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Deep in the North American woods lurks a recent addition to the marijuana gene pool: Ruderalis hybrids! The forests and fields are coming alive with resinated plants, blasting their way to maturity under the intense light of the summer sun, long before the buzzing of choppers or moldy autumn weather.

Until recently, Ruderalis had been almost unanimously given a bad name by cultivators and breeders alike. Early Dutch seed pioneers like Super Sativa Seed Club voiced their concerns about Ruderalis early in the homegrown revolution. This was all with understandable reason, as pure Ruderalis varieties are almost completely devoid of THC and come with a host of other problems for the grower or breeder.

Breeding programs between Ruderalis and drug type strains can and have produced plants of notable quality. The aim of this article is to shine some light on this recent advance in marijuana breeding and pave the way to what could be the future of outdoor marijuana cultivation for many areas of the world.

What is Ruderalis?

Cannabis Ruderalis is a subspecies of Cannabis Sativa. The term was originally used in the former Soviet Union to describe the varieties of hemp that had escaped cultivation and adapted to the surrounding region.

Similar Ruderalis populations can be found in most of the areas where hemp cultivation was once prevalent. The most notable region in North America is the midwest, though populations occur sporadically throughout the United States and Canada. Without the human hand aiding in selection, these plants have lost many of the traits they were originally selected for, and have acclimatized to their locale.

Though they contain little THC, these plants hold large potential for use in breeding, both in hemp and marijuana applications. Early flowering and resistance to locally significant insect and disease pressures are but a few of the important traits present in these feral populations.

Thankfully, despite years of US government sponsored eradication programs, these wild plants still remain in bountiful abundance.
[SIZE=-2]Early Bud: this one will be ready while other buds are not.[/SIZE]Early efforts

The first documented experiments in crossing drug strain varieties with their Ruderalis cousins were performed by Ernest Small of Agriculture Canada in Ontario during the 1970's, for the aiding in the purposes of taxonomic classification. Crosses between these strains usually produced offspring of intermediate THC levels, with a few that leaned more towards the high THC end of the spectrum. It was concluded during this research that hybrids between drug and non-drug (both ruderal and hemp cultivars were tested) generally produced progeny of intermediate potency.1

Perhaps the most known efforts to incorporate Ruderalis traits into drug hybrids are those of Nevil, proprietor of the original Seed Bank, and the person largely responsible for the original dispersion of many of today's drug varieties.

During the 1980's, Nevil experimented with crossing Ruderalis strains to plants such as Mexican, Skunk#1 and several Indicas, in hopes of combining the early flowering of the Ruderalis with the potency and flavor of the others.

Although some of Neville's crosses matured much earlier than previous marijuana strains, they tended to be low in potency, unstable in terms of maturity, and often sported buds that were leafy with shrunken calyxes.
[SIZE=-2]Early Purple: sweet Rudy in the mix.[/SIZE]BC's Mighty Mite

About this time, on British Columbia's Gulf islands, an outdoor grower was noticing that his October finishing strain always threw out a few plants that finished much earlier – by late July or early August. After several years of selections for this early flowering trait, the Mighty Mite strain was born.2 Mighty Mite effectively incorporated the auto-flowering trait, while retaining the habit and potency of its drug cultivar heritage.

For those in the know, Mighty Mite quickly became a popular outdoor strain for filling the traditional late summer drought in BC's pot market before the market was flooded with regular seasonal outdoor bud. Slowly, over the years, these genetics have spread further amongst underground pot growers and been used most successfully in hybridizations with more potent strains.

Aside from getting crops in before cops and other thieves can plunder them, these early plants have allowed growers to produce plants with much more commercial appeal than traditional Northern latitude outdoor marijuana.

Warm, dry summer weather with high light values allow buds to finish bright green and rock hard, making for better bag appeal. It is impossible to tell whether the many auto-flowering strains floating around all originated in the Mighty Mite family or are a result of many similar incidents, but it is certainly the most proven of all the auto-flowering strains. The fact that Mighty Mite is an inbred line and relatively true breeding for its auto-flowering trait would make it seem likely to have been a large contributor.

DJ Short has recently speculated that Ruderalis introductions into the drug cannabis gene pool likely came from repeated selections for early flowering traits from Indica based lines rather than actually being imported from Russia or surrounding countries (CC#39, Breeding Tips). Both of these scenarios are quite possible. General consensus is that all drug, hemp and feral strains of cannabis originated from the same source gene pool, therefore, Indica varieties would also have these auto-flower genes present somewhere in their genetic makeup.
[SIZE=-2]Get those buds in before choppers and thieves come looking![/SIZE]Early flowering explored

The marijuana strains most of us have been familiar with begin flowering once the night period reaches the individual plant's critical night length. This critical length varies depending on where the strain originated. Generally, there is a critical period of darkness required to begin flowering, and a second slightly longer critical dark requirement for it to ripen completely.

Many Indica varieties begin to flower when the day length drops to about 13 1/2-14 hours, while Sativas will often not begin to flower until less than a 12 hour day length is achieved.

In comparison, many of today's Ruderalis/drug strain hybrids flower automatically when they reach a given maturity, regardless of photoperiod. Even under lights on 18 hours a day, they completely mature from seed to bud in less than 90 days.

I've seen test plants from Mighty Mite hybrid lines that were started outdoors in early March, and had completely finished by late July. This could indicate that crossing auto-flowering plants to those that are photoperiod determinant lengthens a genetically predetermined period required before non-photoperiod dependent floral onset.

A second scenario is that within the ruderal strains that have been introduced to the drug gene pool there also exists genetic information of photoperiod adaptation to north latitudes.

Many of these Ruderalis/drug hybrids are also known for being very sensitive to other environmental factors. Things such as cloning, letting plants go too dry or getting pot bound can easily send them into heavy flowering.

The big unknown that still remains in these new lines of marijuana is what is actually causing the flowering on a biological level? Is there an internal clock, a genetically predetermined number of cell divisions that must take place before the plant begins to put up buds?

Another possibility is that once night-induced flowering hormone levels accumulate to certain levels within the plant it will begin to flower.

If the flowering is not dependent on having a dark period, these new cultivars could prove useful in backyard city growing situations, where streetlights and other forms of light pollution often prevent proper maturation of photoperiod dependent strains.
 
Problems and pitfalls

As these genetics further penetrate the drug cannabis gene pool they have potential to cause both harm and good.

Imagine getting mothers up and going for your next big crop and finding that at 60 days they all begin to go into full flower. A costly inconvenience at the least!

However, the potential for great advances is also there for the taking. How about auto-flowering Haze strains that ripen in the middle of summer, in areas where previously even the earliest Indicas would not ripen in time? Commercial growers could pull two crops per summer without ever having to worry about shading!

Breeding climate

One of the largest problems associated with breeding outdoor varieties for northern latitude areas like Canada or Holland is that the climate puts no pressure on plants to produce high psychoactivity. In fact it selects for the opposite.

So long as the breeder is selecting for high potency on a multi-parent level, potency can be upheld. However, if this same breeding program were undertaken in an environment that naturally selects for high THC plants (like highland Colombia or Thailand) the resulting average desirable cannabinoid levels would be much higher.

There is likely a threshold effect on the potential of any given strain as related to the environment it is being selected in. By incorporating auto-flower genes into the north latitude outdoor marijuana gene pool, plants would be finishing under more direct sunlight and warmer weather. This environment is much more conducive to high THC levels, thereby raising the threshold level for the particular strain.
[SIZE=-2]Mighty cola in the morning sun.[/SIZE]Ruderalis and hemp

It is very likely that Ruderalis varieties have already made for an important advance in hemp cultivars. The variety FIN314 was developed from genetic material originating in Russia and seems to have the same auto-flowering trait noted in Mighty Mite and other hybrids.

FIN314 seeds that accidentally germinated in a Quebec farmer's field in early April were found in full flower by early June.3 Along with adding the possibility of twin crops in a season, this allows the oilseed variety to finish short enough to be easily harvested by current machinery, which clogs when fed the standard taller hemp varieties.

The genetic history of the parents of FIN 314 is unknown, other than that they were acquired from a germplasm collection from Russia. However, it is believed that at least one of the parents was a Ruderalis accession.4 If the widespread adoption of FIN314 by hemp farmers is any indication of the future of Ruderalis/drug hybrids with pot growers, there will be a mass dispersal in the coming years.

Buyer beware

There are still many commercially offered Ruderalis hybrid strains that are very low quality and should barely be classed as drug varieties. At the same time, the finest Canadian outdoor pot to have crossed my path so far was from Mighty Mite derived lines that were harvested in July and August.

The future seems clear for Ruderalis/marijuana hybrids. As many governments ease up on antiquated cannabis laws, more and more people will take up growing. A couple of auto-flowers on the back deck will likely fit the lifestyle of many more folks than would an indoor grow room.

Demand for stabilized, auto-flowering hybrids of high drug value, in combination with saner drug laws, will pressure marijuana breeders to move forward on bringing these to fruition.

Until then, the ability to have marijuana crops maturing at any time of the growing season should wreak havoc on CAMP style police tactics that have been accustomed to only searching for plants one or two months of the year. This, if for no other reason, seems ample enough to plant some auto-flowerers today!
 
i see the conversation stop after THC pop (paste/copy) essay :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
update on pics..........28 days. I will post more in 3 days (thursday). thanks.

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brouli said:
i see the conversation stop after THC pop essay :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Pop essay"??....it's a c/p from CC. .:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
and it certainly didn't change my opinions of the detrimental aspects of breeding hemp lines into marijuana.
DJ Short(as was quoted and credited) has a reputation for breeding the finest quality strains. It took him several years of selection and testing, to bring his Blueberry to stabalization, true breeding, and ready to release to the public. It is, he is, regarded as one of the most successfull breeders/breeding projects in recent mj history.
"Who" is DMT????
What has he produced?..Any credentials we can consider?..
 
OK Hick now let me ask you a question , what would you do if you dont have a lot of space and can grow something very short and like everybody else something quick ???
what i heard Lowryder buzz its not that weak, and let be honest on one thing do you seriously think that people even here on this forum that grow freakin 20 , 30 plants they do it for personal use ?? comone now


but i still think that what you and E-man state on this thread was good for the topic , now only thing we got left is to let people decide what they wonna do . and i think you agree on that :)
 
THC they look awesome
but i got a question you will keep them under those 3 lights thru the whole grow ??
 
brouli said:
OK Hick now let me ask you a question , what would you do if you dont have a lot of space and can grow something very short and like everybody else something quick ???
what i heard Lowryder buzz its not that weak, and let be honest on one thing do you seriously think that people even here on this forum that grow freakin 20 , 30 plants they do it for personal use ?? comone now


but i still think that what you and E-man state on this thread was good for the topic , now only thing we got left is to let people decide what they wonna do . and i think you agree on that :)

"Super" fast, early matureing plants may be all THE rage at the moment, and may serve a purpose to those with little patience, space or desirability for "top quality", but IMHO are NOT doing the gene pool any favors.
I think I already answered that brouli...
and I said in another thread, that I felt it serves a purpose, for a certain "nich" of growers. But, I'll reiterate, "I" don't think it is doing the gene pool any good"..
Didn't you once say you owned/ran a pitbull kennel?
Did you breed your best ***** to the mongrel mutt that romed the neighborhood?
"Choose only the best. Do away with the rest." when choosing breeding stock.

Plant counts can go against you, in the event that your grow was busted. Judge or jury is going to see 100 plants differently than they will see 10, no?..In my state, I'm allowed 6 plants legaly, with 3 in flower. In CA, I believe the number is 99.
 
brouli said:
OK Hick now let me ask you a question , what would you do if you dont have a lot of space and can grow something very short and like everybody else something quick ???
what i heard Lowryder buzz its not that weak, and let be honest on one thing do you seriously think that people even here on this forum that grow freakin 20 , 30 plants they do it for personal use ?? comone now


but i still think that what you and E-man state on this thread was good for the topic , now only thing we got left is to let people decide what they wonna do . and i think you agree on that :)

Just adding to what Hick pointed out, although many of us may be medcal, maybe even caregivers, we still have the feds and thieves to fear. Security is number one and IMO we should all keep our mouths shut.;) I did not put thousands of dollar price tags on my plants, the feds and dealers did that. If the laws were the same as they were 100 years ago, well...you would all be invited to a barbeque...and you know what I mean.:smoke1:

As far as compact plants, any strain will show sex 2-4 weeks under 12/12. It really is not that hard to understand. Some whites and AK I know for a fact will show at closer to 2 weeks, some 99% sativas may take 4-5 weeks, but flowering time starts at the moment of maturity, so add that to your time to maturity.

Many blueberry strains finish in 7 weeks flat. I know, I have one. The male has shown at about 11 days, the female will show in the next ten days. Cull the males and clone away, harvest your seedlings 7 weeks later...do you understand? Much easier than dealing with the complexities of breeding, and I personally would rather smoke and grow MJ that is revered, not feared.

Nice 'copy and paste' essay THC.:rolleyes: You really should quote the author next time.
 
o Thanks E-man , you mention that bluebery (some strains) will be ready to harvest in like 7 weeks ??
can you tell me which one ??
thanks again man
 
brouli said:
o Thanks E-man , you mention that bluebery (some strains) will be ready to harvest in like 7 weeks ??
can you tell me which one ??
thanks again man

Mine is Nirvana's Blue Mystic, it is Blueberry X Skunk.
D.J. Short's blueberry finishes fast too.
White Rhino will preflower early and finish fast too.
 
dammm my favorite no lowryder plant White Rhino i wil get that some how and i will try thanks E-Man
 
I see we are still debating on the importance of the Lowryder! Right on, right on. This just makes this little strain more interesting. Anyway, Hick, I don't know why you drop to your knees and laugh about what I posted. I never said I wrote it or claimed to have written it? The reason I did it like that is because I have posted links and sometimes people would ignore the link and still ask the same questions. This way it is clear to all for reading. Its ok that you are not convinced, it was never a thought or importance on making you think other wise. I mean, the only reason I am doing this is to show peeps on the ups and downs of Lowryder. So you don't like it? that is perfect in your aspect of looking at it. I am not on a mission to change that either. You guys have good read and keep it cool. Please do not take any offense, you are helpful and very expierenced in growing my friends. ;)
 
It's the same here, only a little bit different. Here your screwed no matter what. Here if the plants are flowered and ripe and you were to get caught, They charge you not only by count, but by weighing your crop and then determining your fate in court. It sucks here. My buddy got popped here about 3 weeks ago and luckily his plant were'nt mature yet. He was busted with 76 plants all of which were still in veg stage, lucky him. He paid a lawyer (rough estimate) about $3,200.00 dollars and got of with red flag probation and no felonies on his record. He was in jail for 6 hours and was free to do buisness again. Remember, having kids can greatly increase the chances of you getting caught. they get hurt, they get in a fight, they cause trouble, they can sometimes run their mouth at school, there is a dozen of more reasons on how a kid could get you caught. Its not thier fault, they are who they are, kids. Anyway thats how my homie got popped, His kid lost his key to the house and when he got home he jumped through window and one of the neighbors saw him and called the cops reporting a breaking and entering. Well the cops showed up to his house and bieng the kid was too young to be home alone (13yrs), they had no choice but to questioned the kid to see if he was really one of residents living there. In the process of doing just that, cops started walking around the house to make sure there was no broken windows or other people with the so called robber (his boy). They checked everything and called it good up untill a rookie cop decided to check the garage..........BINGO! All 76 plants sitting under Hydroponic systems were destroyed along with the lights and equipment. So just be carefull, no matter what strain it is, they are all risky buisness when illegal in your area. Its way safer thatn crack, cocain, meth, and alot of other drugs killing people every day.
 
I recieved my order for 3-Way from soul seeds.

I ordered another one, Master Kush. I am waiting for them to stock Afghanryder and lowsnow.
here is the link...
http://soulseeds.co.uk/

The delivery was super fast! I got mine in 4 days.
 
THCskunk said:
I see we are still debating on the importance of the Lowryder! Right on, right on. This just makes this little strain more interesting. Anyway, Hick, I don't know why you drop to your knees and laugh about what I posted. I never said I wrote it or claimed to have written it? The reason I did it like that is because I have posted links and sometimes people would ignore the link and still ask the same questions. This way it is clear to all for reading. Its ok that you are not convinced, it was never a thought or importance on making you think other wise. I mean, the only reason I am doing this is to show peeps on the ups and downs of Lowryder. So you don't like it? that is perfect in your aspect of looking at it. I am not on a mission to change that either. You guys have good read and keep it cool. Please do not take any offense, you are helpful and very expierenced in growing my friends. ;)

It was a "good read" thc, the laffing was NOT at the article, or your information. I see how it appeared that way. "I" prefer the c/p to a posted link. It puts the info into the context of the thread. As eman related, though, the author should be credited. It not only lends credibility(if due), but it prevents the author from seeing it and feeling he has been plagerised.
thanks for your understanding in the matter.

Sorry to hear about your friend. We're all dealing with draconian laws. One never knows when fate will come a' callin'.
"I know"..first hand. Several yrs ago, I had a small patch busted. They weighed rootballs,(dirt 'n all), stalks, leaves, all wet. It was sufficient to make it in excess of 8 oz. which makes it a feloniuos offense.
 
Thats a good thread...soulseeds. gonna stick to the little ones like these as well.snow looks really nice.....could be my next one!!! p.s. have started a grow journal with some pics now...take a look.
 
thats cool picasso, I'll take look. oh yeah HIck, I have no idea what his name stands for. But I do know it is a type of drug somtimes mixed with our favorite drug....Marijuana. :D
 
I am using Flora Nova every four days, is that good or bad? What do you guys recommend? I know I said I would post Thursday, but man! They are already looking pretty damn yummy. this is day 30. 4weeks today. according to the books, 5 more and they will be ready! I'll be tasting the crossed strains of this plant on 420 man!:ccc: ............thats if everything goes well.

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they look awesomeeeee :eek: :eek: :eek:

just dont forget about me and share some info what did you cross ??
if you nova tehnique got you this far and that god keep it up my brother
 

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