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Once again, you clearly have no interest, so why even bother posting in here?
 
AluminumMonster said:
So you put up or shut up huh?? Well duck I think its time to shut up and read man.

For just one grow:rofl: Even scientific experiments need a independent lab to duplicate the results of the experiment before they even print their papers.

You guys are funny:)

AM got a question for you do you use LEDS?
 
He didn't create the light... he picked his bulb colors and lens angles which anyone can do. $1900 is astronomical? I've spent well over 5k on my rooms just to run hids. How is this labor intensive? No ducting, less worry over r/h, less feeding, less worry about temps ya don't have to change out bulbs.. come on man you're not makin sense here.
 
AluminumMonster said:
Once again, you clearly have no interest, so why even bother posting in here?

Well if this was your thread I would not be posting but I believe the OP asked what was a better light?

Why is it that theres big arguments over CFL's and HID's but not a mention of LED lighting.

And I gave him my opinion. If you don't like it go make your own thread on the merits of LEDS and I won't post in it. I will just sit back and laugh and do my :bong1: of hps buds:rofl:
 
Nope but I know ppl who do...lol. c'mon man ya can't talk me out of this, so ya might as well give up now;)
 
come on man you're not makin sense here.

Did he not have to do major LST?

So you have no personal experience with leds?
 
That's why I asked the ppl with the experience to stop on by;)

Your pointless banter is well... pointless. It has been done the proof will be posted and it can be done by anyone with half a brain. End of story:)
 
AluminumMonster said:
That's why I asked the ppl with the experience to stop on by;)

Your pointless banter is well... pointless. It has been done the proof will be posted and it can be done by anyone with half a brain. End of story:)

I don't see you doing it:rofl:
 
Not yet... when ya have a wife ya kinda have to discuss a $1900 purchase...
 
AluminumMonster said:
Not yet... when ya have a wife ya kinda have to discuss a $1900 purchase...


Lol...I hear ya on that. Gotta put that kind of purchase in front of the review board in my house as well.:)

I think everyone needs to smoke a bowl and relax. No reason for this to get personal. I for one am glad PJ came by and can shed some light on the current state of LED technology. He makes good points about taking things like not having to replace bulbs which brings down overall cost. If I had the cash I would be giving these a shot for sure. Jmo
 
Guys it was $1900 to replace 8 - 1000whps.... thats gotta be like 200sq feet... 8 1000s gotta cost $1500+.... $400 is not a
HUGE difference IMO...

Hammy talk to PJ it would prob be $300 for an LED unit for your 4x4...
 
JustAnotherAntMarching said:
Guys it was $1900 to replace 8 - 1000whps.... thats gotta be like 200sq feet... 8 1000s gotta cost $1500+.... $400 is not a
HUGE difference IMO...

Hammy talk to PJ it would prob be $300 for an LED unit for your 4x4...


I will talk with PJ for sure. Thanks.
 
JustAnotherAntMarching said:
NC your costs are def flawed bc power is no where near .04kw in most places... Its like .12 a kw here and the delivery cost is more then the power which makes its like .25Kw here... And you run $35 bulbs? since when??

In WA. We have the cheapest kilowatt rate anywhere. Average is .08 a kilowatt. Any land that is zoned "AG", agricultural, the max rate by law cannot exceed .04 a kilowatt.

I have always paid $35 per 1k. I have always bought by case of 12.

You should know me better than that son. I don't post info, I am not 100% sure on :)
 
PJ and my my, thanks for taking the time to post and put up pics.

PJ, I have some questions, I hope you will be around later. However, I have a very important engagement :giggle: --a wake-and-bake morning watching an early college football game at friends' house.
 
AluminumMonster said:
8- 1k plus hoods bulbs and hangers would run me almost $2500 here.

So how much for LED's to fill cover a 20x20 space? Same as what 8, 1k's would cover.
 
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