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All the pro lifers need to see this. Go Bernie. What a great hopeful message for our country. This is a tear jerker, if you are me. glad I watched it, thanks Hammy.
 
Rosebud said:
All the pro lifers need to see this. Go Bernie. What a great hopeful message for our country. This is a tear jerker, if you are me. glad I watched it, thanks Hammy.
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There's a bunch of finger pointing when it comes to prolife vs prochoice............. truly glad I never had to decide....... I'm not a fence sitter when it comes to abortion....... I'd say I believe what most of the population believes......... A woman usually finds she is pregnant within the first month or two......... and she should decide during the first trimester if she is going to end the pregnancy........ after the first 3 months I'd be against almost any abortion except life and death circumstances of the mother.......... however I do reserve the right to change my beliefs based on new medical discoveries .
 
Glad I didn't have to do that either G13, but sure glad some of my friends could do it some safe and some not so safe.
 
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I'm not a fence sitter when it comes to abortion....... I'd say I believe what most of the population believes......... A woman usually finds she is pregnant within the first month or two......... and she should decide during the first trimester if she is going to end the pregnancy........ after the first 3 months I'd be against almost any abortion except life and death circumstances of the mother.
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See G13 I knew if I hung around long enough I would find some common ground we share. I love the fact that we all have very diverse political ideologies and sometimes it is hard to discuss them without passion and fervor. I sometimes do not agree with what is been said in this thread, I fought for my life to make sure we could have these open discussions. America is not as great as it once was, yet we are not too far gone to try and find common ground for all Americans, so that each has a voice in their government. It makes my sacrifices worthwhile to see this open discussion as "we the people" are trying to all do what we think is best for our country. I begrudge no one, nor do I ever get angry if someone doesn't hold the same beliefs I do.....funny thing about beliefs...they simply are not fact, they are what we filter through and hold against our own experiences. Sadly people get beliefs - which are personal - confused with facts - that are quantifiable and can be measured time and again with the same end result. I implore you, please take it from a vet who held is childhood friend since 4th grade, while he slowly bled out in southern Iraq, don't let this issue divide us, let us weigh in and have a lively discussion, but please don't be offended or take personal what somebody else believes, Robby Keiser's memory would be tarnished, because he, like me believes that the rights and privileges we fought for should never be diminished by anyone....my constitution tells me you have the right to stand on the corner and scream at the top of your lungs your beliefs, and with that in mind please don't circumvent my right to do the same.
 
Kraven said:
See G13 I knew if I hung around long enough I would find some common ground we share. I love the fact that we all have very diverse political ideologies and sometimes it is hard to discuss them without passion and fervor. I sometimes do not agree with what is been said in this thread, I fought for my life to make sure we could have these open discussions. America is not as great as it once was, yet we are not too far gone to try and find common ground for all Americans, so that each has a voice in their government. It makes my sacrifices worthwhile to see this open discussion as "we the people" are trying to all do what we think is best for our country. I begrudge no one, nor do I ever get angry if someone doesn't hold the same beliefs I do.....funny thing about beliefs...they simply are not fact, they are what we filter through and hold against our own experiences. Sadly people get beliefs - which are personal - confused with facts - that are quantifiable and can be measured time and again with the same end result. I implore you, please take it from a vet who held is childhood friend since 4th grade, while he slowly bled out in southern Iraq, don't let this issue divide us, let us weigh in and have a lively discussion, but please don't be offended or take personal what somebody else believes, Robby Keiser's memory would be tarnished, because he, like me believes that the rights and privileges we fought for should never be diminished by anyone....my constitution tells me you have the right to stand on the corner and scream at the top of your lungs your beliefs, and with that in mind please don't circumvent my right to do the same.
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An honest debate about politics and core beliefs has to include all points of view without including the personal name calling and insults........ my postings here are not always about what I believe but to bring different points of views to the discussions........ if we all thought the same this would be a boring thread....... I'm proud the way this thread has gone........ yes I'm sure we've all been pissed about something we saw here...... but...... if you kept up with most of this thread...... you have a better understanding about how all sides feel........ and you definitely know more about what is going on than the average joe in America.

BTW....... I think it speaks loudly of Hillary that none of us really want her as a president.
 
Yes, G13, and I even like hillary, but i don't want 4 more years of bashing the presidency. I don't want to go thru that again. People don't trust her, if that is a result of the media or of actual facts, i am not sure.

I think the media has been seen truthfully this cycle. They ran every trump speech for the money it brought. They need to look at their part in this race. It needs to change. Kasich never got any media. He is the only one with a brain as far as I can see on that side, but we never got to hear from him. his polite opinions were not what this country demanded... This has been an interesting thread. thank you.
 
Good to see my friends love each other no matter what. We all have opinions,,,,but most importantly, ,we care about each other enough,,to respect our friends opinions for what they are,,,Opinions. We are all in this together no matter who wins the Election, ,,we must pull together as Americans and stop bashing our Leader. Most all these other Countries and the freaking Islamic Extremist thrive on our division,,,and they love seeing us fight each other.
I will support whom ever becomes my President ,,,no matter if they were my choice or not.
 
well, a little violent for me...but wow, some one did a lot of work on that. Amazing that someone would do that... must be a big fan.

Megan Kelly? lol
 
Not that was funny. Awesome job of editing. Kool,,thanks for sharing Bro.
 
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