wow, awesome stuff. great ideas for sure.
duck, thanks alot. gonna get a few bars of irish spring ready. that is some smelly bar soap for sure.
heemhoff, i appreciate your help. im gonna try to cage them in with some kinda chicken wire contraption. what is this copper ring idea you got?? could you elaborate a little please.... like a piece of copper pipe around the stalk??
clanchatten, thanks for some humour

. might try the beer can thing if it wont just attract them too much. you are gonna need a bigger bow if you are gonna tackle the deer around here.... or more bows anyway and i got 3/4 of one in the freezer right now

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dlm3, thanks to you as well for the input. i will not be able to urinate near them everyday but will every chance i get

. i have heard that dog pee works too?? i like the store bought scent idea as well, thanks.
tc, i am hoping for a yard grow but am not sure yet. i figure i will drop a couple stealth wise as well but either way i will not have daily access to them due to my work schedule. i have heard also that moth balls attached to the chicken wire works too, any knowledge? mmmmmmmmmm.... cougar scent, oh you mean the cat

. i figure any animal that is prey to that animal would stay way clear of that smell. thanks for stopping in tc.
dman, they are gonna be effen huge by september lol. i have a couple in a closet right now that i started from clone on jan.15 and i started flowering them yesterday. using them as a size reference they are now 2 1/2 feet tall and 3 feet in diameter. i just grew a batch of them and i flowered them at 35 days from seed and managed almost 100 grams a plant. they were 1 foot tall and hardly mature enough to flower. soooo if i take the size of the plant then and the size of the plants now divided by the number days that i work plus the amount of sunlight they get and all the hard work and tuff loving i give them i figure i should have some big plants lmao. 2 weeks to root and 6-8 weeks vegging indoors is plenty. i am hoping that i can get a good amount from 6 plants that big instead of trying to get the same amount from 30 smaller ones. i dunno if that makes sense lmao.
diversified, thank you. that is a cheap enough remedy to try for sure. do you think a liquid pepper spray mix of some sort might work the same?
thanks everyone for the help and ideas. i think im in for a good grow this year with the help of people like you. happy growing.