LED UFO's.......

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To my surprise, there isnt much talk here about UFO's....I wonder why? Any feed back? :confused:
I am getting ready to use 3 UFO's and 4 15w LED bulbs to do a small closet grow of 3 or 4 Strawberry.
"IF" These lights are realy what they say they are, than that will be like having 3 400w hps systems shining down and 1 250w hps shining up through. Well I hope it works anyway.... If people are interested I will do some sort of grow journal from start to smoke.:joint:
 
huh? :confused: ... UFO's???

sorry man... can't comment on something i've never heard of before...

:postpicsworthless:
 
lol....A UFO is a round disk that holds 70/30 mix of 90 Red and blue spectrum 1w LED's. Check out hidhut.com and look for a UFO. They run about $550 and boast the production rate of a 400w Hps or 600w MH light but with no heat and less than 1 amp of current draw.
 
i have a friend that has grown with ufo's. he says the pros are the great output and the fact that they don't get hot allows u to put them really close to your plants. they're so bright you can't even look at them. the problem is they don't penetrate the canopy so you would need one above and several around the plant to be truly efficient but with the cost still around $550 it's really not cost effective. he has also built an led board and swears that this is the future of growing but presently too expensive. Also, I would have to wonder how the plant would grow if it was receiving light from all different directions especially if you have light shining up from the bottom, how will the plants react to that? either way you have a lot of money invested in this so i really hope it works for you. best of luck!
 
The reason is there isn't much to talk about, they under perform and are way over priced. Why spend way too much money to get the worst results out of all the lighting opionts ? You can get atop of the line 1000 watt HPS setup for the price of the UFO. The UFO is only marginally good for Veg'ing and still makes your plant stretchy, is no good for blooming and will take an extra couple weeks with poor results if you do decide to flower with it.

There is your answer, if you have more money than you know what to do with and think it's a neat idea go ahead but personally I can outperform one with three 40 watt Gro Lux bulbs during Veg.

any other questions ?
 
are you against experimenting with new ways or did you have a really bad experience when you were i child and get attacked by leds??

anyways, i agree with them stretching, i am vegging on leds right now(for experementation)and because they produce almost no heat

i have some stretch but that just meant it was time for me to play with lst, topping, supercropping, etc... lots of differant things to see what works for me and my leds

as for flowering im not sure if i'll attempt it with the leds yet
 
Dude, you should be way more mellow. Smoke a bowl and come back. I personally use CFL's because I dont have any HIDs laying around. 1st inside grow, but I have heard some good things about LEDs.We know the Pros swear by there HIDs and most the time they are correct about the outcome.
BUT, you could still chill a little, Little Brother.
 
Yeah, chill out, I just printed out the facts, the TRUTH, none of which was disputed. We've already had this discussion on this board with the Mods a few months back, you know the one, how you can say anything about anything but say something about LED lighting not being the next greatest thing and you need to chiil out or get a paragraph of advertising from the UFO website.

LED's don't work because thy are too directional and don't provide a bright enough light for penetration for the plant to grow. How are they going to overcome that problem ? LED's have been in use since 1972 and they haven't fixed the problem yet. I am always trying to learn new things so tell me more about what is new in the LED world ? What are they doing to fix the problems with LED's for grow lights ?

If you want to experiment fine, post what you are doing but when all you are doing is saing buy a UFO light and experiment, it's already been done and the results are in. They don't work very well. You can buy them wholesale for about $75 and sell for $600, that is the only good thing about them.
 
la9 said:
Yeah, chill out, I just printed out the facts, the TRUTH, none of which was disputed. We've already had this discussion on this board with the Mods a few months back, you know the one, how you can say anything about anything but say something about LED lighting not being the next greatest thing and you need to chiil out or get a paragraph of advertising from the UFO website.

LED's don't work because thy are too directional and don't provide a bright enough light for penetration for the plant to grow. How are they going to overcome that problem ? LED's have been in use since 1972 and they haven't fixed the problem yet. I am always trying to learn new things so tell me more about what is new in the LED world ? What are they doing to fix the problems with LED's for grow lights ?

If you want to experiment fine, post what you are doing but when all you are doing is saing buy a UFO light and experiment, it's already been done and the results are in. They don't work very well. You can buy them wholesale for about $75 and sell for $600, that is the only good thing about them.

wow, i guess you guys didnt catch the humor in my post, your very defensive:holysheep:

i just stated that i am experimenting with them, where would be today without trying new things?

thats all
 
IA9 ,You do understand Mellowwwwwwwwwwwwww Outttttt,right.
Ok, how bout this. "Man we all hate LED's, cant standem,dont usem" Hows that Bro, you feel better now? Dang man, it aint that bigga deal.
 
northernlightssmokn said:
lol....A UFO is a round disk that holds 70/30 mix of 90 Red and blue spectrum 1w LED's. Check out hidhut.com and look for a UFO. They run about $550 and boast the production rate of a 400w Hps or 600w MH light but with no heat and less than 1 amp of current draw.
By the way, in another thread somewhere in here. I read were the guy said he changed his 1 watts leds to 5 watts leds, and his plants were kicking butt. He only used them on top though, real close to the plants.:cool:
 
Yep, way defensive, never had any trouble with any other of my posts on this forum but I say my flourescent bulbs work better and all the sudden I have a bad attitude, no sense of humor and a bad childhood, go figure.


I don't hate LED's, if that is what you want to grow with fine, but don't try and convince others that they are equivalent to a 400 watt HPS when I can outgrow them with 3 Gro Lux tubes.

LED's do put out heat just the same as an HID bulb, I know it's a misconception, but at 25 watts they do need a heatsink and they are less efficient than HID. Same stuff over and over that isn't true about LED's.

So if you want to post intelligent talk about LED's or need some help with them that is all fine, I'll be more than happy to help anyone.

If you want to post all the false misconceptions about them then quit wasting everybodies time.
 
nevermind, with all your experience in led grows i will not question you

Sorry
 
DAMN!!!! COME ON!!! EVERYONE SMOKE A BOWL AND FLIPPN CHILL OUT!!!! First off I started this thread to start a conversation about LED's. Primarily the UFO brand. I am currently using 3 ufo's and a 600w hps on a few plants in a small room and the results are astronomicly different!! I see a distinct increase in bud sites. I do see a constant problem with drooping leaves though. Also, yes they are expensive BUT so is a four wheeler or set of golf clubs or a lift kit on a 4X4 or a new PS3 or whatever your passion is...
If you grow for money than use Hps. They are cheap to get and are tossable. I..and most others, I assume.. Are in to growing for much different reasons. I like the hobby, I LOVE the fact that I am not going to a "dealers" house and subjecting my self to all the eliments that come with that. Being robbed, shorted, burned, OR worst yet, what happens if your in a house to pck up a small bag for personal and the place is raided. They have bags of pot, pills, meth, scales, baggies piles of cash and GUNS in the same room as you. Now your in one bad situation!! Why put your self there if you can grow a few ounces every couple months in a spare closet. LED's eliminate alot of heat and use less power, they allow for a stealth grow. Even if the crop takes a few extra weeks to mature and has a slightly smaller yield, The one time investment may be well worth it to a closet grower. As a closet grower, I can see where these LED's MAY be invaluable to some one who grows to smoke only. My next grow will be done with 100% LED's and I am in no hurry to harvest, so its going to be fun to see how it turns out.
 
northernlightssmokn said:
My next grow will be done with 100% LED's and I am in no hurry to harvest, so its going to be fun to see how it turns out.

thank you, i couldnt agree more

although im not using a UFO, im using an led board
 
la9 said:
Yeah, chill out, I just printed out the facts, the TRUTH, none of which was disputed. We've already had this discussion on this board with the Mods a few months back, you know the one, how you can say anything about anything but say something about LED lighting not being the next greatest thing and you need to chiil out or get a paragraph of advertising from the UFO website.

LED's don't work because thy are too directional and don't provide a bright enough light for penetration for the plant to grow. How are they going to overcome that problem ? LED's have been in use since 1972 and they haven't fixed the problem yet. I am always trying to learn new things so tell me more about what is new in the LED world ? What are they doing to fix the problems with LED's for grow lights ?

If you want to experiment fine, post what you are doing but when all you are doing is saing buy a UFO light and experiment, it's already been done and the results are in. They don't work very well. You can buy them wholesale for about $75 and sell for $600, that is the only good thing about them.

I actually tried 3 different lighting setups for my grow box.
1) 150 watt cfl
2) (4) 60/40 red/blue 15 watt LED bulbs
3) (4) 24" T5 tubes

I needed something small, simple to use, low heat. I flower with a 400w HPS. So for me the winner was the...T5 tubes. Not cheap, but effective. The plants I grew with the Leds took longer, but had the shortest internodal spacing. The CFL did fine, but the T5 was noticably better.
 
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