donald and mj

[Rosebud]

Socialism= medicare and social security

 

[Grower13]

Socialism= medicare and social security

Yes...... and I should be able to opt out of both....... our govt has no right to impose a tax on both of those on me personally and my corporations.

 

[Rosebud]

talk to me when you are in your sixties, you can opt out, my dad did, my rich gf in cali did, opt out, but don't take it away form me please. I got rso to make.

 

[WeedHopper]

Hey,,,wait a minute G13,,,now your screwing me. I have been paying for those benifits all my life. I dont care what ya call it,,,my old *** is gonna need it. £¥₩€€==€£%=&:"!*=#^** Damnt,,,made me lose my temper. Lol
Im voting for Bernie, ,,Yehaaaaaaaaa

 

[Grower13]

talk to me when you are in your sixties, you can opt out, my dad did, my rich gf in cali did, opt out, but don't take it away form me please. I got rso to make.

At 18 trillion in debt and climbing fast......... I think anybody younger than 60 may need a backup plan....... a move more toward socialism will only speed up our bankruptcy......... nothing is free no matter how you try to say it is........ what happens when the govt can't borrow any more money?........ who will the govt decide is the ones who gets their payments cut?........ the elderly will be the easiest....... they generally want riot and burn down cities.

 

[WeedHopper]

My **** aint free,,,i been paying for it all my life and im 60. Food stamps and such is one thing,,,and it is definitely being abused by a bunch of lazy *** ppl,,,but SS is not free nor do you get it if you haven't payed in. My Wife gets very little SS because she has been a Housewife most our marriage of 30yrs,,,and didnt pay much toward SS. And Medicare helps the Elderly who cant afford Health insurance. Im all for taking care of our Elders.

Truth is this is all for not,,,because Bernie doesnt stand a chance in hell of winning. Nither does Cruz or Lying *** Hillary
The RASIEST Bigot Trump is gonna win,,,like it or not..

 

[Grower13]

My **** aint free,,,i been paying for it all my life and im 60. Food stamps and such is one thing,,,and it is definitely being abused by a bunch of lazy *** ppl,,,but SS is not free nor do you get it if you haven't payed in. My Wife gets very little SS because she has been a Housewife most our marriage of 30yrs,,,and didnt pay much toward SS. And Medicare helps the Elderly who cant afford Health insurance. Im all for taking care of our Elders.

When a worker files for retirement benefits, the worker's spouse may be eligible for a benefit based on the worker's earnings. Another requirement is that the spouse must be at least age 62 or have a qualifying child in her/his care. By a qualifying child, we mean a child who is under age 16 or who receives Social Security disability benefits.
The spousal benefit can be as much as half of the worker's "primary insurance amount," depending on the spouse's age at retirement. If the spouse begins receiving benefits before "normal (or full) retirement age," the spouse will receive a reduced benefit. However, if a spouse is caring for a qualifying child, the spousal benefit is not reduced.
If a spouse is eligible for a retirement benefit based on his or her own earnings, and if that benefit is higher than the spousal benefit, then we pay the retirement benefit. Otherwise we pay the spousal benefit.
A spouse can choose to retire as early as age 62, but doing so may result in a benefit as little as 32.5 percent of the worker's primary insurance amount. A spousal benefit is reduced 25/36 of one percent for each month before normal retirement age, up to 36 months. If the number of months exceeds 36, then the benefit is further reduced 5/12 of one percent per month.

For a spouse who is not entitled to benefits on his or her own earnings record, this reduction factor is applied to the base spousal benefit, which is 50 percent of the worker's primary insurance amount. For example, if the worker's primary insurance amount is $1,600 and the worker's spouse chooses to begin receiving benefits 36 months before his or her normal retirement age, we first take 50 percent of $1,600 to get an $800 base spousal benefit. Then we compute the reduction factor, which is 36 times 25/36 of one percent, or 25 percent. Applying a 25 percent reduction to the $800 amount gives a spousal benefit of $600. Thus, in this case, the final spousal benefit is 37.5 percent of the primary insurance amount.

 

[Grower13]

In the past three decades, the number of Americans who are on disability has skyrocketed. The rise has come even as medical advances have allowed many more people to remain on the job, and new laws have banned workplace discrimination against the disabled. Every month, 14 million people now get a disability check from the government.

The federal government spends more money each year on cash payments for disabled former workers than it spends on food stamps and welfare combined. Yet people relying on disability payments are often overlooked in discussions of the social safety net. The vast majority of people on federal disability do not work.[1] Yet because they are not technically part of the labor force, they are not counted among the unemployed.

 

[Grower13]

In Hale County, Alabama, nearly 1 in 4 working-age adults is on disability.[2] On the day government checks come in every month, banks stay open late, Main Street fills up with cars, and anybody looking to unload an old TV or armchair has a yard sale.

Sonny Ryan, a retired judge in town, didn't hear disability cases in his courtroom. But the subject came up often. He described one exchange he had with a man who was on disability but looked healthy.

"Just out of curiosity, what is your disability?" the judge asked from the bench.
"I have high blood pressure," the man said.
"So do I," the judge said. "What else?"
"I have diabetes."
"So do I."

There's no diagnosis called disability. You don't go to the doctor and the doctor says, "We've run the tests and it looks like you have disability." It's squishy enough that you can end up with one person with high blood pressure who is labeled disabled and another who is not.

 

[Grower13]

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[umbra]

So 13, I have epilepsy. I do not collect disability, as a matter of FACT, I am a research scientist. But there are people who do have epilepsy had who do collect disability and do you know what the difference is? I do, and so do doctors, whether you do or not, I couldn't care.

 

[WeedHopper]

Wouldnt know i aint dead or disabled so my Wife gets what she paid in from working. I will retire when i cant walk anymore. Lol
There are always gonna be ppl taking advantage of something, ,,but that doesnt mean everybody else should suffer or lose things they need and dont abuse.

 

[Grower13]

Wouldnt know i aint dead or disabled so my Wife gets what she paid in from working. I will retire when i cant walk anymore. Lol
There are always gonna be ppl taking advantage of something, ,,but that doesnt mean everybody else should suffer or lose things they need and dont abuse.

I think when your of age to retire WH........ your wife can then draw based on your income.

 

[WeedHopper]

Thats news to me! So when i retire and start to get my SS,,,,my Wifes SS check will be more because i retired? Huh?
********. Never heard of such a thing. My Wifes draws according to what she payed in,,,UNLESS I DIE,,,then she can get more money...Again i aint dead yet,,,Bro. And stop giving my Wife ideas. Lol

 

[Grower13]

Thats news to me! So when i retire and start to get my SS,,,,my Wifes SS check will be more because i retired? Huh?

I think so....... I'm looking for you now.

 

[WeedHopper]

Kool,,,cause that would be news to me,,,Good news,,,but news. Lol

 

[Grower13]

Note: If you are divorced, you may still be able to get benefits on your ex-spouse's record. For information on the requirements for Divorced Spouse's Benefits, read "


maybe a divorce is in order WH

What is the eligibility for Social Security spouse’s benefits and my own retirement benefits?


If you have not worked or do not have enough Social Security credits to qualify for your own Social Security benefits, you may be able to receive spouse’s benefits.

To qualify for spouse’s benefits, you must be:
•At least 62 years of age; or
•Any age and caring for a child entitled to receive benefits on your spouse’s record who is younger than age 16 or disabled.

If you are eligible for both your own retirement benefits and for benefits as a spouse, we always pay your own benefits first. If your benefits as a spouse are higher than your own retirement benefits, you will get a combination of benefits equaling the higher spouse benefit.

If you choose to begin receiving spouse’s benefits before you reach full retirement age, your benefit amount will be reduced and will not be increased when you reach full retirement age.

Here is an example:

Mary Ann qualifies for a retirement benefit of $250 and a spouse’s benefit of $400. At her full retirement age, she will receive her own $250 retirement benefit, and we will add $150 from her spouse’s benefit, for a total of $400. If she takes her retirement benefit before her full retirement age, both amounts will be reduced.

If you wait until you reach full retirement age to apply for spouse’s benefits, you will receive the maximum benefit, which is up to half of the amount your spouse is entitled to receive at full retirement age. If you have reached full retirement age and you are eligible for a spouse’s benefit and your own retirement benefit, you may have options to increase your own retirement benefit amount.

If you are at least 62 years of age and you wish to apply for retirement or spouse’s benefits, you can use our online retirement application to apply for one or both benefits.

If you are divorced

If you are divorced and your marriage lasted at least 10 years, you may be able to get benefits on your former spouse’s record.

See If You Are Divorced for more information.

 

[WeedHopper]

Your funny. Well crap ya had me going,,thought maybe my old broke *** might catch a little break with some extra income. Damnt where's Bernie whe n i need him. Lol

 

[Grower13]

Your funny. Well crap ya had me going,,thought maybe my old broke *** might catch a little break with some extra income. Damnt where's Bernie whe n i need him. Lol

I'm pretty sure if she is getting SSI on her own employment record now she will be able to switch to draw on yours when you retire.......

 

[Grower13]

My mom and dad have been divorced for 35 years....... my dad has remarried a few times since....... my mom gets her SSI based on what my dad earned because she never remarried.