Feds launch massive pot sting

[FruityBud]

Here is another interesting read on this case.

Secret raids not too secret
hxxp://tinyurl.com/59f73l

 

[snuggles]

We are the problem. We have all these polls and all these numbers thrown at us. Then why isn't MM or MJ for that matter legal in the Feds eyes? Cause we talk and we do polls but WE DON'T VOTE. We have no one to blame except ourselves IMO. Don't just read and talk VOTE.

 

[The Effen Gee]

"Medical marijuana dispensaries and 215 patients would not be targeted by the investigation, Schadler said. The Humboldt Cooperative, a medical marijuana dispensary in Arcata, said Tuesday evening that federal agents had not interfered with business."


...and the lord said "Let there be light"...

...and he saw that it was good...blah blah.

 

[Bleek187]

yea ... i dont live in cali... in my state if you have it, grow it, sell it or buy it its ilegal.. so theres no dif in growing it to smoke it and growing it to sell it..

Question... is it infact legal in cali now? or what.... cuz i thought you could only grow or have it in cali if you had a perscription for it??

 

[Ettesun]

.. Oh but you are SO wrong. If you grow for your own needs, or are a "care giver" for medical patiants, you ARE legal in the eyes of California and a dozen other states.
And California and another dozen states will defend your right, too...
If you sell and fail to pay taxes on that income, you are a "criminal" in the eyes of both the feds AND the state.. . Over your "legal limit'.. criminal. Useing the USPS to mail drugs... "criminal"..


"IF"... those are the only ones getting busted, so be it....

You are so right Hick. I was just going to say the exact same thing!
And I will add this...
Several people who are friends and I have been left alone by the local sheriff's department and/or city police because we are legal. That's 99 inside OR 25 outside in Humboldt. It's only the big grows out on BLM land... federal land and private huge grows that are getting popped here. They are leaving home growers alone... But I'd better check the newspapers today to make sure.

People here are generally thankful that this industry is keeping our county alive after all the saw mills have closed.
They will ask for your license and that's it. If you are OVER the limit, they will usually let you pick the ones you want to keep...
It's the damn federal government that is after big growers, not our local law enforcement. They know where the money comes from in this county and basically some of the sheriff's deputies will do what they can to protect legal growers and small family grows. This I know for a fact... Once in a while you'll find decent officers... once in a while...
I've seen it done many many times...
And I was in Arcata Tuesday too. What a coincidence, T.C. :giggle:
eace:

 

[Ettesun]

yea ... i dont live in cali... in my state if you have it, grow it, sell it or buy it its ilegal.. so theres no dif in growing it to smoke it and growing it to sell it..

Question... is it infact legal in cali now? or what.... cuz i thought you could only grow or have it in cali if you had a perscription for it??

Here you do need a doctor's license to grow legally. There are no other ways around it at this point. Either a caregiver and/or a patient.
eace:

 

[Ettesun]

"Medical marijuana dispensaries and 215 patients would not be targeted by the investigation, Schadler said. The Humboldt Cooperative, a medical marijuana dispensary in Arcata, said Tuesday evening that federal agents had not interfered with business."


...and the lord said "Let there be light"...

...and he saw that it was good...blah blah.

So glad about that! Because I was there with a friend... Everything was cool. Even dropped off a sample. You can't find any place more hip that Humboldt! :giggle:
eace: There's no place like home... there's no place like home...

 

[KGB30]

You are so right Hick. I was just going to say the exact same thing!
And I will add this...
Several people who are friends and I have been left alone by the local sheriff's department and/or city police because we are legal. That's 99 inside OR 25 outside in Humboldt. It's only the big grows out on BLM land... federal land and private huge grows that are getting popped here. They are leaving home growers alone... But I'd better check the newspapers today to make sure.

People here are generally thankful that this industry is keeping our county alive after all the saw mills have closed.
They will ask for your license and that's it. If you are OVER the limit, they will usually let you pick the ones you want to keep...
It's the damn federal government that is after big growers, not our local law enforcement. They know where the money comes from in this county and basically some of the sheriff's deputies will do what they can to protect legal growers and small family grows. This I know for a fact... Once in a while you'll find decent officers... once in a while...
I've seen it done many many times...
And I was in Arcata Tuesday too. What a coincidence, T.C. :giggle:
eace:

Question how do you know the leos won't touch us patients.

I agree with both of you but I have had hands on exsprearience with leos. I was a armed security 7 1/2 years who assisted them & seen a lot of crapola. When I was a teenager I seen what they can do with the shining metal badge.

 

[snuggles]

Hey Ettesun I for one would love to hear more. I was reading how Humboldt turned around it's whole economy with MJ. If you feel like sharing I would be all ears

 

[Ettesun]

Question how do you know the leos won't touch us patients.

I agree with both of you but I have had hands on exsprearience with leos. I was a armed security 7 1/2 years who assisted them & seen a lot of crapola. When I was a teenager I seen what they can do with the shining metal badge.

:holysheep:
They used to raise hell in the seventies and eighties and part of the nineties. But hey, were in a new decade and things have changed.
Just depends on whre you are and the laws in your area. It's a new world.
Turn the page to the new chapter. We don't have to live the paranoid gorilla gardening any longer unless your above and beyond the laws. I personally got tired of hiding from helicopters and armed kids chopping my plants. It is B.S. But the laws are there for a reason. Protection local growers!!!
There are too many illegal immigrants coming in here raping out forests and dumping diesel and poisonous chemicals in our creeks and rivers and they all use weapons. They've only arrested one that I know of and shot and killed one who fired on the 'force.' We don't need a bunch of foreigners in here ruining our peaceful existence. I'm all for wiping out the illegals. They have no business ruining California parks and public lands. That is a big NO NO.
If I can't grow in the county parks, neither can foreigners... :giggle:
No offense. I have a friend married to an illegal. I wish her and hubby the best of luck, but they need to straighten this political b.s. out a bit...
Why can't we just all get along???
eace: as a sixties and seventies girl I'm still carrying John Lennon's Laws.
God Rest that Wonderful Angel's soul.

 

[nikimadritista]

You sound like a victim of government propaganda thinking that illegal immigrants
are responsible for all your misfortune...
You should be thankful to Mexicans for spreading MJ around the US, and maybe
realize those feds are there to protect the real polluters and natures' enemies - those CEOs of corporate america...
If you think the feds and laws are protecting us growers you must be smoking something pretty heavy...
and those laws change quickly... Just wait till this next Bush takes office...
People shouldn't be illegal anywhere...
Just my opinion...
Grow on..

 

[shyguy100]

man I hate police... Government... Politicians... Judges... Lawyers...
Legalized mafia those people are...
time to wake up it is...
May the force be with you...

yea, you can hate em, and yea, there corrupt, but think about it, life would suck with out them.

 

[The Effen Gee]

There is a serious problem with organized crime (mexican or otherwise) clear cutting entire hillsides, polluting, shooting guns, and littering in MY FORESTS!!

this is a serious problem as far as I am concerned.

Lock those gangster wannabes in jail with the rest of their kind.

Leave the growing to the pros and find another get rich quick scheme.



Sick of it.

 

[KGB30]

:holysheep:
They used to raise hell in the seventies and eighties and part of the nineties. But hey, were in a new decade and things have changed.
Just depends on whre you are and the laws in your area. It's a new world.
Turn the page to the new chapter. We don't have to live the paranoid gorilla gardening any longer unless your above and beyond the laws. I personally got tired of hiding from helicopters and armed kids chopping my plants. It is B.S. But the laws are there for a reason. Protection local growers!!!
There are too many illegal immigrants coming in here raping out forests and dumping diesel and poisonous chemicals in our creeks and rivers and they all use weapons. They've only arrested one that I know of and shot and killed one who fired on the 'force.' We don't need a bunch of foreigners in here ruining our peaceful existence. I'm all for wiping out the illegals. They have no business ruining California parks and public lands. That is a big NO NO.
If I can't grow in the county parks, neither can foreigners... :giggle:
No offense. I have a friend married to an illegal. I wish her and hubby the best of luck, but they need to straighten this political b.s. out a bit...
Why can't we just all get along???
eace: as a sixties and seventies girl I'm still carrying John Lennon's Laws.
God Rest that Wonderful Angel's soul.

Thanks for explaining your self I appreciate it. If drugs were all legalized there would me no gangs or mobs to live on profits or farmers in Afgan giving up there daughters just to pay there det. The US needs to look at the Netherlands policy too drugs & prostitution.

 

[Ettesun]

You sound like a victim of government propaganda thinking that illegal immigrants are responsible for all your misfortune...
You should be thankful to Mexicans for spreading MJ around the US, and maybe
realize those feds are there to protect the real polluters and natures' enemies - those CEOs of corporate america...
If you think the feds and laws are protecting us growers you must be smoking something pretty heavy...
and those laws change quickly... Just wait till this next Bush takes office...
People shouldn't be illegal anywhere...
Just my opinion...
Grow on..

:chillpill: Maybe you should back-track and read what I wrote. You are trying to pull the infamous race card on me and that is not fair.
I'm talking about people who are poisoning our creeks and rivers and raping the land.
Hispanics are the hardest working people I know and believe me I've worked side by side with many in sawmills through the years. Great friends, caring people...
I am talking about the poor guys and gals (and they are mostly illegals) who work for almost nothing guarding gardens for huge growers... they are being taken advantage of. They are being shot because they carry weapons usually. And the FEDS are doing it! It is very very sad. Please pay attention to what I wrote before slamming me. I have several close friends from Mexico, some legal, some not... so don't blow your horn at me, please. I meant no offense to anyone. Relax and think about it.
And the media here is the most liberal you'll find almost anywhere... I know this because I am with the media... Don't blame the media here. There is only one Right Wing newspaper and even they are sympathetic to growers... But our job is to report the news and be unbiased...
Legal grows are photographed in the newspapers often... and no names are given. We are proud of our area. People here know which side their bread is buttered on... Our biggest crop here, and what keeps Northern California afloat, is its MJ industry... Cool down and think before you react.

eace:

 

[KGB30]

:chillpill: Maybe you should back-track and read what I wrote. You are trying to pull the infamous race card on me and that is not fair.
I'm talking about people who are poisoning our creeks and rivers and raping the land.
Hispanics are the hardest working people I know and believe me I've worked side by side with many in sawmills through the years. Great friends, caring people...
I am talking about the poor guys and gals (and they are mostly illegals) who work for almost nothing guarding gardens for huge growers... they are being taken advantage of. They are being shot because they carry weapons usually. And the FEDS are doing it! It is very very sad. Please pay attention to what I wrote before slamming me. I have several close friends from Mexico, some legal, some not... so don't blow your horn at me, please. I meant no offense to anyone. Relax and think about it.
And the media here is the most liberal you'll find almost anywhere... I know this because I am with the media... Don't blame the media here. There is only one Right Wing newspaper and even they are sympathetic to growers... But our job is to report the news and be unbiased...
Legal grows are photographed in the newspapers often... and no names are given. We are proud of our area. People here know which side their bread is buttered on... Our biggest crop here, and what keeps Northern California afloat, is its MJ industry... Cool down and think before you react.

eace:

I haven't anone on MP that is racist or anything else & you are not Racist.

 

[Hick]

:chillpill: Maybe you should back-track and read what I wrote. You are trying to pull the infamous race card on me and that is not fair.
I'm talking about people who are poisoning our creeks and rivers and raping the land.
Hispanics are the hardest working people I know and believe me I've worked side by side with many in sawmills through the years. Great friends, caring people...
I am talking about the poor guys and gals (and they are mostly illegals) who work for almost nothing guarding gardens for huge growers... they are being taken advantage of. They are being shot because they carry weapons usually. And the FEDS are doing it! It is very very sad. Please pay attention to what I wrote before slamming me. I have several close friends from Mexico, some legal, some not... so don't blow your horn at me, please. I meant no offense to anyone. Relax and think about it.
And the media here is the most liberal you'll find almost anywhere... I know this because I am with the media... Don't blame the media here. There is only one Right Wing newspaper and even they are sympathetic to growers... But our job is to report the news and be unbiased...
Legal grows are photographed in the newspapers often... and no names are given. We are proud of our area. People here know which side their bread is buttered on... Our biggest crop here, and what keeps Northern California afloat, is its MJ industry... Cool down and think before you react.

eace:

Tell me Ett', would it be any different, in your eyes, if it were Vietnamese?.. Canadian?..or Utah Mormons? that were poisoning streams, destroying forests, bringing the feds to your doorstep??
No??..

yoou aren't a racist you're a realist..
..and, for "MY" part, the mexicans haven't done me a single favor, that I can think of, in the marijuanna department, either.

You should be thankful to Mexicans for spreading MJ around the US,

brown brick ?? why should anyone "thank" them for that?..

 

[snuggles]

I agree with you all, although I think we need to give nikimadritista a break he is Bulgarian and might not have understood what was really being said...IMO he's a nice guy I think he just misunderstood what was being said. Cause Ettesun is definitely not racist I think we all know that.

 

[nikimadritista]

??? Didn't mean to freak you out people...
I was pretty messed up when I wrote my reply as well...
I am sorry... didn't mean to start a riot
Light another

 

[Ettesun]

:heart: Thanks Niki... and I mean that. Bulgaria...??? Wow... We American women speak our minds, don't we... are you in the states now???
Surely don't mean to come across wrong. There may be a little lost in translation... I appreciate the apology and a big HUG to you. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((*)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
eace: