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Here's another plant I'm doing under the LEDs, Electric Haze. Sweet looking plant and can hardly wait to harvest. The temps are coming down during lights out so she is putting on alot of color.

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I didn't read the whole thread and don't know if this is in here but this is the chart of the light arrangement. My Apollo 6 has 6 of these per light and is PJ's design which he got the company to put together. (PJ doesn't benefit from this other than getting a light with the parameters he wants). As you can see, they have specific "temps" rather than color. It is these temps that researchers have determined the plants use for specific needs and is why PJ made his request to the company. EDIT: I tried to delete the chart per PJ's request. It was a wrong chart as it was too, hot and has been changed. For some reason I can't delete it.

One other point I would like to make about running the LEDs is that, each light can be adjusted for it own plant dependant on how much it stretches. Also, sometimes I don't have a plant ready to go in to replace the one coming out and can switch that particular light off....less waste!
 

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Looks nice niteshft. How long in flower? What medium are you in?
 
Thanks for chiming in and providing that info niteshft. nice looking lady you got there.
 
Im so glad ppl are having success, we all need this to work eventually cause heat is the biggest issue, it is for me anyways, and LEDS will help that alot, keep it up guys, im not ready to switch yet but when i am i know what i plan to look into, if you can sift through all the shiz in this thread there is some great info.
 
dman1234 said:
Im so glad ppl are having success, we all need this to work eventually cause heat is the biggest issue, it is for me anyways, and LEDS will help that alot, keep it up guys, im not ready to switch yet but when i am i know what i plan to look into, if you can sift through all the shiz in this thread there is some great info.

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Heat is why I don't grow in the Summer. Any of us that have tried to fight the Summer heat know it's no fun and unless you have some coin to spend on an AC solution it seems to always be a losing battle.
Hey I am pretty skeptical and have almost gone down the LED route before. I was going to get another 600w HPS but I am going to give LED a shot instead. Being able to grow in the Summer would be pretty cool in and of itself, but it would also give me more options in the Fall/Winter as well.
 
Rosebud said:
Looks nice niteshft. How long in flower? What medium are you in?

Thanks Rose and nice to see you again, by the way!

She's been in flower for 60 days but I may be mistaken on the strain. It was one of those things where the lable got washed under the soil during watering and lost during repotting. Someone commented they didn't think it fit the flower time for her....she looks too, close to finish for it to be the Electric Haze. I don't care, she looks nice no matter what it is, I just hope it smokes nice.

I run a 50/50 mix of Ocean Forest and ProMix and have been having great results with it. It holds water very well and gives me more free time and the plants seem to love it.
 
Whatever she is Niteshift, she sure looks tasty. Congrats on a nice fat plant.
 
today is 54 days of (COMBINED) flower time (T-5) then LED for this girl..
With my hand held scope trichs are clear/cloudy..

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Pretty colors on her my my....kinda psychedelic. Like a multi headed snake.
 
I purchased a watt miser today to check what the LEDs were pulling comparred to the 1000w HPS they are replacing. I calculated the wattage per light by simply counting the LEDs X wattage (3 watt each) = 270 watts per unit. I have 6 Apollo 6's so that's a total of 1620 watts. Ha-ha...no wonder my plants are doing so well, I probably could've gotten by with the Apollo 4's. The LEDs put out alot more of the "useable" spectrum to the plant so the wattage doesn't need to be as high as HIDs. I plan to disconnect two of the fixtures in each unit and see how the plants respond.

Well, back to the watt mizer. Altho the fixture has 270 watts worth of bulbs it is only pulling 194 watts at the outlet. With all 6 units plugged in, that then drew a total of 1128 watts, rather then the calculated 1620 watts. Putting 2 fixtures in each unit out of service will reduce that by one third.

Hope that helps!
 
niteshft said:
I purchased a watt miser today to check what the LEDs were pulling comparred to the 1000w HPS they are replacing. I calculated the wattage per light by simply counting the LEDs X wattage (3 watt each) = 270 watts per unit. I have 6 Apollo 6's so that's a total of 1620 watts. Ha-ha...no wonder my plants are doing so well, I probably could've gotten by with the Apollo 4's. The LEDs put out alot more of the "useable" spectrum to the plant so the wattage doesn't need to be as high as HIDs. I plan to disconnect two of the fixtures in each unit and see how the plants respond.

Well, back to the watt mizer. Altho the fixture has 270 watts worth of bulbs it is only pulling 194 watts at the outlet. With all 6 units plugged in, that then drew a total of 1128 watts, rather then the calculated 1620 watts. Putting 2 fixtures in each unit out of service will reduce that by one third.

Hope that helps!


This is what I have a problem with, the Apollo 6 claims it will replace a 400 hps all day. hxxp://www.genericled.com/shop/apollo-6/

A single apollo 10 replaces a 1000 watt hxxp://www.genericled.com/shop/apollo-10/, that should be the same as 6000 watts in PJ's grow.

We should be seeing results at least twice as good, while there is no question they are growing extremely well its just not matching the manufactures claims.
Therefore the cost savings are negligible with only saving on cooling and bulbs.
 
I thought Lumens is what grew weed,,not watts.
 
WeedHopper said:
I thought Lumens is what grew weed,,not watts.

With that in mind, what are the lumen comparisons? I'd guess the HPS throws a lot more, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised?
 
I think you also have to take into account that LED's don't waste power on the unusable spectrum of light like a HPS does.
 
I'm just not buyin' it man. Is it me, or do those plants not look good at all??
Not tryin' to knock your grow my my, but that don't look good to me. Sure, the plant lived and produced herb, but there is no way that out performed a 1000 hid.
does anyone growing with LED's have huge buds? Until I see something equal at least to what an HID will produce, I think folks are tryinn' to reinvent the wheel.

I looked at the photo's of the buds, and they seem quite small compared to HID grown nugs. Now, I am sure that the herb is good, and they look triched out, but it's about weight and quality imo.

I wanna see a nug like this grown under LED's, and then I will eat my words.

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As far as the Power consumption, "You get what you pay for" comes to mind.
 
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