they go thru summer and flower in august.

Almost all outdoor girls will flower when they see 14 hours of sunlight day, 10 hours of dark. This process happens at a much slower rate than indoors tho, because you are able to give them 24 hours of light, then straight into 12/12. Thats also why its hard for us outdoor growers to pinpoint the exact week of flower, and its much easier for us to know when to harvest by looking at tric development, instead of going by the week of flower.

As far as outdoor bugs go, i keep it in check, and the natural predetor vs prey scenario keeps everything else in check. A little Sevin Dust around the perimeter, as well as organic sprays to use in veg, will go a long way. Caterpillars, Leaf-hoppers, Borg, Aphids, SM. They all are found outdoors, but if you keep your plant healthy, and do routine sprays until early flower, you should be fine.

Ever try doubling up pots to try and reduce the heat for the root zone?
thank god for clones!

what soil and nutes do you use?

I also grow in pots outdoors. I bury them below the surface of the ground, and they stay much cooler that way. Just be sure to move the pot around, check under it, look for bugs ect....This is mainly because your plants will find there way thru your drain holes and anchor themselves into the ground. :cool2: Just pick them up every once in a while to avoid this.

Soil and nutes: Pro-mix BX +Myco is my base soil. I add Worm Castings dolomite lime, and water with added mollasses. For nute i use Dr. Earth Dry Organic Fertilizer mixes. Organic 5 for veg, Life in early flowering, and organic 8 for bloom. This year i bought humboldt nutrients organic bloom. I like that i can mix it with ph'd water and feed, instead of brewing fertilizer teas with the dr. earth. I LOVE dr. earth for veg and early flower tho. I use nothing else. I use it when i mix the soil, and as a liquid tea. I wont use anything else.

Hope this helps :48:
Drfting

 

[sMACkaddict]

Awesome drfting, that was a very comprehensive answer! I am going to ahve to do some trial and error and just see how it goes...

thanks again!

sMACk

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

How many hours of daylight are you going to be getting when you put the plants out? I believe that if your plants are flowering and you put them into lengthening days, they will go into reveg.

 

[sMACkaddict]

Thanks for droppin in THG!

I can't tell you exactly because I'm not sure when I'll put them out, but it will be around 11 hours, peaking at 13.5 hours about 4 months later

sMACk

 

[oldsman]

I ran into this situation this year as well.Started seeds inside,vegged a little inside and then put them outside mid Feb,they started to bud.I figured that bringing them from 24 hrs of light inside to like 10.5 hrs of light once they were outside triggered the change.These actually had time to bud out and gave me some early smoke.I threw some more plants outside from inside about 2 weeks after throwing the first round out and these are the ones that started budding because of the light hrs changing,but after they adjusted to the timing of the sun,days were getting longer,the plant realized it and went back to vegging and most never did produce much.I think it confuses the plant and it wastes a lot of grow time getting it's game back on track.So I think if your weather is good enough temp wise and you find the sweet spot before the days really start getting longer they may have time to bud out for you.Our days seem to gradually get longer and longer going into springtime.It starts increasing slowly at first,maybe just by a few seconds,but increasing as the planet starts to tilt.As the planet tilts and time goes by the days get longer faster increasing now by minutes from the previous day until you hit the peak tilt of the planet,solstice.After this point the planet starts to tilt back away from the sun thus reversing the process,again, starting by just seconds shorter a day until we get to now where it seems to get dark at 5pm.It is all about timing.If you can get it right you can get an early harvest,or not get the timing right and have some confused girls.I hope some of this makes sense.

 

[sMACkaddict]

ok well I will def try and get them out there as early as possible...

thanks oldsman, I've been looking at daylength calendars online and it looks like its a steady progression from the equinox to the solstice in my area.

sMACk