Prepping for first grow! :)

[Dr. Green Fang]

2 of these pumps:

hxxp://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ecoplus-air-6w-2outlet-variable-control-air-pump-p-1516.html

And 4 of these stones:

hxxp://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/shopping_cart.php?sort=2a

Which makes me think, WOW that's quite a cheap price!

 

[ShOrTbUs]

remember to try to use the same strain when putting multiple plants into 1 reservoir.

also, try to space the plants as far from each other in the reservoir. the roots will grow into each other, to the point where separating them is impossible. if one of the plants turns out to be male and you have to cull him out. all those dead roots in your reservoir can cause problems. also when doing a scrog, you wont be able to move the reservoirs after the plants have been woven into the netting. you will need a small water pump and hose in order to change out the reservoir.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

remember to try to use the same strain when putting multiple plants into 1 reservoir.

also, try to space the plants as far from each other in the reservoir. the roots will grow into each other, to the point where separating them is impossible. if one of the plants turns out to be male and you have to cull him out. all those dead roots in your reservoir can cause problems. also when doing a scrog, you wont be able to move the reservoirs after the plants have been woven into the netting. you will need a small water pump and hose in order to change out the reservoir.

Yep, I'm using Pineapple Chunk to start. I'm having the spacing around the same at THG's.. maybe even a bit further, as I'll have more room and slightly larger res.

How is Attitude's Fem seeds? Getting 5 of them, and crossing my fingers for true fems. If there's a male, then yea, I'll have some work to do. As for changing my res out, Growdude linked a video that showed a nifty trick for a drain. OR yes, I have some cheap pumps that would get it out.. also I have wet/dry vac.

Thanks for continued support Shortbus. You're one in a mill

 

[WrEkkED]

I've ordered off of Attitude and Nirvana, I have had 100% germination rate with both. Both were outside and grew very nice plants. I wouldn't be concerned about quality or genetics from attitude at all.

 

[Locked]

How is Attitude's Fem seeds? Getting 5 of them, and crossing my fingers for true fems. If there's a male, then yea, I'll have some work to do.

It all comes down to breeder. Attitude is just a vendor that sells a bunch of breeders gear. Kind of like a mall. Most descent breeders fem gear is good. The only fem bean I have ever gotten a male from was from a freebie giveaway during a promotion. Other then that I have had no problems with fem beans. Other then the price.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Well I'm surely going to be cloning once I find out the sex... at that point Ill purchase a T5 and do a little side veg area.

 

[ShOrTbUs]

attitude is like a department store. attitude doesn't actually have seeds themselves, they sell seeds for other breeders. you dont have to worry about getting males when buying fem seeds. hermies happen from time to time, but i never hear about anyone getting a full on male.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Pretty sure I'm using 2 of these bins with 2 plants per, like THG did pretty much.

hxxp://walmart.com/ip/Rubbermaid-31-Gallon-Roughneck-Storage-Tote/21098644

 

[ShOrTbUs]

are you still gonna buy bucket lids? i find them to be much sturdier then regular net pots. it makes handling larger plant easier

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

If you think the investment to Bucket Lids is worth it from regular Net Pots, then surely. Every tutorial I saw, people were just using reg mesh net pots.... but I"m a noob and just absorbing my way along!

 

[ShOrTbUs]

i did 10 plants in a 20gal res. they were reg seeds and i ended up chopping down 6 males leaving 4 females in the res. i had to use screws on the net pots to keep the 2 larger females from falling over. the lid on my tote was flimsy as well. you wont have the same problems i did if you buy regular 6" net pots. the weight of the hydroton will keep them upright. it takes a decent amount of hydroton to fill a 6" net pot. i suggest at least a 10liter bag, if your doing 4 6" pots.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Perfect.. now that all sounds good Shortbus.

I'm picking up all that DWC stuff local (it's looking like).. just need tent and nutes and everything besides containment fully sorted.. which I think I have that all sorted at plantlighting hydroponics site.

Things are starting to come together!



So I germinate in water, then plug into rockwool.... veg in that am I correct so far?

 

[ShOrTbUs]

i like rapid rooter way more then rockwool. rockwool has to soaked in ph'd water before use b/c they will raise the ph. ph is so so so important in hydro.

i just want to say before hand, that the way i germinate is way more complicated then it has to be. i just do it this way b/c its the way i like to. there are many many many ways to sow beans. many are much simpler then mine.

i soak my beans in a glass of water for roughly 2 days. in a dark place about 70F. by this time the seeds will have cracked if viable. then the sowed seeds go into wet paper towels for roughly 2 days. still in darkness. by this time the tap root is 1/4" or longer and ready to be transplanted into the rapid rooter plugs. i then move them into my humidity dome tray & placed under 2 23 watt cfl's. rr plugs are very good at wicking water to stay evenly moist. so i just put a little water at the bottom of the tray and the plugs do the rest. when roots show through the bottom of the RR plugs, then they are placed into the hydroton in nets pots, in a 10gal tote. i dont put my plants into the 20gal tote till they go into flowering. you will be wasting a lot of nutes if you go directly into the 20 gal res.you can do all 4 in the 10 gal res up to about 4 weeks. you just have to keep an eye on the root systems of the plants and make sure they dont get tangled with each other. i actually considered for my next dwc, cutting the bottom out of a large clear freezer ziploc bag. attaching it to the bottom of the net pot to keep the roots from drifting in the res and tangling themselves up.

 

[ShOrTbUs]

after the plants are transplanted into the 10gal veg tote, i start them at about 200ppm and i double the ppms each week till i hit 800ppm. only up the nutes 100-200ppm each weak after till i see slight nute burn, then back off a tad. remember to buy black totes that are very sturdy. and look for totes with thick flat lids. a lot of tote lids have a bunch of elevation changes on them that makes it complicated to drill holes for net pots to sit flush in.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Ok, Rapid Rooter it is

I'm good with germination process up till the tray. You say you put in hydroton but not into 20gal res... how do I keep the hydroton'd pots going outside of the 20gals? (sorry.. just a slight bit confused... surely will get it sorted)

after the plants are transplanted into the 10gal veg tote

I don't know why but I'm confused from germination and general first few week growing in RR to limbo in 10 gal before 20gal? I'm missing something

 

[ShOrTbUs]

these are some of my posts when i was doing the dwc in totes. the pics might help



germination:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showpost.php?p=801236&postcount=9

veg tote:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showpost.php?p=801990&postcount=16

flower tote:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showpost.php?p=806976&postcount=33

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

And transplant into 6" pots + 20(30)gal after the 3" pots?


So much confusion

 

[ShOrTbUs]

ok i see where you are confused, sorry bout that. ok, you want to buy 3 totes 1 10gal, and 2 20gal. cut 2 6" holes in each 20 gal tote. cut 4 6" holes in the 10 gal. when you transplant from the 10 gal to the 20 gal's. just lift up the net pot, plant and all. and place it in one of the holes in the 20 gal. if you want you can use 4" net pots to save on how much hydroton you need, and how large of holes you have to cut into the tote lids.

but like i said before, the smaller net pot you use the more fragile they become. thats why it was a mistake on my part to use 3" net pots(as seen in pics above). when my plants reached 3ft and had heavy buds on them. the net pots didnt provide much stability without having to drill holes and zip tie them to the tote lid.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

ok i see where you are confused, sorry bout that. ok, you want to buy 3 totes 1 10gal, and 2 20gal. cut 2 6" holes in each 20 gal tote. cut 4 6" holes in the 10 gal. when you transplant from the 10 gal to the 20 gal's. just lift up the net pot, plant and all. and place it in one of the holes in the 20 gal. if you want you can use 4" net pots to save on how much hydroton you need, and how large of holes you have to cut into the tote lids.

+Rep!

Thanks for clarifying so well! I understand now.... I'll just use 6" pots in both 10 and 20.. the plants won't be big enough to screw things up when closer to start... easier just to leave in 6"

Excellent.. On the way! 9 hours and the ebay auction is over.. then pend my money from paypal into my bank account.

Can.. not... wait!!!!

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I assume this stuff is just the same as any other hydroton?

hxxp://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/gold-label-hydrocorn-45-liter-bag-p-4088.html