Grow Room Build

[The Hemp Goddess]

No first time with hydro I got to keep it to a plant with 4' max height. I figure. I got 8' ceiling. I will see when I get there i guess . In your sig box I looked at your ww grow it looked like they were right at 4'. Could I LST to the sides on taller strains? I figure with that small area light penetration will be a problem. I may not even get 6 plants to flower my first go at this.

A plant that is 4' tall is most likely going to take up at least 3-4 sq ft. You will not have any room to lst anything. Your best bet in that little space is to sog. Light penetration has nothing to do with the size of your space, but rather with they type and wattage of the light you are using.

 

[-C@jun-]

Finished the veg room except for the table had to modify it for the tray. It wasn't what i was expecting. Got 3 ladies going in it already. Just went to full strength nutes saturday(yesterday). One in middle 15 days old some sort of purple. Left 13 days old. Right 12 days old. Those came out of some stuff the guys called "ice".

 

[DonJones]

c@jun-,

Maybe you need to ask yourself why you keep having to repeat yourself. Did it ever occur to you that the reason everyone is "nit picking" is simply because you're wrong and refusing to listen? Personally, I don't have time to keep repeating things so I'll try once and it you don't like what I say, then just ignore it. It is a waste of your time to try argue with me because I won't play that game any more.

First of all CO2 is not only a waste of time unless EVERYTHING else is totally dialed in, but is is also VERY DANGEROUS in an area that shares any air flow with occupied areas, like yours obviously does since you have a floor vent in the veg room. Plus because it needs to be a sealed area, it will exponentially complicate you heating issues.

Yes your sizes are just a** backwards --why didn't you just close off the floor vent?

No you can't solve the too small flowering room by LST or any other technique that spreads the plant out wider. Your height is NOT what people are warning you about. It is the area/floor space that each plant requires is way more than what you are figuring on.

Very few HID lighting systems will let you run different sized bulbs. Some of the newer electronic/digital ones will let you switch between MH and HPS. I haven't seen every thing by a long shot but I've never seen one where you can switch wattages.

Trying to run too much lighting too small of an area will cause you a lot of heating problems.

You talked about removing the beam and hanging from the ceiling -- if you don't have the ceiling closed off you are going to have light leakage issues and it you do, why would you put a beam across the room instead of just suspending your lights on some adjustable arrangement like ropes and pulleys? You are going to have to be adjusting the height of the lights as the plants grow any way. The modern lights,or any remote ballasted one for that matter, are light enough to suspend them from a long 1/8" inch or bigger screw hook or eye screw threaded through the sheeting and into the framing behind it. If the ceiling joist doesn't line up with where you need your light to hang you can simply nail 1'' or thicker lumber across between the two adjoining joists and screw the hooks into that. I have 2" x 2" lumber nailed full length of my rooms because my joists run cross ways of the room and don't line up with where I need the lights to hang.

Good luck man, with your attitude you will need it and you are in for a heck of a learning experience. But I remember when I was young, stupid and thought I knew it all and always wanted to argue with the advice I received after I asked for it. This is not the place to ask questions if you are not willing to listen to the answers!

I spent months seeking advice and sometimes clarification if I didn't understand the advice when I was laying out and building my grow rooms, both from the forum and from experienced growers locally who could actually come see what I had to work with and I'm still not real happy with my setup but I haven't found anyone that can tell me how to improve it within the constraints that I'm stuck with, EXCEPT I know I need to move the mirrors out of my flower room just as soon as I can figure out where to put them.

Good luck with your operation and good smoking.

 

[-C@jun-]

I'm through argueing with you old mother*******. My flower room is still under construction. Thats what I keep repeating. Its not like it is finished and i have plants in there. I took the beam out. My temp wall goes to the ceiling. I think it is a inferior complex you old people have. I have been taking account everything these ppl are saying I just haven't done anything to update. My flower room will be increased. Just haven't got that far. I bought the 600w HPS last night. See i didn't go with the 1000w like originally wanted. See you don't know **** because I haven't posted anything new yet and will not untill I get there. I have talked to many growers in Texas and they get by with a plant per square foot with a 3gal depth. Now there flowering when it reaches 12".

It isn't that hard to grow a damn weed!
Yes it is a WEED and needs to be noticed as one a harmless plant that doesn't need to be illegal.

 

[meds4me]

C@JUN: Being rude here will only get you banned. We ALL have been trying to give you the "best " info we can over the "NET".
The purpose here is to GROW youre own period. Unless you are willing to "listen" to some common sense then its ALL ON YOU ~ Peace and best of Luck in youre venture ~

 

[-C@jun-]

C@JUN: Being rude here will only get you banned. We ALL have been trying to give you the "best " info we can over the "NET".
The purpose here is to GROW youre own period. Unless you are willing to "listen" to some common sense then its ALL ON YOU ~ Peace and best of Luck in youre venture ~

Being rude is to keep attacking the same issue that hasn't been contested. I posted a pic of my VEG room "finished" not flower room. Constructive criticism would of been towards my veg room. Not attacking a mutual issue my flower room. I have listened to the "common sense" I went with the 600w instead of 1000w. I took out the beam that was 2' from ceiling to go directly from ceiling. I have even posted that I did. You are telling me to "listen"(read) where nobody else is reading and I have this ***hole like don beating around the mutual issue. My first post I posted what I had and what I needed with some pics of where I was at. Clear as day. I put I needed fans. The first post after that by hemp godess was I don't see anything here about ventalation. No **** I just posted that I needed fans and seeing that I still needed to purchase items would put that this was a first and that I was going along with plans as I recieved items.

 

[meds4me]

C@JUN; this will be my last comment as again "We of the MP" are here to help and jumpin the gun to "bite back" isnt constructive. We all are stoner's and over looking a particulair line or post is easily over looked.
Again Calling a member a name is not allowed. Don and Myself as well as others have spent a fair amount of time to help you and yet you wish to call people names.....
Again Best of Luck in youre venture and "Listening and understanding " are what its all about. ~ Peace

 

[-C@jun-]

No you nor Don haven't spent any time what so ever.

Don was picking at a dead issue.

"nit picking"

You meds were just all on his nuts.

Keep it your last comment! Don't post in my thread if you don't have anything nice to say and I will not be so quick to jump and bite.

*EDIT*
Remember this site is only as strong as its members. I understand some of you with 1000's of threads and posts have to repeat yourself alot. Thats the name of this game. More and more people are picking up growing then paying outrageous street costs for a decent bag of pot. Thats what you should be aiming for. The more people pick it up closer to being legal. The world wide web is the only place for information. Don't get me wrong there are some questions that deserve to rem the writer. This is not one of those threads. There is just certain details i've overlooked and am in the process of working out and have posted clearly on previous page. Maybe the posters of THIS thread could of handled replies with a little more finesse. Not your gonna mess everything up why did you make your veg room so big opposed to the flower room so small. I got replies like that instead of: "You should make that flower room bigger(with reason) or "With a 1000w you are going to have serious heat issues i would SUGGEST a 400w for that area unless you make it larger."

Come on I deserved that I didn't come in here like a complete idiot.

 

[The Effen Gee]

Its like this:

If you feel like your room is good enough, then this hobby is just tria land error from that point on.

Plug it in, see what happens.

BTW, DonJones....you need to re-evaluate the need of CO2 in an even semi sealed environment.
If the envo is completely sealed, you need supplimental CO@ or your plants will stretch like its nobodys biz.

You have a whole two weeks of flower to trim and adjust your plants as needed. Go with it and see whathappens.

...and as far as folks getting stuck in their ways...marijuana growing is not immune from the basic shortcomings of human behavior, physically and emotionally.
I like to be at the tip of the spear, others find a system, setup or process that works for them and often never deviate or even look into the new information being presented regularly.

Good luck and don't let the MP gang gang up on you.

 

[meds4me]

No one here is trying to "Gang up on you" but rather give you oue experience...
Oh by the way I still have the 5 PM's on this issue concerning putting youre room together. So saying "You meds were just all on his nuts" is not only rude by wrong as well. ~

 

[-C@jun-]

Its like this:

If you feel like your room is good enough, then this hobby is just tria land error from that point on.

Plug it in, see what happens.

BTW, DonJones....you need to re-evaluate the need of CO2 in an even semi sealed environment.
If the envo is completely sealed, you need supplimental CO@ or your plants will stretch like its nobodys biz.

You have a whole two weeks of flower to trim and adjust your plants as needed. Go with it and see whathappens.

...and as far as folks getting stuck in their ways...marijuana growing is not immune from the basic shortcomings of human behavior, physically and emotionally.
I like to be at the tip of the spear, others find a system, setup or process that works for them and often never deviate or even look into the new information being presented regularly.

Good luck and don't let the MP gang gang up on you.

This needs to be framed! Plug and Play is what i'm about.

I didn't realize that was you meds. You of everyone else should of known my set up has changed then. That should of told you I was taking in account the advice I had recieved . I'm disappointed you took dons side on a dead subject. PEACE

 

[meds4me]

"Don't post in my thread if you don't have anything nice to say and I will not be so quick to jump and bite."
Thats youre problem as this is an open forum and NONE of us own anything...
Oh and if you quit biting you might get over that forest you have on youre shoulder !

 

[-C@jun-]

"Don't post in my thread if you don't have anything nice to say and I will not be so quick to jump and bite."
Thats youre problem as this is an open forum and NONE of us own anything...
Oh and if you quit biting you might get over that forest you have on youre shoulder !

I hope I get a forest in my back room. I don't know about my shoulder. If they were on my shoulder I would harvest them too.

 

[-C@jun-]

Finished the flower room except for c02 and to stick up one piece of mylar. What I have here is a 6'x3.5' space. 600w lumitek electronic ballast with yield master air cooled hood. I have two 250cfm inline duct fans. One exhausting through hood out room and one as a intake. I will have a stand fan in corner. My tub is 3'x2' 35gals deep. Took about 80L of hydroton. Velcro for door to secure panda film. I have a little light leaking for now will put a 2x4 on left side of door to stop leak. The velcro is junk from home depot.

What am I missing besides some foliage?

 

[zem]

place both fans as exhaust, make holes for passive intake, you'll be doubling the venting efficiency than with placing one foe intake and anothe for exhaust,,,

 

[-C@jun-]

make holes for passive intake

I have my veg area right next to it so it needs to be light tight. I ran it today for about 3 hours temps stayed at 78F /21 22 RH thats with no fan in corner. I understand the thing about venting as much as i am bringing in but it still would circulate hot air would rise where I have exhaust at top. The intake is sucking air in from the bottom. Cool air would stay at bottom where old hot stagnant air is sucked out through hood. I guess anyway. Any thoughts?

 

[zem]

curved duct would do, a fan doesnt hide the growroom, you can still see from a hole with a fan you would need curved duct anyway.

 

[-C@jun-]

As you can see I curved all the flex pipe and on the outside of the walls I have 90 flex connectors. Yes there is a little light leakage reflecting down tubes but not nearly enough. For the passive intake should I go with 6" or 4". Or could I go with tubing and go smaller? I like the idea more exhaust but would like to hear a second opinion.

 

[zem]

ye i agree with hearing several opinions before deciding on something i think you would need the intake hole as big as the 2 exhausts together if possible or make 2 holes each as big as exhaust. you would lose some fan power by reducing holes and sharp curves, if 1 fan is enough maye go with that and keep the other as backup cuz using it as intake would be almost useless with an exhaust there, hope this helps

 

[-C@jun-]

hope this helps

YES and is greatly appreciated!