LED UFO's.......

[la9]

I actually tried 3 different lighting setups for my grow box.
1) 150 watt cfl
2) (4) 60/40 red/blue 15 watt LED bulbs
3) (4) 24" T5 tubes

I needed something small, simple to use, low heat. I flower with a 400w HPS. So for me the winner was the...T5 tubes. Not cheap, but effective. The plants I grew with the Leds took longer, but had the shortest internodal spacing. The CFL did fine, but the T5 was noticably better.

T5 tubes are astronomically cheaper than LED and work far better. The reason is they are brighter and disperse the light better.

 

[WeedHopper]

T5 tubes are astronomically cheaper than LED and work far better. The reason is they are brighter and disperse the light better.

What wattage 24" T5 bulb were you using? And do they make them in a warm and cool bulb?:hubba:

 

[la9]

DAMN!!!! COME ON!!! EVERYONE SMOKE A BOWL AND FLIPPN CHILL OUT!!!! First off I started this thread to start a conversation about LED's. Primarily the UFO brand. I am currently using 3 ufo's and a 600w hps on a few plants in a small room and the results are astronomicly different!! I see a distinct increase in bud sites. I do see a constant problem with drooping leaves though. Also, yes they are expensive BUT so is a four wheeler or set of golf clubs or a lift kit on a 4X4 or a new PS3 or whatever your passion is...
If you grow for money than use Hps. They are cheap to get and are tossable. I..and most others, I assume.. Are in to growing for much different reasons. I like the hobby, I LOVE the fact that I am not going to a "dealers" house and subjecting my self to all the eliments that come with that. Being robbed, shorted, burned, OR worst yet, what happens if your in a house to pck up a small bag for personal and the place is raided. They have bags of pot, pills, meth, scales, baggies piles of cash and GUNS in the same room as you. Now your in one bad situation!! Why put your self there if you can grow a few ounces every couple months in a spare closet. LED's eliminate alot of heat and use less power, they allow for a stealth grow. Even if the crop takes a few extra weeks to mature and has a slightly smaller yield, The one time investment may be well worth it to a closet grower. As a closet grower, I can see where these LED's MAY be invaluable to some one who grows to smoke only. My next grow will be done with 100% LED's and I am in no hurry to harvest, so its going to be fun to see how it turns out.

Yes they are expensive but using your comparison can you tell a vast improvement with an expensive set of golf clubs over the cheap set ? Of course you can. Can you see a vast improvement with LED lighting over cheaper options, no, you get worse results. Does th eLift kit on the 4x4 actually improve performance, of course it does. Does LED improve your performance in lighting, no it doesn't.

Then you try to scare people about getting busted.

Then we go to the LED's do not produce heat, blah blah blah, guess what, they do produce just as much heat, put 400 watts of LED lights in a closet and you get the same heat as 400 watts of HID lighting, go figure.

Then mentioning heat, you still say you are using a 600 watt hps with the UFO light, if you are trying to keep the cops from busting from the big heat signature why not stick with 3 UFO's and get rid of the 600 HPS ????

The answer is that the UFO's don't work. Not only that but since they are imported they are manufactured to cheap standards and rarely last longer than 6 months without problems. It's a shame, it really is.

 

[la9]

What wattage 24" T5 bulb were you using? And do they make them in a warm and cool bulb?:hubba:

T5 bulbs come in all color temperature nowadays, they are popular in the pet industry, go look into aquarium lighting and reptile lighting, you can get any temperature you want and the bulbs are usually around $15 a piece, if you DIY you can get a ballast for $30 - $50 for about any size T5 setup you want.

So $80 vs $600 and get far better results, hard decision isn't it ?

 

[la9]

the 24 inch T5 HO bulbs are 24 watts. They also make themin standard cool white and warm if you don't want the exotic tubes.

 

[WeedHopper]

So $80 vs $600 and get far better results, hard decision isn't it ?

I really dont know anything about LEDS, I use CFL's, but im just messen around right now with my 1st indoor grow and I like the small T5 bulbs. Just wasnt sure if they were better then CFL's. I will take a look.
Other then that I was just sayen to mellow, cause it aint worth sweaten the small stuff Bro.
Anyway I will look into the T5's next time im at Lowes.

 

[la9]

I really dont know anything about LEDS, I use CFL's, but im just messen around right now with my 1st indoor grow and I like the small T5 bulbs. Just wasnt sure if they were better then CFL's. I will take a look.
Other then that I was just sayen to mellow, cause it aint worth sweaten the small stuff Bro.
Anyway I will look into the T5's next time im at Lowes.

I like the longer tubes better than CFL's, I think the plants do also. T5 bulbs may be hard to find at Lowes but I think they might have the 24 inch size, last time I looked they didn't carry the 4 foot 54 watt ones yet.

 

[umbra]

I like the longer tubes better than CFL's, I think the plants do also. T5 bulbs may be hard to find at Lowes but I think they might have the 24 inch size, last time I looked they didn't carry the 4 foot 54 watt ones yet.

yes the 24" is more readily available. But also my vegging space is 24" deep, so it fit as well. AlienBait probably has the most amount of experience with the LED grows. I haven't seen him post in awhile. His conclusion was the same. Its not quite there yet.

 

[thc is good for me]

Just grow with a 400 watt hps for $100 and stop all this nonsense it only costs $9 a month in electricity. My first grow i got 4 oZ with 4 plants with 4 week veg 8 week flower.

There you go $127 for 4 oZ and you get a 400 Watt too. next grow only cost $27. I know I know you gotta buy nutes so ok $20 for those $47 for 4oZ $12 an oZ


I know Led's are neat i actually have a 226 led board i got from ebay for $30 its cool and works fine for vegging clones. But there is no good reason to Bud with led's unless the cool color and thought of saving money on electricity is worth growing less MJ for more money in start up costs.

 

[TheEnhancementSmoker]

There is simply no comparison from LED to HID lamps. End of thread.

 

[northernlightssmokn]

WOW!!! there are some real morons here now!! Closed minded fools!!! Are you people cashing in your bongs for crack pipes!!?? This is a study, MY study!! Not a gripe fest. Neithor your opinion or my opinion is fact. This site allows us to information share, NOT information slam!!

IA9 GO AWAY!!

Your input is onesided and hurtfull, Your posts leave no room for praise or rebuttle due to your agressive attitude

 

[SmokinMom]

Goodness...I hate when you folks get yer feathers all ruffeled up.

Go smoke a joint and be nice, or we'll have to close this thread.

 

[northernlightssmokn]

Did anyone see the new HT w/ Cheech and Chong on the cover? there is a big article in there by Cerantez himself claiming a good yield in a small box with the UFO.....

I see MANY praises and slams by "professional" people concerning these UFO's. This is a big breakthrough in LED's if the NEW UFO's with the 70/30 split do as good as he claims.

Any feedback?

 

[northernlightssmokn]

Close the thread???? Get rid of the people that make it an undesireable thread!

WHY would you close a thread over two peoples bad posts? In that case Smokn Mom why not close the whole site???!!!

This is a thread about 3 UFO brand LED's vrs 1 600w HPS only

Please reread the thread and iethor contribute or leave!!

 

[TheEnhancementSmoker]

Did anyone see the new HT w/ Cheech and Chong on the cover? there is a big article in there by Cerantez himself claiming a good yield in a small box with the UFO.....

I see MANY praises and slams by "professional" people concerning these UFO's. This is a big breakthrough in LED's if the NEW UFO's with the 70/30 split do as good as he claims.

Any feedback?

Nobody is saying that you can't use LED's. You can, just like CFL's. However, for the cost there is simply nothing remotely close to HIDs.

 

[SmokinMom]

lol...

as long as everyone behaves, no flaming, etc it will stay open. only if.

 

[WeedHopper]

Mellowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Outttttttt,,, or she is gonna spank you guys.:hubba:

 

[northernlightssmokn]

Ok....can we hold a conversation about the topic at hand? That would just swell!!

current situation: 3 plants in 5 gal. containers in a medium sized closet.
current lighting: 1 600w hps for ALL stages of growth/flower

Proposed change in situation: 4 plants in 3 1/2 gal. containers
proposed chane in lighting: 3 80w UFO's & 4 15w led mini UFO's

I already own the UFO's and am rebuilding the closet.

I am looking for feedback BOLTH positive and negative BUT ALL CONSTRUCTIVE!!!

My goals are less heat.
I have tested this and there TRUELY is NO heat build up beyond a few degrees. The 600w hps raises it 16 to 20 deg. This will eliminate the need to exaust out into the cold -20 deg outside and forming an ice clowd. Other pro's are that I can bring in fresh air from the house and not the rapidly chainging air from the outside (I live in Alaska) I also want to perfect a simple indoor grow situation apealing to renters that gives personal smoke, not for retail and will not be a fire hazzard by heat, lights or power overload.
Yes, I understand that there will be a longer flower time and smaller yield. those are side effects that can be debugged AFTER the grow environment is studied and perfected.
I would like MP to be part of that. I will be the wallet and you all be the brains.

I am going to ask that this thread be closed an I am going to start fresh.

My comparisom to to an atv or golf clubs was merely to show the passion for a hobby and give examples of how people will devote money to a hobby.

 

[SmokinMom]

Goodness...I hate when you folks get yer feathers all ruffeled up.

Go smoke a joint and be nice, or we'll have to close this thread.

:spit:

northernlightssmokin- Please take the report bad post button seriously. Reporting me is unnecessary and will get you nowhere.

If you're unable to get along with folks here then perhaps you should find yourself another mj group. I hear they are a dime a dozen.

 

[TheEnhancementSmoker]

I have tested this and there TRUELY is NO heat build up beyond a few degrees. The 600w hps raises it 16 to 20 deg. This will eliminate the need to exaust out into the cold -20 deg outside and forming an ice clowd. Other pro's are that I can bring in fresh air from the house and not the rapidly chainging air from the outside (I live in Alaska)

Wouldn't raising the temperature 16-20 degrees be desireable for where you are? You could circulate the lamp heat around your house with fans, and run the house heat less. That's what I do. My lamp is my heater.