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[Joe420Camel]

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I use the list/chart Beemer posted for when I vape.


I used [SEE below] for my decarb plan
link: http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/


my cap dosage learning curve:
somewhere between 2-5 caps for me

4 was fun! (just a hint of jittery)
2 was pleasant but not "high" enough

haven't tried 5 or 3 yet

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[Keef]

It gets U high too ! Got my new grow boxes drilled out all that's left is to build the spray manifold -- take about 5 minutes and it'll be time move my veg. !-- we fixin to grow some weed now ! 3 boxes with 35 grow spots each ! They gonna be full of clones by the time I go to bed tonight ! Growing outside ?-- Good Times ?-- I remember the year of stumps -- I don't want to talk about it !-- rippers got me one day before harvest ! Love the pics Rose !

 

[bozzo420]

see if I have it right. Decarbing is "curing" right? someone said that hanging pot on the stem for long periods , naturally decarbs it. With the tobacco I grew had to be cured before smoking. it is really harsh if you smoke it right away. So I built what they call it a kiln. It is a old stand up freezer with a crock pot in the bottom . You put the tobacco in and keep it at 120 degrees for a week. Otherwise you let it hang for a year. It cures naturally in a year.The crock pot has water in it and it keeps it at 90 to 100% humidity . So If I hang buds in it for a week. is that decarbing it? just Bozzo thinking......

 

[Hippie420]

Damned if I won't try it at least on a few buds, Bozzo! You might have stumbled onto something there.

Keef, I use the 000 sized caps. You'd have to be Linda Lovelace to swallow anything bigger. I always keep a glass of coke or water close. When one of those babies hang up in your throat, it'll put the hurt on ya.

 

[Rosebud]

see if I have it right. Decarbing is "curing" right? someone said that hanging pot on the stem for long periods , naturally decarbs it. With the tobacco I grew had to be cured before smoking. it is really harsh if you smoke it right away. So I built what they call it a kiln. It is a old stand up freezer with a crock pot in the bottom . You put the tobacco in and keep it at 120 degrees for a week. Otherwise you let it hang for a year. It cures naturally in a year.The crock pot has water in it and it keeps it at 90 to 100% humidity . So If I hang buds in it for a week. is that decarbing it? just Bozzo thinking......

bozzo my understanding of decarbing is what we do when we smoke it.. fire decarbs. But if it is going in your tummy you need to decarb first to change the THA (acids) to THC. You can CURE and do a three month cure in jars but if you are going to eat it then you have to decarb. They are two different things.

 

[Keef]

Rose Nose !-- Got kicked out my own grow room !-- All done with the grow boxes !-- Later when SHE gets out my way I 'll take the freshcuts and be done ! Take my time on my last 2 Bloom boxes won't need them for 2 weeks ! RO system is holding me up !-- had 10 gallon jugs full but now gotta refill them 2 more times at 15 minutes a gallon !-- gotta get me a holding tank !

 

[bozzo420]

ok thanks rose.

 

[Kraven]

Wow, great info Beemer :48:
Thanks

 

[Kraven]

All great info from all you MP artists, I was so excited about what beemer posted I missed this whole page :48:

 

[WeedHopper]

I also begain with that chart. For me and the moisture content of the Weed i am using,,,,, i had to use 270 for 30 mins. The moisture content of your Weed makes a difference on Temps and Drying times to Decarb without loosing potentcy. Also how much your weed is ground makes a difference. Keef decarbs quicker when baking.

 

[Keef]

O.K. let's get kinky !- somebody 'splain isomerization ! and how to do it !

 

[Keef]

Hopper I haven't been over to skunk pharm in awhile they got a pic of an e-cig liquid homogenizer yet ?

 

[umbra]

Hi Keef, I hope you don't mind if I try to explain isomerization. basicaaly you are taking molecules that are similar in structure and converting them to Delta 9. It is done by heating and adding an acid to the extract. It is only effective with low grade, low thc cannabis. There is more than 1 compound in cannabis. They have slightly different structural formulas. They are described by their elemental positions of the molecules. I only mention this because this is how the description part woks. And again, I am not an organic chemist, but with that said...starting with cannabidiol, by adding heat we end up with
delta 9 -3,4-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol [alpha] CHCl3 and by adding heat the molecule becomes Delta 8 - 3,4- trans- tetrahydrocannabinol [alpha] EtOH.
The changes that occur are minor, the first reaction forms a third ring by attaching the oxygen at 1' to the carbon at 8. The 2nd reaction is just shifting of 1 double bond from the 1,2 position to the 6,1 position. Once refluxed for 2 hrs then washed with 5% bicarbonate of soda solution. Then separated.

 

[Kraven]

Hi Keef, I hope you don't mind if I try to explain isomerization. basicaaly you are taking molecules that are similar in structure and converting them to Delta 9. It is done by heating and adding an acid to the extract. It is only effective with low grade, low thc cannabis. There is more than 1 compound in cannabis. They have slightly different structural formulas. They are described by their elemental positions of the molecules. I only mention this because this is how the description part woks. And again, I am not an organic chemist, but with that said...starting with cannabidiol, by adding heat we end up with
delta 9 -3,4-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol [alpha] CHCl3 and by adding heat the molecule becomes Delta 8 - 3,4- trans- tetrahydrocannabinol [alpha] EtOH.
The changes that occur are minor, the first reaction forms a third ring by attaching the oxygen at 1' to the carbon at 8. The 2nd reaction is just shifting of 1 double bond from the 1,2 position to the 6,1 position. Once refluxed for 2 hrs then washed with 5% bicarbonate of soda solution. Then separated.

:yeahthat:

 

[umbra]

take a bunch of oil add 10 times the volume with ethyl alcohol. add 1 drop of sulphuric acid per gram of oil, 1 drop at a time. boil for 2 hrs. let it cool. add an equal volume of water and 1/2 volume of ether. shake vigorously. the water and ether will separate. wash the ether layer with bicarbonate of soda. separate water and ether again. let evaporate.

 

[yooper420]

Understand a little about the chemistry, probably enough to get myself in trouble. On another note, my wife came through fine, sounded in good spirits when I just talked to her. She should be out of the hospital by the weekend, not home though. Wanna thank everyone for their concern and well wishes.

 

[Keef]

Thank U Brother Umbra !-- So unless U working with something like kilos of brickweed it is not worth the effort !-- trying to figure out How U can do that without pickle jars and 5 gallon buckets ! I got the battery acid !-- No microwave cooking ?-- that reminds me !-- microwave decarbing ?

 

[umbra]

microwave decarb problem is temp stabilization and time duration. No iso oil is not worth the effort unless swag. there is microwave distillation. however, it is professional item and not cheap. But Grey Wolf might be able to adapt something. You might ask next time you're at skunkpharm.

 

[umbra]

here is what I am talking about
http://www.labcompare.com/1221-Muff...NEOS-Microwave-Extraction-System/?ppim=4596_0

 

[Keef]

Umbra - I love when U talk all scientific and stuff !-- I already knew but the method I was taught is street chemistry !-- I'm like -- that far from the Mexican border !-- I feel a responsibility to provide a basic THC e-cig liquid for the masses made from mex. Kilos at a reasonable price !-- I have to build a market after the law changes and most have never had anything but brickweed !-- Peeps be loving them some E-cig liquid if they ever try it ! Then and only then does the premium liquid show up !