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[Kraven]

Morning Rose, I'm still on the mend but better than yesterday, I told my wife in a weak and scratchy voice that I loved her.....it made my day.

VA called, post op follow up appt. is next Monday, hopefully they will have the biopsy results back then. It will be a good opportunity to tell the dude just how much he hurt me, "pinches a little my ***"....lol it hurts like all get out for a day then the swelling takes its place and good luck breathing / swallowing..... Today is much better but boy howdy fri/sat/sun was an ugly set of days. Still have a long way to go healing wise, but today is a good day

 

[Rosebud]

DD, you guys have broad mites? it took me 7 years to get those... i don't think they are native here, well, now the are...shoot. They are worse then spidermites by about a million.

Kraven the whole thing sounds terrible. I am glad that weekend is behind you and you are only going up from here. Sounds horrible. Glad you can speak even if a bit horsey.

 

[Keef]

Rose-- D.D. is sleeping in !--- Spidermites we can deal with !-- We got an unexpected bug too !---Root Aphids !--- They can't survive on my exposed roots getting blasted from the sprayers !--- They moved in the space between the one inch thick foam collars and the stems !-- The plants began to loose vigor and got wilty !---When We took one out the foam collar we found they had borrowed into the stem killing the plant.- Bastids ! --She got another order of nematodes on the way just in case !--

 

[WeedHopper]

I had some Knot root nematodes once in some flower pots. Nasty little basterds.

 

[Rosebud]

Well, i did 10 min on the bike and 10 min of the piano with Howard the poodle crying they whole time with his head on my leg.. So much for physical therapy...I can't believe him He howls for the first 4 minutes that weeps with every note played.. I want to crawl in the dishwasher now.

 

[Kraven]

I guess I'm really finicky about what goes in my garden, the o'l hippy gave me three rules that i pretty much live by....
1. if it goes outside, it never goes back in a flower or veg room.
2. if its a cut / clone I did not make from my garden then it get quarantined till I'm 100% sure its safe to enter my garden, mostly I will grow it out some and take my own cuts then trash the original.
3. if it comes from outside my system and not from a garden i know and trust, then it is quarantined period.

So far so good, never had any bugs....not saying I wont but I try very hard. I see friends grows all the time that just get wiped out from not being careful....they loose things that are very hard to get back if you can even get it back.

 

[Rosebud]

I am glad you are careful Karven. i think i will be now.

 

[Kraven]

Rose i was not aiming that in your direction, it pains me everytime i see this happen, its horrible for the grower and it sets you back years sometimes, Rose I wish i could snap my fingers and make them go away....

 

[Kraven]

My over carefulness comes from fear of loss, not from anything else, simply the fear of having to completely breakdown and then restart.

Glad you got some PT in this am, poor fellow, I'm sure your playing is wonderful, he is just singing along

 

[Kraven]

Rose where did they come from, what did you introduce to your grow that might have been a carrier ?

 

[Rosebud]

Clones from cc. A very nice guy that had no idea he was passing on broad mites. I have received clones from him before and they were great. my bad.

 

[Keef]

At least ya'll get a killing frost or snow !--I have Serrano pepper plants and some herbs that didn 't die over the winter and are coming back strong !--Have to pull them up so my Jalapeño will have room to grow !--So the bugs around never died either !--- D.D. been into these beneficial bugs !-- They did kill the root aphids !-- Next time the spidermites show up there will be predatory mites waiting for them !--

 

[Rosebud]

I did use beneficials Keef, broad mites are like nothing i have ever seen. I am looking at each leaf of a nurse larry clone I really want to save.. I will ice water again today. There are still a couple of eggs i have to get.

 

[Kraven]

Clones from cc. A very nice guy that had no idea he was passing on broad mites. I have received clones from him before and they were great. my bad.

Wow that's sorta surprising, sadly it can happen to the best of us. I have been really really lucky so far. You can kill them, your not gonna like how you have to do it, but a cut can then be saved and you will just have to start over. I'm not the bug guy, but we both know some. If your gonna have to rinse and repeat then you may as well kill them dead and save a cut of what you have, just my 2 cents. I just don't know an organic way to eradicate them Rose.

 

[Keef]

Kraven the fear of loosing something and not know why would be a nightmare !--- I'm down to 4 sickly Widow cuts !--- We had to take the top of some plants and try to rerooted them !--
I knew I was gonna chase tetras and I had to be able to clone my a** off cause they hard to clone !-- I never made a tetra before and the real objective is the knowledge !-- I have to wait and confirm under a microscope but they tetras !--- Then I breed a tetra (4n) male to a normal (2n) female ---I treat those (3n) triploid seed with Zombie Juice and there will my (6n)Green Grail male !--- Any normal (2n) plant bred to him will produce (4n) tetraploid seed !

 

[Keef]

Is organic so important that U willing lose everything !--We use as little chemicals as we have to but I'll use D.D.T. if I have to !---This grow is for me not the bugs !-

 

[Rosebud]

Not for patients... I have already over sprayed but those plants are gone. all i have now is my one nurse larry clone, tiny baby and a whole bunch of harelquin clones that I am hand killing if possible. I may go in with a q tip and get um.. I really wish i had a microscope.

 

[yarddog]

Even if you used a straight up poison, once you took a clone from it later, couldn't you be just as organic as ever?

 

[Kraven]

Yes YD that's the way I have seen it done successfully, you almost kill the plant to kill the bugs, take a clone and then once you know that clone is ok, take another cut from that clone and when it roots throw away the first cut, now you should have a plant that is OK to grow out and give to patients. It will take a month or so to get both through the process, but you won't loose the cut and you kill the bugs.

Thats the only way I have ever heard of it being done and not losing genetics's. Rose might get them all and I hope she does, because it only takes one to restart the whole pickle, Rose that being said I have NL beans that I was going to pop this spring I can shoot your way if you would like, I can always get a cut back from you when I am ready.

 

[Kraven]

A little giggle goes a long way on days like this